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Unsure on the Skorpehk Lord rules, solely because it’s ranged weapon can kick out potentially unlimited MW. Normally they set a cap?

I really hope the Skorpekh don't fall victim to the unit limit, only running them in squads of 3 kinda sucks, especially if they are fast attack

Sounds like something you keep in reserve to unleash upon a vulnerable flank or back line late game

The extra MW stuff for the gun was not in the original leak so it's likely false.

Really quite underwhelmed by a lot of those stats, especially when compared to anything Primaris. The fact the Skorpekh Lord has the same wounds and less attacks as a Primaris Captain (without buffs!) is just a joke. And the fact it's giant sword is damage D3 also just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Yeah yeah, it might be cheaper or worth the points, but this is more about rules not really reflecting the nature of a model, either through its design or its lore.

 Bosskelot wrote:
The extra MW stuff for the gun was not in the original leak so it's likely false.

Really quite underwhelmed by a lot of those stats, especially when compared to anything Primaris. The fact the Skorpekh Lord has the same wounds and less attacks as a Primaris Captain (without buffs!) is just a joke. And the fact it's giant sword is damage D3 also just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Yeah yeah, it might be cheaper or worth the points, but this is more about rules not really reflecting the nature of a model, either through its design or its lore.

Original leak?

And I think the sword is Damage 3, not d3, but i could have misread

It should definitely be like 8W though

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Bosskelot wrote:
The extra MW stuff for the gun was not in the original leak so it's likely false.

Really quite underwhelmed by a lot of those stats, especially when compared to anything Primaris. The fact the Skorpekh Lord has the same wounds and less attacks as a Primaris Captain (without buffs!) is just a joke. And the fact it's giant sword is damage D3 also just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Yeah yeah, it might be cheaper or worth the points, but this is more about rules not really reflecting the nature of a model, either through its design or its lore.

Original leak?

And I think the sword is Damage 3, not d3, but i could have misread

It should definitely be like 8W though

Ah true, I misread it.

But this stuff was all leaked on 4chans /tg/ board and the actual posts don't mention the MW stuff for the emnitic annihilator gun.

Curious observation - the Destroyers on the GW Website are out of stock, but are not listed as sold-out. Interesting because the Monolith, Warriors and such are sold out. Suggests perhaps that GW isn't replacing destroyers, OR that the update for those models is much further along (or that the intern didn't get told)

 Bosskelot wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Bosskelot wrote:
The extra MW stuff for the gun was not in the original leak so it's likely false.

Really quite underwhelmed by a lot of those stats, especially when compared to anything Primaris. The fact the Skorpekh Lord has the same wounds and less attacks as a Primaris Captain (without buffs!) is just a joke. And the fact it's giant sword is damage D3 also just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Yeah yeah, it might be cheaper or worth the points, but this is more about rules not really reflecting the nature of a model, either through its design or its lore.

Original leak?

And I think the sword is Damage 3, not d3, but i could have misread

It should definitely be like 8W though

Ah true, I misread it.

But this stuff was all leaked on 4chans /tg/ board and the actual posts don't mention the MW stuff for the emnitic annihilator gun.

I thought the 4chan stuff was debunked as false weeks ago

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Bosskelot wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Bosskelot wrote:
The extra MW stuff for the gun was not in the original leak so it's likely false.

Really quite underwhelmed by a lot of those stats, especially when compared to anything Primaris. The fact the Skorpekh Lord has the same wounds and less attacks as a Primaris Captain (without buffs!) is just a joke. And the fact it's giant sword is damage D3 also just leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

Yeah yeah, it might be cheaper or worth the points, but this is more about rules not really reflecting the nature of a model, either through its design or its lore.

Original leak?

And I think the sword is Damage 3, not d3, but i could have misread

It should definitely be like 8W though

Ah true, I misread it.

But this stuff was all leaked on 4chans /tg/ board and the actual posts don't mention the MW stuff for the emnitic annihilator gun.

I thought the 4chan stuff was debunked as false weeks ago

The leak and unit stats we're talking about right now are being posted on 4chan currently by a guy who has the Indomitus box and is posting pictures of stuff in it.

Overlord is significantly better now.

MWBD is 9" and not infantry only, that's very good.
Relentless March is interesting but no more help with charge rolls (i sometimes used it to try an 8" charge after a Veil).
The glaive feels like a sub-warscythe to me, less AP and random damage is not a deal breaker to me.

Overall a meh feeling, love the miniature though.

The damage D3 and still low attacks really suck, but the new aura and MWBD are gigantic improvements. Finally your characters can affect more than just infantry!

Shaelinith wrote:
MWBD is 9" and not infantry only, that's very good.
Relentless March is interesting but no more help with charge rolls (i sometimes used it to try an 8" charge after a Veil).
The glaive feels like a sub-warscythe to me, less AP and random damage is not a deal breaker to me.

Overall a meh feeling, love the miniature though.

This is a pretty gigantic improvement. Longer reach on the Aura, Longer reach for MWBD, which affects everything now.

Yeah, it has subpar attacks, but the leaked points values put it at 90 pts.

Overlord seems VERY good so far.

OK really liking scarabs now.
I know they are weak but if you catch an opponent off guard they will regret it

Edit: I realise you still get your save but I can see them being useful to against against models which are poor in CC just or models with few wounds to knock them out

Any chance of the Skorpekh rules?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Any chance of the Skorpekh rules?

Updated the post with them. They matched the text leaks. Just waiting on the Lord now.

Surprised that the reanimator is an elite, also not happy its T5, if it had an inv then it wouldn't be too bad but its a big target. Though at PL5 it not the most expensive thing ever

Plasma guy is fairly interesting. Decent weapon, a steady trickle of mortal wounds. Definitely needs his bodyguards.

Skorpekhs... eh. Not sold on the weapon loadout or the plasmacyte. The big weapon is fine- lets them deal with a variety of targets. +1 attack for the 'threshers' is rather bland- not sure that's enough hitting power for the current (or 8th edition) ruleset.

If a real kit comes with the full book, I'd hope for more options, rather than being stuck with a reap-blade and 2 threshers.

The damage output of Skorpekhs looks very tasty, assuming MWBD, Lord re-rolls and Plasmacyte buff. I'll be extra interested in their full wargear options in the full codex/box release because the sheer amount of strength 8 hitting on 2+'s attacks could be very nasty.

Voss wrote:
Plasma guy is fairly interesting. Decent weapon, a steady trickle of mortal wounds. Definitely needs his bodyguards.

Skorpekhs... eh. Not sold on the weapon loadout or the plasmacyte. The big weapon is fine- lets them deal with a variety of targets. +1 attack for the 'threshers' is rather bland- not sure that's enough hitting power for the current (or 8th edition) ruleset.

If a real kit comes with the full book, I'd hope for more options, rather than being stuck with a reap-blade and 2 threshers.

The Skorpekhs seem like they can output a huge amount of damage. You're getting 6 attacks with the threshers if you use the plasmacyte. at -3 and Damage 2 that's going to tear through everything, even with an invuln save.

 Sasori wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Any chance of the Skorpekh rules?

Updated the post with them. They matched the text leaks. Just waiting on the Lord now.

Superstar!

Here, have an Internet.




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 Sasori wrote:

Voss wrote:
Plasma guy is fairly interesting. Decent weapon, a steady trickle of mortal wounds. Definitely needs his bodyguards.

Skorpekhs... eh. Not sold on the weapon loadout or the plasmacyte. The big weapon is fine- lets them deal with a variety of targets. +1 attack for the 'threshers' is rather bland- not sure that's enough hitting power for the current (or 8th edition) ruleset.

If a real kit comes with the full book, I'd hope for more options, rather than being stuck with a reap-blade and 2 threshers.

The Skorpekhs seem like they can output a huge amount of damage. You're getting 6 attacks with the threshers if you use the plasmacyte. at -3 and Damage 2 that's going to tear through everything, even with an invuln save.

How are you getting to 6? 3 base, +1 for Thrashers, +1 for tainted energy?

Oh, you're right. It's 5 base with the plasmacyte.


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Updated with the Skorpekh Lord.

 Overread wrote:
Curious observation - the Destroyers on the GW Website are out of stock, but are not listed as sold-out. Interesting because the Monolith, Warriors and such are sold out. Suggests perhaps that GW isn't replacing destroyers, OR that the update for those models is much further along (or that the intern didn't get told)

Or maybe they'll just leave them as 'Temporarily out of stock Online' until they're ready to release the Lokhust Destroyer kit. (Note that the Necron Warriors are still listed as 'Temporarily out of stock Online' in the US web store).

Shaelinith wrote:
MWBD is 9" and not infantry only, that's very good.

I'd hold off on the celebrations until we see the codex, since the Indomitus box has no Necron vehicles it could be an omission to prevent confusion (and doing just the opposite for veteran players).

Wonder why that bloke lied about the mortal wounds thing on Skorpekh Lords?

 Sasori wrote:

Voss wrote:
Plasma guy is fairly interesting. Decent weapon, a steady trickle of mortal wounds. Definitely needs his bodyguards.

Skorpekhs... eh. Not sold on the weapon loadout or the plasmacyte. The big weapon is fine- lets them deal with a variety of targets. +1 attack for the 'threshers' is rather bland- not sure that's enough hitting power for the current (or 8th edition) ruleset.

If a real kit comes with the full book, I'd hope for more options, rather than being stuck with a reap-blade and 2 threshers.

The Skorpekhs seem like they can output a huge amount of damage. You're getting 6 attacks with the threshers if you use the plasmacyte. at -3 and Damage 2 that's going to tear through everything, even with an invuln save.

5 attacks with the plasmacyte (3 base+1 weapon+1plasmacyte), The plasmacyte strength buff doesn't matter much against most targets (you'll still wound on 3s unless they were t5, and the amount of t6 and t10 stuff is very low)

Its just... for anti-horde duty they're not a great choice, they just don't have enough attacks. For anti primaris duty, I guess they're fine, but +1A over the reap blades is just OK. For anti-vehicle they just aren't enough. The strength buff and d3 will take you further than the bonus attack and less everything else.
I like that they're in the elite slot though.


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Lord is nice, actually. Mini anti-horde gun, and anti-horde claw (8 attacks against chaff, basically). Only baffling thing is his main weapon is Identical to the reap-blade except the -1 to hit. That really bugs me. Why is +1 S and A on the lord's profile the dividing line when the unit has a way to get +1 S and A????

Scarabs wound automatically on hit rolls of 6, nice! And gain +1W, also nice!

I dunno. They’re a pretty scary prospect for enemy elites.

Send them up with the Lord, and you get a pretty reliable unit.

Voss wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

Voss wrote:
Plasma guy is fairly interesting. Decent weapon, a steady trickle of mortal wounds. Definitely needs his bodyguards.

Skorpekhs... eh. Not sold on the weapon loadout or the plasmacyte. The big weapon is fine- lets them deal with a variety of targets. +1 attack for the 'threshers' is rather bland- not sure that's enough hitting power for the current (or 8th edition) ruleset.

If a real kit comes with the full book, I'd hope for more options, rather than being stuck with a reap-blade and 2 threshers.

The Skorpekhs seem like they can output a huge amount of damage. You're getting 6 attacks with the threshers if you use the plasmacyte. at -3 and Damage 2 that's going to tear through everything, even with an invuln save.

5 attacks with the plasmacyte (3 base+1 weapon+1plasmacyte), The plasmacyte strength buff doesn't matter much against most targets (you'll still wound on 3s unless they were t5, and the amount of t6 and t10 stuff is very low)

Its just... for anti-horde duty they're not a great choice, they just don't have enough attacks. For anti primaris duty, I guess they're fine, but +1A over the reap blades is just OK. For anti-vehicle they just aren't enough. The strength buff and d3 will take you further than the bonus attack and less everything else..

They can get 14 rerolling 1s to hit with at least str 6 so they aren't bad at cutting through hordes (or primaris for that matter) im hoping for an advance and charge stratagem though as M8 isn't huge but the overlord does help

Voss wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

Voss wrote:
Plasma guy is fairly interesting. Decent weapon, a steady trickle of mortal wounds. Definitely needs his bodyguards.

Skorpekhs... eh. Not sold on the weapon loadout or the plasmacyte. The big weapon is fine- lets them deal with a variety of targets. +1 attack for the 'threshers' is rather bland- not sure that's enough hitting power for the current (or 8th edition) ruleset.

If a real kit comes with the full book, I'd hope for more options, rather than being stuck with a reap-blade and 2 threshers.

The Skorpekhs seem like they can output a huge amount of damage. You're getting 6 attacks with the threshers if you use the plasmacyte. at -3 and Damage 2 that's going to tear through everything, even with an invuln save.

5 attacks with the plasmacyte (3 base+1 weapon+1plasmacyte), The plasmacyte strength buff doesn't matter much against most targets (you'll still wound on 3s unless they were t5, and the amount of t6 and t10 stuff is very low)

Its just... for anti-horde duty they're not a great choice, they just don't have enough attacks. For anti primaris duty, I guess they're fine, but +1A over the reap blades is just OK. For anti-vehicle they just aren't enough. The strength buff and d3 will take you further than the bonus attack and less everything else..

Yeah, I corrected my mistake.

I don't see how they are anti-horde. They will carve through most everything except T8 Units with relative ease.

 Sasori wrote:
Overlord is significantly better now.

How many wounds has he got? Can't make it out

Edit: Ignore me sorry my phone screen wasn't playing ball and showing the picture properly

1 thing I will say itd annoying to see we still suffer from the fact none of our units seem to be allowed a 2+ Save. Maybe we would be if our living metal was made out of adamantium and ceramite