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JWBS wrote:
Yes, how wonderful - I get a whole new army of Necrons with my new Space Marines. Two armies - two for the price of two - because to get the units for my army I also need to buy the units for another army. Please do this again GW.

You're really going to complain about a starterbox having two armies? Or any GW big box having two armies? It's not hard to just get what you want.

Once the details are known, 5 seconds later the box contents will be split up and selling/sold on places like eBay. One would have no trouble selling whatever bits they don't want.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Yes, how wonderful - I get a whole new army of Necrons with my new Space Marines. Two armies - two for the price of two - because to get the units for my army I also need to buy the units for another army. Please do this again GW.

You're really going to complain about a starterbox having two armies? Or any GW big box having two armies? It's not hard to just get what you want.

I thought it would be Tneva that was going to say this, but I might be misremembering. Is it you that says this? That this is an ok, nay good, nay great thing and how dare I question it?
Anyway, the answer is yes, the fact that in order to buy Ghazghkul I have to either wait (more than one minute, and up to an infinite number of years, we don't know which), or buy Ghazghkul + Ragnar + 10 Primaris +50 orks, if I want to own just Ghazghkul, is indeed irritating to me.

JWBS wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Yes, how wonderful - I get a whole new army of Necrons with my new Space Marines. Two armies - two for the price of two - because to get the units for my army I also need to buy the units for another army. Please do this again GW.

You're really going to complain about a starterbox having two armies? Or any GW big box having two armies? It's not hard to just get what you want.

I thought it would be Tneva that was going to say this, but I might be misremembering. Is it you that says this? That this is an ok, nay good, nay great thing and how dare I question it?
Anyway, the answer is yes, the fact that in order to buy Ghazghkul I have to either wait (more than one minute, and up to an infinite number of years, we don't know which), or buy Ghazghkul + Ragnar + 10 Primaris +50 orks, if I want to own just Ghazghkul, is indeed irritating to me.

Well just find someone selling Ghaz because they just wanted Ragnar. I'm sure its going for what GW will sell him for as a solo model which will be probably $115-$130 US.

Edit: people on ebay are selling him for wayyyyy less than what GW is going to. You should get on that before his price skyrockets.

@ everyone ho said - yeah I meant flayed ones & <insert unit>

Not a necron player and for some reason assumed deathmarks were finecast like flayed ones because you dont see them often. My bad yo..

I think we might see silent king on some sort of new barge thing/centre piece IK power level model.

Plus some big melee monstrous infantry it seems.

Some you-tubers have been rumouring new destroyer unit and flayed ones. So maybe more CC orientated units.

If the silent king is returning, It worryingly brings Big E becoming a model closer into realms of possibility. And I'm unsure how I feel about that.

I would love a Necron V Eldar themed box and a new edition with updated aspect warriors personally

 BrotherGecko wrote:

JWBS wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Yes, how wonderful - I get a whole new army of Necrons with my new Space Marines. Two armies - two for the price of two - because to get the units for my army I also need to buy the units for another army. Please do this again GW.

You're really going to complain about a starterbox having two armies? Or any GW big box having two armies? It's not hard to just get what you want.

I thought it would be Tneva that was going to say this, but I might be misremembering. Is it you that says this? That this is an ok, nay good, nay great thing and how dare I question it?
Anyway, the answer is yes, the fact that in order to buy Ghazghkul I have to either wait (more than one minute, and up to an infinite number of years, we don't know which), or buy Ghazghkul + Ragnar + 10 Primaris +50 orks, if I want to own just Ghazghkul, is indeed irritating to me.

Well just find someone selling Ghaz because they just wanted Ragnar. I'm sure its going for what GW will sell him for as a solo model which will be probably $115-$130 US.

Edit: people on ebay are selling him for wayyyyy less than what GW is going to. You should get on that before his price skyrockets.

that's doubtful, REALLLY doubtful. Ghaz is roughly the size of Gulliman and Abaddon who are about 60 USDs

We both know relative size has nothing to do with GW prices. Also he is only high wise about the size of the other two but mass he is bigger. I'd be shocked if he was cheaper than $75.

Which would still make the ebay rates cheaper until his solo release.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
We both know relative size has nothing to do with GW prices. Also he is only high wise about the size of the other two but mass he is bigger. I'd be shocked if he was cheaper than $75.

Which would still make the ebay rates cheaper until his solo release.

no but relative size and function TENDS to corroborate. Ghaz might be a little bit more but he's certainly not going to be deamon primarch priced

JWBS wrote:
Yes, how wonderful - I get a whole new army of Necrons with my new Space Marines. Two armies - two for the price of two - because to get the units for my army I also need to buy the units for another army. Please do this again GW.

Just wait 6 months and the models will be separated.


...Kids these days think they're entitled to what they want right this instant.


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 Ghaz wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
New Avatar of Khaine? The Emperor? What is this?

So that answers that. Thank you, wish they'd put that in the email they sent this morning instead of the blank image I shared...

 Togusa wrote:

So that answers that. Thank you, wish they'd put that in the email they sent this morning instead of the blank image I shared...

If you would have clicked on the 'Find Out More' button in the email you would have been linked to the Sunday Preview article on Warhammer Community which consists of more than just the Age of Sigmar Death Match.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

So that answers that. Thank you, wish they'd put that in the email they sent this morning instead of the blank image I shared...

If you would have clicked on the 'Find Out More' button in the email you would have been linked to the Sunday Preview article on Warhammer Community which consists of more than just the Age of Sigmar Death Match.

One click is fine. Two is too much.

BrianDavion wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
We both know relative size has nothing to do with GW prices. Also he is only high wise about the size of the other two but mass he is bigger. I'd be shocked if he was cheaper than $75.

Which would still make the ebay rates cheaper until his solo release.

no but relative size and function TENDS to corroborate. Ghaz might be a little bit more but he's certainly not going to be deamon primarch priced

He's also unlikely to be anything to do with this preview.

Let's stick to the topic, please.

 kodos wrote:

I can avoid it by ignoring the next edtion

Well duh. You can also avoid just buying new codex. You can still play 2nd edition if you want.

However if you want to play with majority of players you will need to buy new edition rulebook and codexes. 8th ed will be rather sparse for you to find opponents.


And you can only play 40k sensibly casually. Even tournaments are only playable as casual. If you try to play 40k competively it breaks down. Hard.

What you seem to be mistaken is assuming tournament=competive, tournament!=casual. Casual tournaments are a thing and works lot better than competive. 40k breaks down competively hard. It's totally unsuited. It works as casual fun game. Spectacular self destruct the moment you try to apply it to competive style.



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 EnTyme wrote:

This is probably the most logical comment in this thread. GW wouldn't announce a new edition while they are still trying to sell campaign book for this edition. It would be bad marketing to announce that upcoming releases are about to be obsolete.

How on earth supplement that will be 100% usable in 9th ed would be obsolete? That doesn't make ANY sense.

tneva82 wrote:

 kodos wrote:

I can avoid it by ignoring the next edtion

Well duh. You can also avoid just buying new codex. You can still play 2nd edition if you want.
However if you want to play with majority of players you will need to buy new edition rulebook and codexes. 8th ed will be rather sparse for you to find opponents..

exactly, if I want to go to tournaments/events I need the new rules
if I just want to play with friends or the local group, I can do what I want (and yes, there is a group playing 2nd Edi 40k, as well as a group playing 5th Edition)

there is nothing that forces me to buy any new rules except the need to visit an event hence why the only reason to play 8th Edi 40k at the moment are tournaments

What you seem to be mistaken is assuming tournament=competive, tournament!=casual

never said that
I met more casual players on tournaments than WAAC guys, while in pick up games it was the other way around

but going to a tournament means that people play to win, using a set of rules agreed before and there is no argument about it.

tneva82 wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:

This is probably the most logical comment in this thread. GW wouldn't announce a new edition while they are still trying to sell campaign book for this edition. It would be bad marketing to announce that upcoming releases are about to be obsolete.

How on earth supplement that will be 100% usable in 9th ed would be obsolete? That doesn't make ANY sense.

how do you know that it will be useable?
would be the first campaign book that carry over to the next edition

it is more likley that those books are obsolete than the opposite

Original Black Crusade could be played right up to 8th Ed, as the core rules of the game didn’t really have more than tidy ups?

 BrotherGecko wrote:

JWBS wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Yes, how wonderful - I get a whole new army of Necrons with my new Space Marines. Two armies - two for the price of two - because to get the units for my army I also need to buy the units for another army. Please do this again GW.

You're really going to complain about a starterbox having two armies? Or any GW big box having two armies? It's not hard to just get what you want.

I thought it would be Tneva that was going to say this, but I might be misremembering. Is it you that says this? That this is an ok, nay good, nay great thing and how dare I question it?
Anyway, the answer is yes, the fact that in order to buy Ghazghkul I have to either wait (more than one minute, and up to an infinite number of years, we don't know which), or buy Ghazghkul + Ragnar + 10 Primaris +50 orks, if I want to own just Ghazghkul, is indeed irritating to me.

Well just find someone selling Ghaz because they just wanted Ragnar. I'm sure its going for what GW will sell him for as a solo model which will be probably $115-$130 US.

Edit: people on ebay are selling him for wayyyyy less than what GW is going to. You should get on that before his price skyrockets.

Hell yeah, I got him for £35. I'm expecting 40-50 from gee dubs in future.

breaking up starter boxes can be a lucrative exercise too. I bought tooth and claw, kept the models I wanted, and still made my money back plus profit by selling the stuff I didnt want.

I'm hoping for world eaters vs emperors children in a box set. I'm calling it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Yes, how wonderful - I get a whole new army of Necrons with my new Space Marines. Two armies - two for the price of two - because to get the units for my army I also need to buy the units for another army. Please do this again GW.

You're really going to complain about a starterbox having two armies? Or any GW big box having two armies? It's not hard to just get what you want.

Back in my day, we used to split these boxes. Or even two people would buy one each and trade the unwanted force to the other person. It's so disappointing that GW apparently made it enforcably illegal to do so, worldwide.

Apparently.

Funniest part about this is comparing the Ragnar vs. Ghaz box to a starter kit. They are not meant for the same demographic as such nor do they fill the same purpose.

 Sherrypie wrote:
Funniest part about this is comparing the Ragnar vs. Ghaz box to a starter kit. They are not meant for the same demographic as such nor do they fill the same purpose.

I think rganar and Ghaz first got mentioned at the possiability of the silent king being in a similer kit and no new starter set coming

 Sherrypie wrote:
Funniest part about this is comparing the Ragnar vs. Ghaz box to a starter kit. They are not meant for the same demographic as such nor do they fill the same purpose.

No, the funniest bit about it is that people were told to drop it and yet haven't.

Just because the mod note was not coloured does not mean one can just ignore it.

 ingtaer wrote:

 Sherrypie wrote:
Funniest part about this is comparing the Ragnar vs. Ghaz box to a starter kit. They are not meant for the same demographic as such nor do they fill the same purpose.

No, the funniest bit about it is that people were told to drop it and yet haven't.

Just because the mod note was not coloured does not mean one can just ignore it.

Given the trains of conversation are stemming from what people are expecting to see in the reveal and related rumours, which is deemed off topic, it's impossible for on-topic conversation since we can't discuss the reveals actual contents. Might be wise to lock it until it happens?

Dudeface wrote:

 ingtaer wrote:

 Sherrypie wrote:
Funniest part about this is comparing the Ragnar vs. Ghaz box to a starter kit. They are not meant for the same demographic as such nor do they fill the same purpose.

No, the funniest bit about it is that people were told to drop it and yet haven't.

Just because the mod note was not coloured does not mean one can just ignore it.

Given the trains of conversation are stemming from what people are expecting to see in the reveal and related rumours, which is deemed off topic, it's impossible for on-topic conversation since we can't discuss the reveals actual contents. Might be wise to lock it until it happens?

The speculation is cool, arguing about the price of Ghaz or having digs at people is not.

 Azazelx wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

JWBS wrote:
Yes, how wonderful - I get a whole new army of Necrons with my new Space Marines. Two armies - two for the price of two - because to get the units for my army I also need to buy the units for another army. Please do this again GW.

You're really going to complain about a starterbox having two armies? Or any GW big box having two armies? It's not hard to just get what you want.

Back in my day, we used to split these boxes. Or even two people would buy one each and trade the unwanted force to the other person. It's so disappointing that GW apparently made it enforcably illegal to do so, worldwide.

Apparently.

Hows that?

They.....they haven’t?

What they have clamped down on are FLGS etc splitting boxes.

Essentially, if GW provides a Start Collecting set, the FLGS/Indie is in breach of contract if they then open that box, and sell on the constituent parts.

But as for ‘well, let’s buy them at 12pm, head to the pub and then swap the bits’ isn’t ‘illegal’. Once the end user has the product, they can do as they wish.

I’m pretty sure Azazelx was being sarcastic, there.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They.....they haven’t?

What they have clamped down on are FLGS etc splitting boxes.

Essentially, if GW provides a Start Collecting set, the FLGS/Indie is in breach of contract if they then open that box, and sell on the constituent parts.

But as for ‘well, let’s buy them at 12pm, head to the pub and then swap the bits’ isn’t ‘illegal’. Once the end user has the product, they can do as they wish.

Has FLGS's been doing that? All splitting I know are players splitting themselves. That's standard and GW literally cannot stop that. People can do with what they have bought what they want. GW has no legal way of saying "you cant' give those to others for money or models".

And anybody with access to post office can do that and get the half you want for cheaper than you would get them buying separately when GW releases then. So it's win for players as well. And how many people live in place where a) they can get GW models b) have zero access to post office?

GW used to allow stores to split box content, that was what kept the bits-stores running. At some stage GW decided they didn't want that happening any more and shut it down so trade stores buying from GW can't split up box content. It killed the bits stores in general and those that are left are higher priced for parts. Ok for one or two but once you want a halfdozen bits from a single box its cheaper to just get the box from GW/retail.

Maybe I missed something....but nobody has thought about the Big Faq we should have in April. Maybe the big news is the big faq
The "big news" can also be a wordplay like they do with the reveal of the new giants in AoS.

Bearblu wrote:
Maybe I missed something....but nobody has thought about the Big Faq we should have in April. Maybe the big news is the big faq
The "big news" can also be a wordplay like they do with the reveal of the new giants in AoS.

I fail to see how that ties into a video about the silent King however?

Completely forgot about the Spring FAQ update!

But, as others have said, I expect this mainly to be previews surrounding the PA books that have been delayed, potentially with news on the updated FW books as well.

On top of that, there may, or may not, be a new boxset released alongside one of the PA books (which we could reasonably expect to be necrons vs something).

Finally, I’d just expect pre-order dates for the PA books. There is a potential that they will release them all rapid fire, rather than risk their future release timetable crossing over with them.