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FrothingMuppet wrote: Bit of a joke really - barely any stock with independents, GW itself out of stock 45 minutes into a 2 week pre order, and no indication of what comes next for those who didnt get in first.
I get this is not a necessity in life and my world isnt ending because I can't get a copy, but I'm still kind of bummed that outside buying the rules as a stand alone product, I have no way to buy in to the new edition.
How can you launch your new edition and not have plans to have a readily available starter in enough stock to supply demand. If this is the specia limited version, whats coming next? How are new bloods going to be introduced in a cost friendly (lol) way?
It might not have been planned as a single-print run originally; we do not know if the pandemic throwing a wrench into things messed it up in that regard.
I strongly suspect that this isn't the case. I've no special insight, obviously, but since the economic shutdown started I've been regulalry checking my retailers (half dozen of them) for specific stuff I want, but it's all been perpetually out of stock. Like, all of it, even little things like a Necromunda gang or a squad of Primaris, let alone the bigger things I was after. This continued long after the production started back up (couple of months ago now?). Only now is it gradually becoming available again. I kind of got the idea that GW have been plowing almost all of their efforts into this new 9th box, which is to say that I think that production of their other items has suffered in the mean time due to Covid, but that the resources they would have dedicated to this launch probably haven't.
Yeah, I was wrong and did not think that statement through enough before making it.
FrothingMuppet wrote: Bit of a joke really - barely any stock with independents, GW itself out of stock 45 minutes into a 2 week pre order, and no indication of what comes next for those who didnt get in first.
I get this is not a necessity in life and my world isnt ending because I can't get a copy, but I'm still kind of bummed that outside buying the rules as a stand alone product, I have no way to buy in to the new edition.
How can you launch your new edition and not have plans to have a readily available starter in enough stock to supply demand. If this is the specia limited version, whats coming next? How are new bloods going to be introduced in a cost friendly (lol) way?
This is just GW learning from nintendo, like they've learned a lot from shady practices in the video gaming industry.
Deliberately under produce your first run, talk it up a lot, and people will jump over themselves to buy it all for FOMO. Then you can wave around how stupendously popular your product is that it sold out in seconds. Then a bit later you come out with more, and people will trip over themselves again to buy it just in case this too will sell out in minutes for FOMO.
It's all marketing baby.
I dunno if that is shady, it is still the customer making a poor decision here if they buy a product that is not worth X amount of money to them. Such a tactic does exploit a certain mentality, but at the same time I see it as the company shrugging and going 'well if people want to be this foolish' then filling a demand that the customer still created. That said, I do not feel this is GW's (or even Nintendo's) intent, I feel it is accidental. Because bar evidence otherwise the default assumption should always be incompetence.
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FrothingMuppet wrote: Bit of a joke really - barely any stock with independents, GW itself out of stock 45 minutes into a 2 week pre order, and no indication of what comes next for those who didnt get in first.
I get this is not a necessity in life and my world isnt ending because I can't get a copy, but I'm still kind of bummed that outside buying the rules as a stand alone product, I have no way to buy in to the new edition.
How can you launch your new edition and not have plans to have a readily available starter in enough stock to supply demand. If this is the specia limited version, whats coming next? How are new bloods going to be introduced in a cost friendly (lol) way?
It might not have been planned as a single-print run originally; we do not know if the pandemic throwing a wrench into things messed it up in that regard.
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Leth wrote: Dont want the app? Don’t get it, but as is tradition there will be a ton of posts calling people idiots for seeing the value in it. Just getting ahead of the curve.
Agreed, the amount of offense some people are taking over this app is just silly.
Companies put literally millions of dollars into figuring out ways to get people to buy their product impulsively. What chance does the average consumer have? Tween having to work, have a family, a social life, manage chores. How much time and energy does a person have in their life to research something? I mean, richer folks literally hire people whose business is to tell them how to make informed purchasing decisions. But what chance does the average consumer have when the company is shouting "BUY! NOW! ELSE IT WILL BE ALL GONE! YOU'LL MISS EVERYTHING! DON'T HESITATE!". Especially if they decide to take the time to think and research and, whoops, they did want the product, but it's all gone now. Shoulda not thought and consumed immediately like other people did.
Like, really, the power disparity between consumers (and employees) and businesses is dramatic.
All it takes is thinking "is X product worth Y price to me?" It is people's own fault they get wrapped up in superficial bullcrap and let it affect their reasoning. Being able to logically evaluate it a rather critical life skill. Is it kind of crappy of a company to exploit that so many people refuse to develop that skill? Yeah. It is setting people up to fail at their reasoning? Yeah. But the failure is still on the consumer if they buy a product that was not worth the price to them.
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Crimson wrote: Yep. Though it would still be nice if Chaos could also have marines with a decent profile. They should at least give the Chosen a Primaris profile so they wouldn't feel so utterly wimpy.
It'd be nice if the giant new Havocs had two wounds.
tneva82 wrote: Well 9th ed box is here. Next question then is when new codexes comes. Marines august, necrons september?
I'm actually going to put out a guess that space marines aren't actually going to get a new codex but a new additional supplement book that just cover indomitus stuff and some new special snowflake rules.
Crimson wrote: Yep. Though it would still be nice if Chaos could also have marines with a decent profile. They should at least give the Chosen a Primaris profile so they wouldn't feel so utterly wimpy.
It'd be nice if the giant new Havocs had two wounds.
Crimson wrote: Yep. Though it would still be nice if Chaos could also have marines with a decent profile. They should at least give the Chosen a Primaris profile so they wouldn't feel so utterly wimpy.
It'd be nice if the giant new Havocs had two wounds.
They'd have a lot more going for them if they did.
tneva82 wrote: Well 9th ed box is here. Next question then is when new codexes comes. Marines august, necrons september?
I'm actually going to put out a guess that space marines aren't actually going to get a new codex but a new additional supplement book that just cover indomitus stuff and some new special snowflake rules.
tneva82 wrote: Well 9th ed box is here. Next question then is when new codexes comes. Marines august, necrons september?
I'm actually going to put out a guess that space marines aren't actually going to get a new codex but a new additional supplement book that just cover indomitus stuff and some new special snowflake rules.
I'd say as they've launched a new edition they will both get new Codex. Now it might be that GW could do what they did with Chaos and if only a little is changing and its mostly new warscrolls then they could release a supplement for those who already own the current codex alongside an updated codex that contains the old and new info updated.
That said its a new edition, there's likely enough argument between that, the new kits added (quite a significant number for both armies) and a few changes to make for a whole new codex in general.
I'd expect both to land either side by side or within a few weeks of each other fairly quickly after launch. Heck its clear that GW has models for both forces lined up for individual release so yep that would be when we'd see a codex, dice and stuff drop.
Gadzilla666 wrote: The new fw books should be released before the new codex for loyalists. They've already said they would be released with 9th. What's the holdup?
Did they? I thought they only acknowledged the blast/aircraft update for the FW range.
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
Try to open it with another country and switch while on the page of the box then you should see the page for the box in your country if its still available
Matrindur wrote: Try to open it with another country and switch while on the page of the box then you should see the page for the box in your country if its still available
That never works. Switching countries takes me off a product page and back to the main page.
Matrindur wrote: Try to open it with another country and switch while on the page of the box then you should see the page for the box in your country if its still available
That never works. Switching countries takes me off a product page and back to the main page.
Not for me I can change countries while staying on the product page as long as the product has the same name in both
It only switches back if you are on say the Space Marine tab but if you are on a specific product page it shouldn't
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Dentry wrote: Been refreshing the website since 9:50 AM and haven't seen Indomitus go up yet.
I kinda...think its not going to...
The only thing that I think this could mean is that they literally didn't allocate any to the US online store. literally everything else is there, but the Indomitus box itself isn't showing up.
Which of course means that those 'preorder bonuses' they kept advertising also can't be had in the US. Not that big of a deal, but holy crap the box set not being here kind of is!
Matrindur wrote: Try to open it with another country and switch while on the page of the box then you should see the page for the box in your country if its still available
That never works. Switching countries takes me off a product page and back to the main page.
holdup?
