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Books to my local store delayed in the mail. Blah.

Anyone who got theirs able to tell me if the Forge World stuff (Canoptek Acanthrites, Tomb Stalkers, Tomb Sentinels, Night Shroud Bombers, and Sentry Pylons) made it into the book or if I need to wait for a Forge World one?

(I realize this isn't really news and rumors anymore, but what the hell, still might be a good place to ask)

No FW stuff is in the book, GW's not going to give to you for free something they could charge you double for.

Well, those Necron models aren't cheap then!

£29 for the warriors and £34.50 for the destroyers.

Considering you can get the Recruit Edition for £32.50 (Warriors) and the Elite Edition for £65 (Warriors and Destroyers), they seem a far better deal than buying either of those sets, especially if you can be bothered with the hassle of selling the marines and unwanted characters on!

Could maybe understand it if they were proper multi-part versions, but as it's the same models as the starter they seem very overpriced!

Tavis75 wrote:
£29 for the warriors and £34.50 for the destroyers.

AUD$77 and $90, respectively, over here. They're havin' a real fething laugh with these. I paid literally half that for my second set of Destroyers. Should'a bought more.

It is odd pricing, I guess GW just priced them without considering the multi-packs or they have considered the multipacks and figure anyone buying lots will be getting split kits off ebay and the like or the starter sets and selling the marines on; so they figure they'll profit more per sale. Heck with a second print of Indomitus going out there's still over 10 or so £45 Necorn halves on ebay right now and prices only go up to around £60-70 for sane prices.

Destroyers are at least not "too bad" as they are supposed to be elite. Warriors for push fit at that price I'd have thought 20 rather than 10 in the pack.


And yet the Hexmark character is at a normal character price for GW and the Doomstalker is a good price for a big stalking model.

Quietly gathers his three sets of Indomitus to his bosom

 Overread wrote:
Destroyers are at least not "too bad" as they are supposed to be elite.

Keep tellin' yourself that...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Quietly gathers his three sets of Indomitus to his bosom

You need more. More warriors, more destroyers


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Destroyers are at least not "too bad" as they are supposed to be elite.

Keep tellin' yourself that...

Well I did end up with 4 sets of Indomitus. I'll just have to look at warriors. At £30 new a set of Indomitus for 2 sets of warriors you can spend £60 and get spare skorpek, spare leaders; spare destroyers, spare reanimator - soo many spares!

While it does indeed make sense to purchase the starter sets, the new Necron warriors are still reasonable compared with the other standard kits in the GW range.

For example, the Banshees are £32.50 with only 3/4 of the sprue content and contains only 5 ladies, only one of which has any weapon options. In comparison, the necron warriors are £29 with 10 warriors, each with 2 weapon and head options, three scarab swarms and more than double the bases. Gamewise, the banshees will only get you 3 power, while the warriors & scarabs will fetch 7 power.

The warrior set is pretty good in that for a single box you get two units to field; troops and fast attack.

That said, the problem remains that the Recruit set contains an HQ Necron character( 11 power out of the box! ) for only £3.50 more. And thats not including the Primaris Lieutenant and assault marines - and the rest of the set's contents. There really is no reason for any player to purchase the necron warrior set at all, and will remain so until the current starter sets are discontinued...

...which makes me wonder if they will now change the starter sets annually as they had done with Kill Team and Warhammer Underworlds. Maybe 18 months from now they might give marines a rest( just hear me out! ) and go with Ad-mech( Imperium! ) & Genecults, or Tau & Chaos Marines( thats right "Marines"! Chill already! ).

SamusDrake wrote:
While it does indeed make sense to purchase the starter sets, the new Necron warriors are still reasonable compared with the other standard kits in the GW range.

For example, the Banshees are £32.50 with only 3/4 of the sprue content and contains only 5 ladies, only one of which has any weapon options. In comparison, the necron warriors are £29 with 10 warriors, each with 2 weapon and head options, three scarab swarms and more than double the bases. Gamewise, the banshees will only get you 3 power, while the warriors & scarabs will fetch 7 power.

That doesn't make the Necron cost reasonable. It just highlights how outrageous the Banshee cost is.

Yup, cannot help but feel those of us that bought multiple copies of Indomitus for personal use are the true winners here. 40 rrp Warriors for the cost of one rrp Indomitus box is daft. Thing is GW are still making plenty of money so it is not going to change.

It is also galling that it was only 12 odd months ago that the, in comparison, relatively reasonably priced Ossiarch Bone Reapers were released.

Tbh I'm shocked the Warriors aren't more expensive.
Don't get me wrong, they're still far too much, but I was expecting them to be more around Sisters of Battle or Chaos Space Marines levels of $$$

SamusDrake wrote:
That said, the problem remains that the Recruit set contains an HQ Necron character( 11 power out of the box! ) for only £3.50 more. And thats not including the Primaris Lieutenant and assault marines - and the rest of the set's contents. There really is no reason for any player to purchase the necron warrior set at all, and will remain so until the current starter sets are discontinued...

...which makes me wonder if they will now change the starter sets annually as they had done with Kill Team and Warhammer Underworlds. Maybe 18 months from now they might give marines a rest( just hear me out! ) and go with Ad-mech( Imperium! ) & Genecults, or Tau & Chaos Marines( thats right "Marines"! Chill already! ).

Agreed in your assessment. The Warriors box is priced for the long term. Even if they don’t change up the starter sets annually, we know in a few years they won’t be about, and the Warrior box still will be.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That doesn't make the Necron cost reasonable. It just highlights how outrageous the Banshee cost is.

It still holds up compared to the Harlequin Troupe set which is £25 and contains 5 troops and 1 HQ. The Troupe set is also 3/4 of the plastic of the Warrior set. Both of these sets provide basic troops and a secondary unit which are a HQ for the Harles and Fast Attack for the Warriors. As both of these kits contain two units and the warrior kit is new plastic and there is more of it, I honestly don't feel bad about it.

And you are right about the Banshees being too expensive, and is why I used them as an example. At best the Banshees are a £26.50 kit as they are comparable to the Troupe kit at £25, and we'll allow GW £1.50 for inflation. There is no way in hell that those Banshees are worth £7.50 inflation.

I do judge a kit price by its plastic content, only cutting slack for characters as they are likely to sell less units than the other types. The warrior plastic sprue( its actually two ) is roughly equal to a Starweaver kit at £25...so £1.50 inflation( being generous to GW here ) puts it up to £27.50...but the Starweaver kit comes with but a single clear-plastic base, while the Warrior kit contains 13 bases - 10x32mm and 3x40mm bases...

Put it this way, I find GW product in general to be outrageously expensive and are constantly moaning about price. I'm a born and bred penny pincher. But unlike the Banshees, honestly not feeling the injustice here.


EDIT: On that note...I might just put in an order for some more players and a 'Weaver or two!

Rather than banshees just look　at other 10 troop(ie core unit released). 35 for 10.

Necron wariors are very cheap compared to gw standard. "problem" is starter　sets being aggressively discounted to lure　in new blood but if gw drops warrior price too much difference to other 10 model troops becomes ridiculous.

Picked up my Necrons Codex, and I’m pleased with what I see from the Necrons so far. I’m excited about expanding my two sets of Indomitus!

I was looking in here because I thought we knew the price of the Void Dragon. Has that not been leaked or am I just missing it? Anyone know the price?

tneva82 wrote:
Necron wariors are very cheap compared to gw standard.

That's more an indictment of GW's standard prices than it is a celebration of the "cheaper" Necron Warriors.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Necron wariors are very cheap compared to gw standard.

That's more an indictment of GW's standard prices than it is a celebration of the "cheaper" Necron Warriors.

We're all there with you on that one, and because of the GW standard I wouldn't be surprised if most of us are resorting to discount with online retailers.

By habit of shopping online, when GW says £29 I instead see £23.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/11/sunday-preview-martian-souls/

Void dragoooon!

I fear the void dragon with scrape at £70 and the monolith at £90, looking forwards to some confirmation

Monolith I can certainly see going up in price. It's bigger than it was before (or at least more complex) and its game role has shifted to be closer to the Oblisk in nature. Indeed the codex makes note the Obilisk is an air superiority unit so the Monolith is the ground superiority.

Prices on them are hard to guess, but I'd be very shocked if either breached £100.

Wraiths I'm guessing will hit at £35 or so £30 if we are lucky.

Yep I’m scared too haha. I am kind of hoping they aren’t more than the Silent King, but the more they hype a model, the more I feel like it’s gonna get a big price tag, so mr Void Dragon is gonna be a pricey mofo.

I don't think the Void Dragon is going to be as much. His base size after looking at the pictures in the codex may be smaller than Initially thought.

The Monolith though? Who knows. Especially since they tend to put a premium on LoWs.

Void dragon is only one of interest. Price point is interesting ond

Just a question about the new codices - do they have new art and fluff, or is it just recycled from the 8th edition codices?

Maybe it's a question for a different thread, but: has anyone found any use or purpose for the Hammerfall bunker?
It's basically a static tank with BS 4+, two glorified lascannon shots/a souped up blast assault cannon and a gimmicky rule for shooting against a few units achieving nothing (3 HB shots per unit in range). A Predator Annihilator with HBs seems way more attractive.
No interesting special rule. No transport capacity. No stratagem interaction.
As an IF player I hate to hate that unit.

DanielFM wrote:
Maybe it's a question for a different thread, but: has anyone found any use or purpose for the Hammerfall bunker?
It's basically a static tank with BS 4+, two glorified lascannon shots/a souped up blast assault cannon and a gimmicky rule for shooting against a few units achieving nothing (3 HB shots per unit in range). A Predator Annihilator with HBs seems way more attractive.
No interesting special rule. No transport capacity. No stratagem interaction.
As an IF player I hate to hate that unit.

well at least DA armies will have them hitting on 3s

DanielFM wrote:
Maybe it's a question for a different thread, but: has anyone found any use or purpose for the Hammerfall bunker?
It's basically a static tank with BS 4+, two glorified lascannon shots/a souped up blast assault cannon and a gimmicky rule for shooting against a few units achieving nothing (3 HB shots per unit in range). A Predator Annihilator with HBs seems way more attractive.
No interesting special rule. No transport capacity. No stratagem interaction.
As an IF player I hate to hate that unit.

If it could use the land speeder target designator like the whirlwind can, it might have had a chance.

Maybe they forgot that they were meant to give it Deep Strike rules.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe they forgot that they were meant to give it Deep Strike rules.

Seems highly unlikely. Considering it can shoot at every eligible unit, every turn? If it could Deep Strike, it would be way too powerful if you allowed it to get a central board position. And having that kind of threat means you'd be forced into getting a 9" bubble on any important locations by turn 2.