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2020/05/22 16:30:55
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2020/05/22 16:31:19
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Color me skeptical on any LotD codex being worth buying *cries in 6th edition*
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2020/05/22 16:32:23
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Man, if Legion of the Damned gets a Codex after they removed Skitarii and Scions with their own...I'll cry into my bacon and waffles tomorrow morning.
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2020/05/22 16:53:48
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Mighty Vampire Count
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A supplement with a few special rules would work fine for Legion of the Damned. Buts thats trueof ALL Marine Chapters
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page
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2020/05/22 17:02:27
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Mr Morden wrote:A supplement with a few special rules would work fine for Legion of the Damned.
Well, and a time machine. Because they were destroyed during Gathering Storm.
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2020/05/22 17:04:23
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Mr Morden wrote:A supplement with a few special rules would work fine for Legion of the Damned. Buts thats trueof ALL Marine Chapters
Well to be fair they have always had a giant slew of rules you can't really consolidate for. They ignore cover, have a 3++, AND Deep Strike (and I'm pretty sure they still have to arrive that way). I've been all for getting rid of bloat but they're a tough nut to crack.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2020/05/22 17:40:18
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:Man, if Legion of the Damned gets a Codex after they removed Skitarii and Scions with their own...I'll cry into my bacon and waffles tomorrow morning.
Skitarii do have their own codex, regardless of your continued bizzare trolling on the matter.
That their small number of auxiliary units happens to include the HQ section because they’ve yet to get around to giving an alpha primus rules outside of 30k is a strange anomaly, but doesn’t change that the tabletop faction is *overwhelmingly* tech guard.
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2020/05/22 17:58:11
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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changemod wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Man, if Legion of the Damned gets a Codex after they removed Skitarii and Scions with their own...I'll cry into my bacon and waffles tomorrow morning. Skitarii do have their own codex, regardless of your continued bizzare trolling on the matter.
They do not have their own Codex. They feature in a Codex. They had their own Codex, hence my statement of "after they removed" those two from their own. That their small number of auxiliary units happens to include the HQ section because they’ve yet to get around to giving an alpha primus rules outside of 30k is a strange anomaly, but doesn’t change that the tabletop faction is *overwhelmingly* tech guard.
"Small number of auxiliary units" is apparently code for: -Three different Techpriest variants(Dominus, Enginseer, Manipulus) plus two characters(Cawl and Daedolosus) -Two different Electropriest units -Two different Kataphron units -Kastelan Robots -Datasmiths -Knights and Armigers Huh. Why, it almost sounds like they rolled three books into one! If people can constantly whine about GW prices or anything, I can damn well bring up in my thread the fact that Skitarii lost their own Codex to get rolled into a combined book that could just as easily have been two separate ones or a more complete one with a simple frigging job that ensured Skitarii remained a viable solo army. Because they were a viable solo army, unlike the dumpsterfire that was Cult Mechanicus
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2020/05/22 17:58:44
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote: Mr Morden wrote:A supplement with a few special rules would work fine for Legion of the Damned. Buts thats trueof ALL Marine Chapters
Well to be fair they have always had a giant slew of rules you can't really consolidate for. They ignore cover, have a 3++, AND Deep Strike (and I'm pretty sure they still have to arrive that way). I've been all for getting rid of bloat but they're a tough nut to crack.
They a single entry in the Index and they certianly have less unique units than say Harlequins (who are still missing some of theirs) and would in fact be perfect for a WD dex.
Having their Chapter tactics be Flaming Projectiles (Ignore Cover) Aid Unlooked For (Deep Strike) and Unyeilding Spectres (Amour is invulnerable) worked there
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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2020/05/22 18:01:58
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Kanluwen wrote:changemod wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Man, if Legion of the Damned gets a Codex after they removed Skitarii and Scions with their own...I'll cry into my bacon and waffles tomorrow morning.
Skitarii do have their own codex, regardless of your continued bizzare trolling on the matter.
They do not have their own Codex. They feature in a Codex. They had their own Codex, hence my statement of "after they removed" those two from their own.
That their small number of auxiliary units happens to include the HQ section because they’ve yet to get around to giving an alpha primus rules outside of 30k is a strange anomaly, but doesn’t change that the tabletop faction is *overwhelmingly* tech guard.
"Small number of auxiliary units" is apparently code for:
-Three different Techpriest variants(Dominus, Enginseer, Manipulus) plus two characters(Cawl and Daedolosus)
-Two different Electropriest units
-Two different Kataphron units
-Kastelan Robots
-Datasmiths
-Knights and Armigers
Huh. Why, it almost sounds like they rolled three books into one!
If people can constantly whine about GW prices or anything, I can damn well bring up in my thread the fact that Skitarii lost their own Codex to get rolled into a combined book that could just as easily have been two separate ones or a more complete one with a simple frigging job that ensured Skitarii remained a viable solo army. Because they were a viable solo army, unlike the dumpsterfire that was Cult Mechanicus
So to clarify, you're upset your faction got rolled in with another who is thematically very similar from the same organisation. You gained options, you can still run your army the way you could before (hint, skitarii needed a bespoke force org to even field models) more or less and you're complaining you don't get to buy 2-3 books for the same units?
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2020/05/22 18:02:10
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:changemod wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Man, if Legion of the Damned gets a Codex after they removed Skitarii and Scions with their own...I'll cry into my bacon and waffles tomorrow morning.
Skitarii do have their own codex, regardless of your continued bizzare trolling on the matter.
They do not have their own Codex. They feature in a Codex. They had their own Codex, hence my statement of "after they removed" those two from their own.
That their small number of auxiliary units happens to include the HQ section because they’ve yet to get around to giving an alpha primus rules outside of 30k is a strange anomaly, but doesn’t change that the tabletop faction is *overwhelmingly* tech guard.
"Small number of auxiliary units" is apparently code for:
-Three different Techpriest variants(Dominus, Enginseer, Manipulus) plus two characters(Cawl and Daedolosus)
-Two different Electropriest units
-Two different Kataphron units
-Kastelan Robots
-Datasmiths
-Knights and Armigers
Huh. Why, it almost sounds like they rolled three books into one!
If people can constantly whine about GW prices or anything, I can damn well bring up in my thread the fact that Skitarii lost their own Codex to get rolled into a combined book that could just as easily have been two separate ones or a more complete one with a simple frigging job that ensured Skitarii remained a viable solo army. Because they were a viable solo army, unlike the dumpsterfire that was Cult Mechanicus
Gee, it’s almost like cult mechanicus was a small supplement following up the initial release or something. Automatically Appended Next Post: Dudeface wrote:So to clarify, you're upset your faction got rolled in with another who is thematically very similar from the same organisation. You gained options, you can still run your army the way you could before (hint, skitarii needed a bespoke force org to even field models) more or less and you're complaining you don't get to buy 2-3 books for the same units?
He’s been at this for a while, essentially instead of just asking for one or two skitarii specific characters like the rest of admech players, he wants the filthy taint of tech priests out of his pure unsullied skitarii book.
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2020/05/22 18:16:02
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Dudeface wrote: So to clarify, you're upset your faction got rolled in with another who is thematically very similar from the same organisation.
Yeah...no. That's the view that someone who was unfamiliar with the two factions would go for. I'm "upset" that my faction lost all of its flavor in response to the whining from Cult Mechanicus players who insisted that "iT nEeDs To Be CoMbInEd!!!1!" because their Canticles "didn't work otherwise". So to summarize: I don't get Doctrina Imperatives on my Skitarii outside of Stratagems, I don't get squadroned Onagers, I don't get grenades on my Ruststalkers, I don't get my advance move. And to top it off? I got a whole new set of nonsense in the form of that watered down crap that is Canticles foisted upon me You gained options, you can still run your army the way you could before (hint, skitarii needed a bespoke force org to even field models) more or less and you're complaining you don't get to buy 2-3 books for the same units?
I cannot run my army the way I could before. I gained no "options" until the introduction of the Skorpius and the forthcoming Engine War stuff. I could ally in Cult if I wanted them(spoiler: I didn't), and the 'bespoke force org' that they had was no different than Harlequins had last edition...yet Harlequins got HQ choices added. Automatically Appended Next Post: changemod wrote: Gee, it’s almost like cult mechanicus was a small supplement following up the initial release or something.
Gee, it's almost like Cult Mechanicus was designed around being an elite army and people insisted they had to play it as a horde...and for whatever stupid reason, GW caved and let them have their way. Electropriests should have been a Troops choice, not Kataphrons. Dudeface wrote:So to clarify, you're upset your faction got rolled in with another who is thematically very similar from the same organisation. You gained options, you can still run your army the way you could before (hint, skitarii needed a bespoke force org to even field models) more or less and you're complaining you don't get to buy 2-3 books for the same units? He’s been at this for a while, essentially instead of just asking for one or two skitarii specific characters like the rest of admech players, he wants the filthy taint of tech priests out of his pure unsullied skitarii book. lol, no? I've said that we need a Skitarii HQ choice before we need more stupid Techpriests added. I've said that we need Doctrina Imperatives returned to Skitarii because this Canticles stuff is garbage. If you choose to view it that way, that's on you. But you're wrong.
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2020/05/22 18:28:34
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Second Story Man
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Kanluwen wrote:
I cannot run my army the way I could before. I gained no "options" until the introduction of the Skorpius and the forthcoming Engine War stuff. I could ally in Cult if I wanted them(spoiler: I didn't), and the 'bespoke force org' that they had was no different than Harlequins had last edition...yet Harlequins got HQ choices added..
you are aware that you army only was created just because not all boxes fitted the release model by that time and GW split them into 2 factions instead of changing the way they released stuff?
this was just a temporary solution until the next Codex release
your army was a placeholder right from the start and while I can understand it, this is how GW works, deal with it or play something else (as you can expect another change happening with 9th)
"your army" is only there for one edition/life cycle of the Codex books and replaced by something different with the next version of the book. If you expected those things (as how your army works and plays) to stay, you play the wrong game
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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
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2020/05/22 18:29:25
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Cool, so when do Harlequin get rolled into Codex: Aeldari?
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2020/05/22 18:31:14
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Second Story Man
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as soon as the next Eldar Codex is released
it is not like they were not part of that Codex before
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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
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2020/05/22 18:35:19
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Pan- Fo will not be denied!
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At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. |
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2020/05/22 18:36:21
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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2nd Edition!
I’ll.....I’ll get me coat.
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2020/05/22 18:50:15
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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So, just talking with some people from our group, and one pointed out the obvious: All those quotes they spoiled only really match one faction perfectly - the Sisters of Silence, which are supposed to join the custodes in their PA.
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2020/05/22 18:57:02
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Jidmah wrote:So, just talking with some people from our group, and one pointed out the obvious: All those quotes they spoiled only really match one faction perfectly - the Sisters of Silence, which are supposed to join the custodes in their PA.
Which is "War of the Spider", not "Pariah".
Also they match any non-Marine Imperial faction fairly well.
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2020/05/22 19:03:07
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Did they say the preview was limited to Pariah?
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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2020/05/22 19:04:54
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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They said it's something bigger than Psychic Awakening.
We know Pariah, we know War of the Spider, we know Engine War. All of that stuff got previewed already.
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2020/05/22 19:10:28
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Jidmah wrote:So, just talking with some people from our group, and one pointed out the obvious: All those quotes they spoiled only really match one faction perfectly - the Sisters of Silence, which are supposed to join the custodes in their PA.
that makes sense we know sisters are getting slotted into custodes.
that said the silent king's return has been all but said already, that's IMHO the big news and we should expect no more and no less.
anything beyond that one reveal? is a bonus
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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2020/05/22 19:12:54
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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I kind of have a feeling that the last part of the quote (which will likely be shown at the beginning of the preview) will begin with the word "But".
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DQ:70S++G+++M+B++I+Pw40k94+ID+++A++/sWD178R+++T(I)DM+++
Trust me, no matter what damage they have the potential to do, single-shot weapons always flatter to deceive in 40k. Rule #1 - BBAP
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2020/05/22 19:24:55
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Khorne, stop trolling the chatroom!
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
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2020/05/22 20:03:02
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The mention of Redemption could be the return of the Lion who then triggers the civil war mentioned
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2020/05/22 20:23:48
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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Sentineil wrote:The mention of Redemption could be the return of the Lion who then triggers the civil war mentioned
Back to back previews starring the Lion would be epic. Wasn't the HH one shown at the last one?
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2020/05/22 20:23:50
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Jidmah wrote:So, just talking with some people from our group, and one pointed out the obvious: All those quotes they spoiled only really match one faction perfectly - the Sisters of Silence, which are supposed to join the custodes in their PA.
You know, that's a really good call. I mean, if we didn't already know it was Space Slann. SPACE SLANN!
Seriously though, SoS works. *
*Still, Space SLAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN
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2020/05/22 20:25:09
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Mighty Vampire Count
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BrianDavion wrote: Jidmah wrote:So, just talking with some people from our group, and one pointed out the obvious: All those quotes they spoiled only really match one faction perfectly - the Sisters of Silence, which are supposed to join the custodes in their PA.
that makes sense we know sisters are getting slotted into custodes.
that said the silent king's return has been all but said already, that's IMHO the big news and we should expect no more and no less.
anything beyond that one reveal? is a bonus
Do they - Are the Sisters of Silence religious?
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page
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2020/05/22 20:29:09
Subject: Re:'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Bryan Ansell
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Why are *BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD* people *MURDER* thinking the *MAIM* above quote *KILL* means Khorne?
Its been 10 editions since Khorne had anything remotely like martial honour. I don't see GW adding any extra nuance at this late stage.
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2020/05/22 21:20:57
Subject: 'The Big Warhammer 40k Preview' for Saturday May 23rd
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Get ready everyone, your wallets are not prepared ! As in spending, they offer you salvation. The real question will be, how over the top will all the new offerings cost ?
Give those feelers out there folks. I'm going to say the prices will be legendary, strong enough to send ripples of joy through the masses.
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