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2020/07/04 18:45:50
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Dudeface wrote: OK I decried people sating it was the void dragon months ago, I was convinced it was a dumb move given the existing fluff has it trapped on Mars. I was wrong about them not doing it, but sadly right that it makes little sense and "oh merrr gawd it are most powerful c'tan evurrrr" except thats has never been said or suggested anywhere.
Im pretty certain there is some lore somewhere that states even the deceiver wouldn't mess with this guy and he happily messed with the Night bringer
As far as I was aware the nightbringer ate the most of his peers and since 3rd ed has been top dog
Found a quote from lexicanum regarding the Void dragon
"In a transcript of a Vox-communication between one Inquisitor Horst and a Tech-priest, Alagos, the Void Dragon is described as the most powerful of all the Star Gods, having the ability to create almost invincible warriors. "
Necron codex 8th edition: "Though the nightbringers power has been broken, the shards that remain are still the most powerful of their kind."
Like I say they changed their tune a bit quickly for my tastes.
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2020/07/04 18:46:53
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Blndmage wrote: Who else is looking at the lighting arcs connecting to the bases and expecting them to break pretty easy?
If they can do a model like this on a 60mm base and not have it break, then I'm not really worried about the Silent King...
Spoiler:
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/07/04 19:04:00
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Blndmage wrote: Who else is looking at the lighting arcs connecting to the bases and expecting them to break pretty easy?
If they can do a model like this on a 60mm base and not have it break, then I'm not really worried about the Silent King...
Spoiler:
I was actually busy converting that model into a Nightbringer. The connection to the base is surprisingly solid. That spindly little arm is another story.
2020/07/04 19:26:47
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
I actually think there's likely 1 more kit coming our way, and it's NOT the model that's hiding behind the Monolith. Flayed Ones. Probably the kit that was in the most need of an update, and with Games workshop trying to move away from Finecast, AND with their recent involvement in some recent stories, I'm confident that there's going to be a new Flayed One kit coming at some point.
2020/07/04 19:28:24
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
yeah, not fond of it. The old Nightbringer is both atmospheric and graceful. The Greater Daemons look great. This new Ctan has some neat ideas but overall, meh.
Darsath wrote: I actually think there's likely 1 more kit coming our way, and it's NOT the model that's hiding behind the Monolith. Flayed Ones. Probably the kit that was in the most need of an update, and with Games workshop trying to move away from Finecast, AND with their recent involvement in some recent stories, I'm confident that there's going to be a new Flayed One kit coming at some point.
This would be nice, but I'm not counting on it. I'd love a new kit with Plastic Flayed ones that are more like the Metal ones.
What's interesting is that the destroyers are still up on the GW website. Warriors and Monolith are gone, which suggests that regular destroyers might be remaining
Overread wrote: What's interesting is that the destroyers are still up on the GW website. Warriors and Monolith are gone, which suggests that regular destroyers might be remaining
I wouldn't read that much into it. The Heavy Destroyer upgrade pack is still available as well.
Overread wrote: What's interesting is that the destroyers are still up on the GW website. Warriors and Monolith are gone, which suggests that regular destroyers might be remaining
Could also be that the Lokhust are being released a little bit after the Monolith and Warriors.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/07/04 21:00:34
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
torblind wrote: Wonder if the platform itself is weaponized. The two side towers do look like Tesla weaponry. Bit I can't see anything in particular on the floater throne. But the CTan husk likely is powering something, and two lords are required to control it.
In one of the other photos the silent king his supreme command barge thing showed gauss weapons. I'd assume you'll have a couple options
2020/07/04 21:02:01
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
torblind wrote: Wonder if the platform itself is weaponized. The two side towers do look like Tesla weaponry. Bit I can't see anything in particular on the floater throne. But the CTan husk likely is powering something, and two lords are required to control it.
In one of the other photos the silent king his supreme command barge thing showed gauss weapons. I'd assume you'll have a couple options
You can see a 360 degree pic of the Silent King in the teaser video. I don't see any gauss weapons...
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/07/04 21:06:51
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
I can see where people are coming from, but personally i like the model. It, to me, looks like it should
When you read descriptions of the Dragon of Mars and when you heard the name "Void Dragon" what came to your mind is a naked dude with a tail and wings as opposed to, say, something that looks anything like a dragon?
The tail looks particularly stupid, like it was haphazardly slapped onto the design when the designer realized "Oh gak he's supposed to be a dragon, right?"
2020/07/04 21:07:28
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
That said its a very cool looking model! Very much in GW's current "Massive impractical design of massive enjoy transporting me" category Then again with monoliths the Necrons are going to be a trickier force to transport in general (two bags)
I am really liking the look of the new models, though jury is still out on how they will be to build and paint obviously.
I think the new C'tan fits better with the Necron line. Though nice looking sculpts (if not well designed) I always thought the Deceiver and Night Bringer felt out of place on the tabletop next to the other Necron models. In fact I think their most effective presentation on the tabletop was when they were being used as proxies for non-Necron characters.
As for the apparent ret-con of the Void Bringer's place in the C'tan hierarchy, I really can't be bothered by it and certainly won't break my sense of immersion.
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2020/07/04 21:25:36
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Blndmage wrote: Who else is looking at the lighting arcs connecting to the bases and expecting them to break pretty easy?
If they can do a model like this on a 60mm base and not have it break, then I'm not really worried about the Silent King...
Spoiler:
Funny you bring up Olynder since the first complaint you'll hear from Nighthaunts players about their army is how dangerously breakable she is. I've seen tactics videos offer suggestions on how to add stuff to the base to stabilize her a little.
2020/07/04 21:43:29
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
I can see where people are coming from, but personally i like the model. It, to me, looks like it should
When you read descriptions of the Dragon of Mars and when you heard the name "Void Dragon" what came to your mind is a naked dude with a tail and wings as opposed to, say, something that looks anything like a dragon?
The tail looks particularly stupid, like it was haphazardly slapped onto the design when the designer realized "Oh gak he's supposed to be a dragon, right?"
Maybe they were trying to go for William Blake?
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2020/07/04 21:48:43
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
I can see where people are coming from, but personally i like the model. It, to me, looks like it should
When you read descriptions of the Dragon of Mars and when you heard the name "Void Dragon" what came to your mind is a naked dude with a tail and wings as opposed to, say, something that looks anything like a dragon?
The tail looks particularly stupid, like it was haphazardly slapped onto the design when the designer realized "Oh gak he's supposed to be a dragon, right?"
I like the body, and somewhat the head. Its just... everything else globbed on there.
And the putty lightning in particularly doesn't look finished. I can see what they were trying for, but the constraints of casting it and using it as support material clearly got in the way of making it look good.
Which happens pretty much every time they try this kind of 'scenic' pose.
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2020/07/04 21:55:12
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
I can see where people are coming from, but personally i like the model. It, to me, looks like it should
When you read descriptions of the Dragon of Mars and when you heard the name "Void Dragon" what came to your mind is a naked dude with a tail and wings as opposed to, say, something that looks anything like a dragon?
The tail looks particularly stupid, like it was haphazardly slapped onto the design when the designer realized "Oh gak he's supposed to be a dragon, right?"
Maybe they were trying to go for William Blake?
Spoiler:
Maybe they're fan's of Gerald Brom's artwork?
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/07/04 22:18:36
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
I can see where people are coming from, but personally i like the model. It, to me, looks like it should
When you read descriptions of the Dragon of Mars and when you heard the name "Void Dragon" what came to your mind is a naked dude with a tail and wings as opposed to, say, something that looks anything like a dragon?
The tail looks particularly stupid, like it was haphazardly slapped onto the design when the designer realized "Oh gak he's supposed to be a dragon, right?"
The more I look at it, the more it looks like the tail and the wings are necron artifice attached to the shard, maybe some kind of canoptek creature similar to what we see in the tesseract vault. It seems like a bit of visual storytelling, the shard generating the body, the void in place of a face with the symbol of the triarch blazing in the void, the obvious discontinuities in the body where the shard is struggling to maintain it's form.
As for the void dragon, you might be taking that a smidge literally, is the nightbringer made out of night? The Names of the C'Tan are totemic of what their nature is, so void dragon tells us about him rather than describes his appearance, since all of the C'Tan appear to take the shape of idealized humanoid figures. My guess for the direction they are going to take with him is some play on "Here be dragons" annotations in old maps, he represents an unknowable terror from the void, so alien to life that we can barely begin to understand him.
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2020/07/04 23:25:23
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Fair point on him not looking like a dragon. Ive always heard the Void Dragon as the master of the material so I figured he could change shape. To me the model looks eldritch and powerful, wreathed in lightning. I could be wrong but the tail and wings look to be part of a Canoptek creature. Not the best model but I like it
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2020/07/04 23:38:10
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Kharne the Befriender wrote: I could be wrong but the tail and wings look to be part of a Canoptek creature. Not the best model but I like it
There is some sort of device attached to his back that looks reminiscent of the Destroyer's hover platform. You can see it clearly if you run the YouTube video back at one quarter speed.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/07/04 23:40:49
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Well good job internet. You managed to finally officially change The Dragon into The Void Dragon.
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This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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2020/07/04 23:48:10
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
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