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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm, so a Ltd Ed box. Goody.

And either a true starter runs along side it.
Or they keep changing out the starter rule set box perhaps?

Or I guess potentially there could just be smaller Know No Fear style boxes afterwards and nothing like a DI at all..


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 Asmodai wrote:

Danny76 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I know the article says pushfit but the sprue on the preview didn't look pushfit - they looked normal with optional weapons and such. I wonder if the person writing got something wrong on that front. Certainly the necron stuff looked normal for necrons rather than pushfit designs.

Yeah. Maybe some bits do so they’ve said it.
But I’d say they are the proper kits, judging by them giving ‘value’ on the box etc

Ditto. Also, it's a limited launch product. I don't think they'd do that many sprues for something that will only be on sale for a couple weeks.

For sure. It’d be such a waste..

I think it is indeed £120.
I could quite see each side costing £120 each if they were sold as individual kits so that’s in line with £240 separately..

New Overlord, Plasmancer, Scarabs, Judiciar and Bladeguard Ancient are the most appealing sculpts to me from this box.

 Overread wrote:
I know the article says pushfit but the sprue on the preview didn't look pushfit - they looked normal with optional weapons and such. I wonder if the person writing got something wrong on that front. Certainly the necron stuff looked normal for necrons rather than pushfit designs.

Actually, looking at the shoulder joins for the warriors? They look like pushfits.
They're blatantly not ball and socket like the current ones- you can see a diamond or pentagonal socket at the top left of the picture, and the one below him has an arm that's farm too spindly (the armor layer is missing)

The skorpekh designs really lend themselves to push fit (basically short poles joining weapons to arms).

The clearance on the bikes just behind that front wheel..

As soon as I heard "not a starter set" first thing I thought was, pricier than a starter set then. I'm sure this is going to be at least $220, probably more, but it's a fine set and I can't see myself not picking it up.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Warscythe, it's a hyperphase glaive...

Seeing that Necrons already have hyperphase weapons (e.g., hyperphase swords)...

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Gauss Blaster, it's a Relic Gauss blaster...

Seeing that Space Marines have relic weapons...

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Tomb Spyder, it's a Canoptek Reanimator...

Seeing that 'Canoptek' is a term for Necron constructs (e.g., the aforementioned Tom Spyder) and it's not a Tomb Spyder...

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Cryptek, it's a Plasmancer...

Seeing as it's a Harbinger of Destruction, a class of Cryptek found in the fifth edition codex that was also called a Plasmancer...

Yeah, exactly..

I don't think any of us Necron players are going to complain about getting some of our options back.... Calling it Necron "Bloat" Just feels silly.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Warscythe, it's a hyperphase glaive...

Seeing that Necrons already have hyperphase weapons (e.g., hyperphase swords)...

So Necrons really need (and have meaninful design space for) a third (fourth if you count the Staff of Light) melee polearm weapon?

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Gauss Blaster, it's a Relic Gauss blaster...

Seeing that Space Marines have relic weapons...

Yeah and Marines also have four different types of Ancients, four different Terminator units, and a billion Dreadnoughts. Bloat.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Tomb Spyder, it's a Canoptek Reanimator...

Seeing that 'Canoptek' is a term for Necron constructs (e.g., the aforementioned Tom Spyder) and it's not a Tomb Spyder...

Why introduce another new unit into the 'mid-size construct which aids with reanimation' design space?

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Cryptek, it's a Plasmancer...

Seeing as it's a Harbinger of Destruction, a class of Cryptek found in the fifth edition codex that was also called a Plasmancer...

Why does the Plasmancer need to be a new distinct unit? Why not just give the standard Cryptek the option to take an eldritch lance (oh, no, sorry - its plasmic lance now) back?

Everything looks great.

Though I must admit I am disappointed to see the Captain only has a MC power sword. For a choppy sword squad why wouldn’t he have a relic blade? Also no mention of what firearm he has.

The vet squad not having the volkite pistols was a surprise too.

Curious what wargear the Ancient might have..

A concern is they say in the article its the first place to get the rulebook, so does this mean whoever buys this gets a limited time head start?

I like how the Plasmancer has elements of the Age of Sigmar Cairn Wraith in its design as that was always a popular model for Cryptek conversions...

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Warscythe, it's a hyperphase glaive...

Seeing that Necrons already have hyperphase weapons (e.g., hyperphase swords)...

So Necrons really need (and have meaninful design space for) a third (fourth if you count the Staff of Light) melee polearm weapon?

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Gauss Blaster, it's a Relic Gauss blaster...

Seeing that Space Marines have relic weapons...

Yeah and Marines also have four different types of Ancients, four different Terminator units, and a billion Dreadnoughts. Bloat.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Tomb Spyder, it's a Canoptek Reanimator...

Seeing that 'Canoptek' is a term for Necron constructs (e.g., the aforementioned Tom Spyder) and it's not a Tomb Spyder...

Why introduce another new unit into the 'mid-size construct which aids with reanimation' design space?

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Cryptek, it's a Plasmancer...

Seeing as it's a Harbinger of Destruction, a class of Cryptek found in the fifth edition codex that was also called a Plasmancer...

Why does the Plasmancer need to be a new distinct unit? Why not just give the standard Cryptek the option to take an eldritch lance (oh, no, sorry - its plasmic lance now) back?

This really looks like you are just whining to whine. Yes, as a Necron player I am very happy to have ALL of these options, full stop.

I'm kind of encouraged that the Evy Metal team copied the colourscheme I was mucking around with doing necrons Adding some copper to the bands and legs not just doing all silver.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Warscythe, it's a hyperphase glaive...

Seeing that Necrons already have hyperphase weapons (e.g., hyperphase swords)...

So Necrons really need (and have meaninful design space for) a third (fourth if you count the Staff of Light) melee polearm weapon?

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Gauss Blaster, it's a Relic Gauss blaster...

Seeing that Space Marines have relic weapons...

Yeah and Marines also have four different types of Ancients, four different Terminator units, and a billion Dreadnoughts. Bloat.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Tomb Spyder, it's a Canoptek Reanimator...

Seeing that 'Canoptek' is a term for Necron constructs (e.g., the aforementioned Tom Spyder) and it's not a Tomb Spyder...

Why introduce another new unit into the 'mid-size construct which aids with reanimation' design space?

 Ghaz wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's not a Cryptek, it's a Plasmancer...

Seeing as it's a Harbinger of Destruction, a class of Cryptek found in the fifth edition codex that was also called a Plasmancer...

Why does the Plasmancer need to be a new distinct unit? Why not just give the standard Cryptek the option to take an eldritch lance (oh, no, sorry - its plasmic lance now) back?

In order: Yes, irrelevant to the point you're failing to make, because that's actually a huge niche especially considering how underdeveloped the canoptek part of Necrons have been in 8th, because this way it can have it's own bespoke rules that allow it to fill a unique and valuable niche in Necron's otherwise cookie cutter army building?

Necrons have relatively few units and very few options, calling this stuff 'bloat' is the sourest of sour grapes.

Danny76 wrote:
The clearance on the bikes just behind that front wheel..

Think about the suspension for that front tire as well. That casing behind the wheel is going to scrape on a perfectly average road if it goes up hill at even slight incline.

They should've gone with primaris hoverbikes.

You could salvage it by cutting off the side panel before the protrusions where it bends inwards.

New paint colours are coming based on the new necron colour scheme!

 Overread wrote:
New paint colours are coming based on the new necron colour scheme!

I've seen a video on YouTube that got close to the color scheme just by using a heavy application of Reikland Fleshshade Gloss.

Limited non starter box for the new 40k edition?
Confused of what's the point?

I hope its not them just playing with words to build hype because all that does is just the opposite.

Max mentioned the Necrons are done from Runelord Brass and that there will be a Runelord Brass Spray and some new washes.

"This boxset is for the true fans of 40k."

Tutut, such gatekeeping! /s

Space marines get a go-kart - sorry ork war buggy

Also a Primaris SM, eldar style weapon platform


And its confirmed that the big hover with a huge gun is a necron heavy destroyer! We also got a spin aorund of the other version of the long legged necron walker.

Reinforcements

Primaris ATV? Sweet I think that and the turret(got a Space Crusade rapier vibe IMO) could be new easybuilds.

Quadbike is cool. The turret explains one of the recent Rumour Engine things (I think). Heavy Destroyer thing is boss. And the Doomstalker is basically whatever the non-push fit Reanimator kit will have as its second build option.

The turret reminds me of an updated version of this. For those who don't know, that's the plastic Tarantula that came with Space Crusade back in the day.

Not in the starter but some time in the future:

As a Ravenwing player, can't say I'm thrilled with the look of the ATV....maybe it'll grow on me?? If not, kitbash a Primaris Attack bike perhaps.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Limited non starter box for the new 40k edition?
Confused of what's the point?

I hope its not them just playing with words to build hype because all that does is just the opposite.

This box is for existing players. There’ll be a different product aimed squarely at new players. It allows them to tailor the specific box to the target market - example given was no dice or measuring sticks needed in this box. It makes good business sense.

Post stream article

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/13/warhammer-40000-preview-beyond-the-boxgw-homepage-post-2/

Includes the new stuff.

 Overread wrote:
Space marines get a go-kart - sorry ork war buggy

Also a Primaris SM, eldar style weapon platform

The Firestrike is basically what I've been advocating for Guard Heavy Weapon Teams' tripod mounted stuff+mortars to get replaced with.

 Chamberlain wrote:
Not in the starter but some time in the future:

It's official, Cawl is now looting ork tech.

My ork buggies are definitely going to keep a red shell handy in case the primaris buggy pulls ahead of them.