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2020/08/26 12:55:18
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Kanluwen wrote: I'm not expecting the Lumineth stuff to start until week two, at least, for September. Thinking it will be set up in waves of Alarith(Stonemage, Stoneguard, and the Stonehearts), Vanari(Wardens, Sentinels, Dawnriders) with the Scinari Cathaller, then Teclis and Light of Eltharion to round it out?
With that said, it wouldn't be impossible for the easy build 40k stuff to launch alongside the Lumineth.
Novel comes to preorder 5th. Unless gw has habit of releasing tie in before actual product odds are good they come in 5th. And there's not that many kits(about 10) to be more than 2 weeks sensibly. Bonereapers got about same or more in 1 week. And with corona catchup more likely to put 2 weeks to 1 than spread it out.
Fair enough. I didn't remember if we had a date for the novel yet.
2020/08/26 13:49:38
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
tneva82 wrote: Well we know the key ones. Are you really thinking WS or LD is going to make a difference?-) Or that it's going to have super hyper mega h2h weapon and rather than shooting you are going to charge into melee slaughtering 10 primaris in a heartbeat?-)
Why does it even have to? It's meant for popping out and clearing 10 man guard/grot/gaunts etc. Units that are sat on objectives. You keep saying "oh but light infantry is dead", well I hate to break it to you but many armies have no choice but to put light infantry on objectives since they're the only troop choices for their armies.
because everything has to kill an entire squad of Marines in one turn or it's "worthless" that's always been the judging point
This forums wild marine allergy is slowly getting out of hand. Wait until tneva realises 10 marines don't wipe 10 marines, oxymoron of them being the best units in existence but worthless will be amazing.
Looks like you're purposely trying to forget that Necrons need no help killing GEQ but okay.
And st5 ap -2 30" guns on a t5 troop aren't good at injuring marines? Or the d2 rods of covenant? I think the issue is they're showing a unit designed for clearing out soft/depleted backfield units and people are expecting it to clear 10 man primaris units single handedly. It's purpose is for killing those low number squishing, whinging it isn't great at dropping core troop marines is ignoring what it's being advertised as.
....which is already something the army had with Tesla. Again, the army doesn't need help killing GEQ or "depleted" units.
Regardless of what the army "needs", this is what we were given. You're still judging a fish by its ability to climb trees.
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2020/08/26 14:05:42
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
tneva82 wrote: Well we know the key ones. Are you really thinking WS or LD is going to make a difference?-) Or that it's going to have super hyper mega h2h weapon and rather than shooting you are going to charge into melee slaughtering 10 primaris in a heartbeat?-)
Why does it even have to? It's meant for popping out and clearing 10 man guard/grot/gaunts etc. Units that are sat on objectives. You keep saying "oh but light infantry is dead", well I hate to break it to you but many armies have no choice but to put light infantry on objectives since they're the only troop choices for their armies.
because everything has to kill an entire squad of Marines in one turn or it's "worthless" that's always been the judging point
This forums wild marine allergy is slowly getting out of hand. Wait until tneva realises 10 marines don't wipe 10 marines, oxymoron of them being the best units in existence but worthless will be amazing.
Looks like you're purposely trying to forget that Necrons need no help killing GEQ but okay.
And st5 ap -2 30" guns on a t5 troop aren't good at injuring marines? Or the d2 rods of covenant? I think the issue is they're showing a unit designed for clearing out soft/depleted backfield units and people are expecting it to clear 10 man primaris units single handedly. It's purpose is for killing those low number squishing, whinging it isn't great at dropping core troop marines is ignoring what it's being advertised as.
....which is already something the army had with Tesla. Again, the army doesn't need help killing GEQ or "depleted" units.
Regardless of what the army "needs", this is what we were given. You're still judging a fish by its ability to climb trees.
If the army needs something to climb trees though what good is another fish?
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vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2020/08/26 19:45:35
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
That's a completely different discussion all together. There's a lot that Necrons need. The Hexmark may or may not fit that description. The current discussion at hand is "how good is the Hexmark at clearing backline GEQs"? It seems to be capable of doing that just fine.
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2020/08/26 20:44:50
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
H.B.M.C. wrote: Sadly I don't think the Bike Chaplain is ETB.
Shame, I want him to lead my Outriders.
Seeing Astreia Solbright, his closest AoS equivalent is, I have no idea how you reached that conclusion. Especially seeing that of all SM leaders, Chaplains have the least options so having him out of all the possibilities be ETB is pretty reasonable choice.
Because unlike all other articles GW includes ETB in, it wasn't stated to be ETB.
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2020/08/26 22:19:43
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
I plan to grab several of the chaplain bikes. 2 chapters to give them too, and hopefully gw will make more biker characters, like captain and chaos lord, de archon, custodes shield captain, and ork warboss. At a minimum.
2020/08/27 00:38:43
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
MajorWesJanson wrote: I plan to grab several of the chaplain bikes. 2 chapters to give them too, and hopefully gw will make more biker characters, like captain and chaos lord, de archon, custodes shield captain, and ork warboss. At a minimum.
characters on bikes are such popular HQ choices GW really should double down on it a bit
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2020/08/27 03:55:08
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
MajorWesJanson wrote: I plan to grab several of the chaplain bikes. 2 chapters to give them too, and hopefully gw will make more biker characters, like captain and chaos lord, de archon, custodes shield captain, and ork warboss. At a minimum.
Erm - isn't the Custodes Shield Captain already covered by the jetbike kit as it is?
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Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
2020/08/27 06:40:47
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
MajorWesJanson wrote: I plan to grab several of the chaplain bikes. 2 chapters to give them too, and hopefully gw will make more biker characters, like captain and chaos lord, de archon, custodes shield captain, and ork warboss. At a minimum.
Erm - isn't the Custodes Shield Captain already covered by the jetbike kit as it is?
Yeah, but that’s absolutely no reason why it can’t also be covered by an extra-fancy stand-alone version at 2-3 times the price, is it?
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2020/08/27 09:42:17
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
MajorWesJanson wrote: I plan to grab several of the chaplain bikes. 2 chapters to give them too, and hopefully gw will make more biker characters, like captain and chaos lord, de archon, custodes shield captain, and ork warboss. At a minimum.
Erm - isn't the Custodes Shield Captain already covered by the jetbike kit as it is?
Yeah, but that’s absolutely no reason why it can’t also be covered by an extra-fancy stand-alone version at 2-3 times the price, is it?
ohh totally! I'd love to buy a stand alone captain for 5 bucks less then I'd buy a box of the normal bikes! what a great idea!
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2020/08/27 19:42:10
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
MajorWesJanson wrote: I plan to grab several of the chaplain bikes. 2 chapters to give them too, and hopefully gw will make more biker characters, like captain and chaos lord, de archon, custodes shield captain, and ork warboss. At a minimum.
Erm - isn't the Custodes Shield Captain already covered by the jetbike kit as it is?
Yeah, but that’s absolutely no reason why it can’t also be covered by an extra-fancy stand-alone version at 2-3 times the price, is it?
ohh totally! I'd love to buy a stand alone captain for 5 bucks less then I'd buy a box of the normal bikes! what a great idea!
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2020/08/27 20:25:28
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
MajorWesJanson wrote: I plan to grab several of the chaplain bikes. 2 chapters to give them too, and hopefully gw will make more biker characters, like captain and chaos lord, de archon, custodes shield captain, and ork warboss. At a minimum.
Erm - isn't the Custodes Shield Captain already covered by the jetbike kit as it is?
And the normal shield captains are covered by the terminator and custodian guard kits. At least the custodian guard and wardens have a nice cape bit. But it would be nice to have a unique model for the hqs. I mean you can make a space marine lieutenant out of the primaris kit, but they still make 12 of them.
2020/08/27 23:12:07
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
MajorWesJanson wrote: I plan to grab several of the chaplain bikes. 2 chapters to give them too, and hopefully gw will make more biker characters, like captain and chaos lord, de archon, custodes shield captain, and ork warboss. At a minimum.
Erm - isn't the Custodes Shield Captain already covered by the jetbike kit as it is?
Yeah, but that’s absolutely no reason why it can’t also be covered by an extra-fancy stand-alone version at 2-3 times the price, is it?
ohh totally! I'd love to buy a stand alone captain for 5 bucks less then I'd buy a box of the normal bikes! what a great idea!
Unironically? Yes. A thousand times yes. I’ve had some unbuilt custodes bikers for years in part because I can’t think of a good way to convert the shield captain to be distinct when the model is already so ornate. They simply didn’t include any parts in the box to indicate one beyond the atom-thin “Uh, sometimes HQs don’t wear helmets?”
2020/08/28 01:41:48
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
MajorWesJanson wrote: I plan to grab several of the chaplain bikes. 2 chapters to give them too, and hopefully gw will make more biker characters, like captain and chaos lord, de archon, custodes shield captain, and ork warboss. At a minimum.
Erm - isn't the Custodes Shield Captain already covered by the jetbike kit as it is?
Yeah, but that’s absolutely no reason why it can’t also be covered by an extra-fancy stand-alone version at 2-3 times the price, is it?
ohh totally! I'd love to buy a stand alone captain for 5 bucks less then I'd buy a box of the normal bikes! what a great idea!
Unironically? Yes. A thousand times yes. I’ve had some unbuilt custodes bikers for years in part because I can’t think of a good way to convert the shield captain to be distinct when the model is already so ornate. They simply didn’t include any parts in the box to indicate one beyond the atom-thin “Uh, sometimes HQs don’t wear helmets?”
Maybe GW could release an upgrade pack.
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2020/08/28 15:18:27
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
changemod wrote: Unironically? Yes. A thousand times yes. I’ve had some unbuilt custodes bikers for years in part because I can’t think of a good way to convert the shield captain to be distinct when the model is already so ornate. They simply didn’t include any parts in the box to indicate one beyond the atom-thin “Uh, sometimes HQs don’t wear helmets?”
You could grab single FW custode bike - they are butt ugly compared to plastics (and FW custode paint scheme is frakking awful, they are blind if they think it looks like gold) but it does stand out nicely. Or that DA jet bike, it's cheaper and equally ornate and standing out option, with similar flowing robes style custodes have.
Platuan4th wrote: Because unlike all other articles GW includes ETB in, it wasn't stated to be ETB.
And? We know it exists because he was on leaked list of EtB kits. He might not be EtB himself but then his presence there would be weird and more reasonable guess is that it's in fact EtB or EtB-like kit.
Also, watch idiot rules writers not give it to Deathwatch AGAIN despite having common book now because pad is attached to arm by thin strip of plastic or other similar nonsense DW gets all the time
2020/09/04 17:47:53
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Novel "The Infinite and the Divine" is October 3rd, so betting on the Necron stuff starting then.
There's a series of Marine anthologies/novels on October 31st. Deathwatch and BA...so thinking they'll be the first supplements?
2020/09/04 19:24:57
Subject: Re:Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Or just those in the Indomitus box, given the rest of the index info and Edge Of Silence being the name of the pamphlet in the Indomitus box.
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2020/09/04 19:48:29
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
Heavy Destroyer upgrade kit is fully gone from the US webstore now. That seems to confirm for those that were still in doubt that the Lokhust Heave Destroyer kit is replacing it.
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tneva82 wrote: Yep odds of using new codex rules is astronomically low.
They've done battle report previews before like this, I remember the Lumineth one from earlier in the year. I don't think the chance is that low.
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That army book was already out...all rules known. I only need to turn my head couple degrees and i see the book. It's hardly same to have br of army whose army book is out than br of army books over month later out
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2020/09/04 20:16:36
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
tneva82 wrote: That army book was already out...all rules known. I only need to turn my head couple degrees and i see the book. It's hardly same to have br of army whose army book is out than br of army books over month later out
I must be misremebering, I thought the book was not out yet when that Batrep came out.
Sasori wrote: Heavy Destroyer upgrade kit is fully gone from the US webstore now. That seems to confirm for those that were still in doubt that the Lokhust Heave Destroyer kit is replacing it.
Thank the star gods for that The move to finecast was especially rough on that kit. Next big question is what happens to the regular Destroyers and the Lord?
2020/09/04 20:19:57
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
WD was out in june. Same as the box with the book. Battle report containing rules released same month isn't weird. That's the usual advertisement. Battle report using rules in future month release less so. As it is don't recall one.
Pretty much only possible scenario that could be so would be corona delay doing oddities. That's why I'm not saying it's flat out impossible. Just unlikely.
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2020/09/04 20:33:42
Subject: Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion
This video says codex preview and new minis on Saturday, idk if that means new new minis or just stuff that's already been glimpsed, hopefully it's new stuff
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