'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd

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**endlesswaltz123**

DW aren't actually the chamber militant of the order xenos any longer, well that's the impression I attained from the 8th edition codex. Got retconned into them working 'closely' with the ordo xenos, but they do clash in combat at times over different ideals.

However, DW would suit necrons mainly because it is the DW that watch over the tomb worlds, they'd be the first to react to a neurone tomb world awakening.

Another counter point to that is the silent king is not awakening from a tomb world, it is coming from outside the galaxy.

TBH, it would just be cool if they did generic models for marines and did a established but less well known chapter as the paint scheme, like the death spectres or something.

**lord_blackfang**

PenitentJake wrote:

Deathwatch are the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Xenos, the wing of the Inquisition whose exclusive job is the destruction of aliens. As such, they are (supposed to be) the best at killing aliens. This is reflected in game by variable ammo, and strats that buff both offense and defense with each Xeno species in the game. No other chapter has that.

Now it's true that there aren't enough Deathwatch Marines to be a part of every battle against Xenos. DW tend to show up when other Imperial Forces are beginning to lose the battle, and they are often the ones who turn the tide.

And if you think about it, there's always a story to the release of each box, and it's usually framed as a high stakes Epic struggle. That's exactly the place where you would expect forces of last resort, such as the Deathwatch, to show up. And the fact that PA is seeing the release of Xenos Inquisitor and a Necron right before we expect the new box?

Well, does kinda make sense, right?

One could have made the exact same argument for every past boxed set and been wrong every time. It's not about what makes sense, it's about which two armies GW wants to push this month.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Didn’t DW once have bolt rounds which stopped Necrons phasing out?

**tneva82**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Sasori wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:
I'm struggling to understand where everyone got the idea that the Silent King will be released. I've seen the vid and I'm getting the vibes of something big, but my gut feeling is that it'll just be the proper announcement and overview of the new Szeras model, perhaps another infantry kit, possible even Pariahs, but not the Silent King.

Really? It's a video about the Silent King and him returning and you are wondering where people get the idea that he will be released?

It could be some totally different person who also led the Necrons and then exiled himself.

That would be pretty lame hinting at return of existing character with hints at him and then create totally new character out of thin air instead.

...then again that's why gw actually might do it.

**Dudeface**

Todays image is very... imperium

**Pyrosphere**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Didn’t DW once have bolt rounds which stopped Necrons phasing out?

DW has ammo that suppresses reanimation protocols.
Rules-wise it's a stratagem that nerfs the corresponding dice roll.

edit: Looked it up and the stratagem is explained by DW marines just keep shooting at already downed Necrons... =/

**Dudeface**

On 2nd thoughts, that could by a triarch talking with the sielnt king being the deity rather than an imperium quote.

**Fayric**

Angry marines?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’m thinking these quotes are part of a larger whole.

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Reckon the next will be along the lines of ‘but it’s all a big naughty fib’

Could still be a single speech?

**GaroRobe**

It looks like something Imperium people would say. But the closest I could find to "We are his sword" is the Ultramarine chant "Who is the Sword of the Emperor?" "The Ultramarines." But given everything they've gotten, I'd be shocked if it was anything specifically for them (stigma and favoritism aside).

**Aenar**

I'm convinced it is and it sounds very Black Templar-ish.

**Dysartes**

The second quote screams Inquisition to me, but the first and the third don't.

I'd lean towards them being quotes representing different groups - the first could be Necrons, specifically around the Silent King.

The second would, as I said above, be the Inquisition, but we already know about the Ordo Xenos Radical who i believe is due out alongside Pariah.

The third could be for a number of factions. It all depends on who "He" is in the context of the quote. Khorne, the Emperor, Khaine (or Ynnead), Vect, etc...

**Tastyfish**

I don't think I've see a Capital "His" in 40K without it being the Emperor.

**Bob Lorgar**

I dunno, it all seems to me like things you'd expect Ephrael Stern to say.

**Dudeface**

Tastyfish wrote:
I don't think I've see a Capital "His" in 40K without it being the Emperor.

I think this should change, I'd welcome a faction taking that spin on things.

Other obscure fluff references, the emperors swords were a space marine chapter who were founded on a necrom tomb world and subsequently wiped out when it awoke.

**Sentineil**

Could it be Guard related? The reference to the emperor as a God should exclude Marines.

That hopefully leaves Guard or Inquisition, and could tie in with the IG emperor's blade detachments.

**lord_blackfang**

Oh, ok. More imperium. Yawn. Maybe it'll be triple height Marines.

**Mr Morden**

Rooting for a new Becca Scott video

**The Newman**

zend wrote:
The Newman wrote:
Togusa wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Yes, how wonderful - I get a whole new army of Necrons with my new Space Marines. Two armies - two for the price of two - because to get the units for my army I also need to buy the units for another army. Please do this again GW.

Just wait 6 months and the models will be separated.

...Kids these days think they're entitled to what they want right this instant.

The Gravis Captain would like a word.

Dark Imperium is still in print.

Not sure why youd want that fugly model anyways, the Ancient is the only good SM exclusive in that box.

I vehemently disagree, but that's beside the point. The point is that Gravis Captain has been in a starter box but unavailable as a stand-alone purchase for considerably longer than six months, and ironically so has the Primaris Ancient.

**EnTyme**

Mr Morden wrote:
Rooting for a new Becca Scott video

I'm always down for a Becca Scott video. First you get to watch a charismatic, attractive red-head enthusiastically describe something, then you get to read neckbeards seething about a charismatic, attractive red-head enthusiastically describing something.

**Valkyrie**

Sasori wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:
I'm struggling to understand where everyone got the idea that the Silent King will be released. I've seen the vid and I'm getting the vibes of something big, but my gut feeling is that it'll just be the proper announcement and overview of the new Szeras model, perhaps another infantry kit, possible even Pariahs, but not the Silent King.

Really? It's a video about the Silent King and him returning and you are wondering where people get the idea that he will be released?

More in that, in my opinion, the Silent King is never explicitly mentioned. They use the term "king", but that could refer to any of the Necron dynasties, not necessarily the Silent King. That, and with the fact that this seems so completely out of the blue, I'm sceptical that they'd drop something like this so suddenly.

**Marshal Loss**

Valkyrie wrote:
Sasori wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:
I'm struggling to understand where everyone got the idea that the Silent King will be released. I've seen the vid and I'm getting the vibes of something big, but my gut feeling is that it'll just be the proper announcement and overview of the new Szeras model, perhaps another infantry kit, possible even Pariahs, but not the Silent King.

Really? It's a video about the Silent King and him returning and you are wondering where people get the idea that he will be released?

More in that, in my opinion, the Silent King is never explicitly mentioned. They use the term "king", but that could refer to any of the Necron dynasties, not necessarily the Silent King. That, and with the fact that this seems so completely out of the blue, I'm sceptical that they'd drop something like this so suddenly.

I mean, I'm not sure how anybody who knows anything about Necron lore can watch that video and not be absolutely certain that it is referring to the SK. They do everything they possibly can except mention him by name. It's the Silent King. Now the video may not mean he's coming back with a model, I'll grant you that - but it is most unequivocally not just a random Phaeron depicted as the subject.

And perhaps it is better to view this in the pre-virus context: the trailer we saw was meant to have been dropped in late March, meaning that there would have been a lot more time to mull over things before the big announcement.

**Mr Morden**

EnTyme wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
Rooting for a new Becca Scott video

I'm always down for a Becca Scott video. First you get to watch a charismatic, attractive red-head enthusiastically describe something, then you get to read neckbeards seething about a charismatic, attractive red-head enthusiastically describing something.

I know right - and she does explain them really well

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Mr Morden wrote:
Rooting for a new Becca Scott video

Dirty boy! It’ll stunt your growth and send you blind!

Anyways. I saw her first. Probably. I can’t actually prove that. But I think she is sweetly pretty, and I want to defend her.

**tneva82**

Valkyrie wrote:
Sasori wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:
I'm struggling to understand where everyone got the idea that the Silent King will be released. I've seen the vid and I'm getting the vibes of something big, but my gut feeling is that it'll just be the proper announcement and overview of the new Szeras model, perhaps another infantry kit, possible even Pariahs, but not the Silent King.

Really? It's a video about the Silent King and him returning and you are wondering where people get the idea that he will be released?

More in that, in my opinion, the Silent King is never explicitly mentioned. They use the term "king", but that could refer to any of the Necron dynasties, not necessarily the Silent King. That, and with the fact that this seems so completely out of the blue, I'm sceptical that they'd drop something like this so suddenly.

Teasers rarely mention stuff flat out. They are designed to pique interest. They don't give first teaser by naming him flat out.

Also it's not THAT sudden. There's been fluff mentions of him recently including january WD.

**AngryAngel80**

Could be Custodes as they haven't seen anything from all this yet. Though I'd love it if DW got a real book treatment I'm not about to get my hopes up however, it's marine in nature however I'd bet. Maybe more primaris models, makes sense with how they try and super over hype those model drops for Primaris.

**Sasori**

Valkyrie wrote:
Sasori wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:
I'm struggling to understand where everyone got the idea that the Silent King will be released. I've seen the vid and I'm getting the vibes of something big, but my gut feeling is that it'll just be the proper announcement and overview of the new Szeras model, perhaps another infantry kit, possible even Pariahs, but not the Silent King.

Really? It's a video about the Silent King and him returning and you are wondering where people get the idea that he will be released?

More in that, in my opinion, the Silent King is never explicitly mentioned. They use the term "king", but that could refer to any of the Necron dynasties, not necessarily the Silent King. That, and with the fact that this seems so completely out of the blue, I'm sceptical that they'd drop something like this so suddenly.

The rulers of Dynasties are called Phaerons, not Kings. So no, it would not really refer to any dynasty. Not to mention, there is no individual dynasty that gave the people immortality, the Silent King did.

The opening clip even has him sitting with his two advisors to form the Triarch.

You don't even need to have a deep understand of Necron lore to know this clip is clearly about the Silent King. At this point I have to think you are being intentionally obtuse about it.

**ZebioLizard2**

Valkyrie wrote:
Sasori wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:
I'm struggling to understand where everyone got the idea that the Silent King will be released. I've seen the vid and I'm getting the vibes of something big, but my gut feeling is that it'll just be the proper announcement and overview of the new Szeras model, perhaps another infantry kit, possible even Pariahs, but not the Silent King.

Really? It's a video about the Silent King and him returning and you are wondering where people get the idea that he will be released?

More in that, in my opinion, the Silent King is never explicitly mentioned. They use the term "king", but that could refer to any of the Necron dynasties, not necessarily the Silent King. That, and with the fact that this seems so completely out of the blue, I'm sceptical that they'd drop something like this so suddenly.

So the Necron shown in the vid has normal legs. Szeras does not.

GW has already shown off Szeras. There's no reason to double hype Szeras by hiding him, especially not as something that doesn't have any look, naming convenient or lore based theme.

**Mr Morden**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
Rooting for a new Becca Scott video

Dirty boy! It’ll stunt your growth and send you blind!

Anyways. I saw her first. Probably. I can’t actually prove that. But I think she is sweetly pretty, and I want to defend her.

They could give her her own weekly show on WTV

**Valkyrie**

Sasori wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:
Sasori wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:
I'm struggling to understand where everyone got the idea that the Silent King will be released. I've seen the vid and I'm getting the vibes of something big, but my gut feeling is that it'll just be the proper announcement and overview of the new Szeras model, perhaps another infantry kit, possible even Pariahs, but not the Silent King.

Really? It's a video about the Silent King and him returning and you are wondering where people get the idea that he will be released?

More in that, in my opinion, the Silent King is never explicitly mentioned. They use the term "king", but that could refer to any of the Necron dynasties, not necessarily the Silent King. That, and with the fact that this seems so completely out of the blue, I'm sceptical that they'd drop something like this so suddenly.

The rulers of Dynasties are called Phaerons, not Kings. So no, it would not really refer to any dynasty. Not to mention, there is no individual dynasty that gave the people immortality, the Silent King did.

The opening clip even has him sitting with his two advisors to form the Triarch.

You don't even need to have a deep understand of Necron lore to know this clip is clearly about the Silent King. At this point I have to think you are being intentionally obtuse about it.

Well guess you're mistaken. I'm not being intentionally obtuse, my knowledge of Necron fluff is limited and I was just a bit skeptical.