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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe they forgot that they were meant to give it Deep Strike rules.

Or maybe they forgot to give it "shoots with no LOS required".
It basically looks like a beefy Whirlwind.

I’m still sad the Monolith doesn’t use the huge amounts of Blackstone it has. Seems like a bit of a wasted opportunity there.

Also, how much are these gonna cost? When do peeps normally post that info?

DanielFM wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe they forgot that they were meant to give it Deep Strike rules.

Or maybe they forgot to give it "shoots with no LOS required".
It basically looks like a beefy Whirlwind.

my guess is they where going to give it deep strike and then play testing revealed how broken a deep striking unit that "can shoot at everything it sees" is. they then removed deep strike instead of "shoots all it sees"

BrianDavion wrote:

DanielFM wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe they forgot that they were meant to give it Deep Strike rules.

Or maybe they forgot to give it "shoots with no LOS required".
It basically looks like a beefy Whirlwind.

my guess is they where going to give it deep strike and then play testing revealed how broken a deep striking unit that "can shoot at everything it sees" is. they then removed deep strike instead of "shoots all it sees"

The only part that shoots at everything is a heavy bolter that hits on 4+. Is hardly call that broken if it deep struck.

Hopefully we'll get some prices today (I think they usually sneak out on Mondays), personally I'm thinking somewhere around £65 for the Void Dragon, but expecting the Monolith to pass the £100 mark, unless they've done some really clever stuff then it looks like it's going to need a lot of plastic, due to all the overlapping layers and the amount of detail. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised though!

From bolter & chainsword:

Prices in pounds


Monolith 105
Ophydians 34.5
Bunker 35
Techmarine 23.50
Cron scenery 35
Void dragon 68

Monolith over £100 - colour me surprised! Are those their prices or the GW prices, if they are GW at least 3rd party the Monolith gets under £100, but still that's a LOT!

Void Dragon is about where I'd expect, same for the Scenery and the Ophydians.

 Overread wrote:
Monolith over £100 - colour me surprised! Are those their prices or the GW prices, if they are GW at least 3rd party the Monolith gets under £100, but still that's a LOT!

Void Dragon is about where I'd expect, same for the Scenery and the Ophydians.

The monolith is sized and ruled to be in competition with the obelisk/vault so I'm not shocked overly, I thought it might be 95 rather than 105 though.

Aye I'm not surprised at it having a high price point, but like you I was thinking sub £100. More in the £80-95 bracket.

Not fussed by the Monolith price. It’s a Super Heavy, and we’re told it’s substantially larger than its predecessor.

But the Void Dragon just feels.....odd. £68 is just unexpected, and peculiarly precise. Why not £65 or £70?

I mean, I’m still getting both in due course. And my lass did ask what I wanted for Christmas...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not fussed by the Monolith price. It’s a Super Heavy, and we’re told it’s substantially larger than its predecessor.

But the Void Dragon just feels.....odd. £68 is just unexpected, and peculiarly precise. Why not £65 or £70?

I mean, I’m still getting both in due course. And my lass did ask what I wanted for Christmas...

I’m not going to complain about the Void Dragon price, a lot less than I expected so I’m happy.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not fussed by the Monolith price. It’s a Super Heavy, and we’re told it’s substantially larger than its predecessor.

But the Void Dragon just feels.....odd. £68 is just unexpected, and peculiarly precise. Why not £65 or £70?

I mean, I’m still getting both in due course. And my lass did ask what I wanted for Christmas...

It's same price as lumineth big cow. And yeah why not　70? 65 is less so easy to see why not that.

Wow. Using the Lumineth stuff for the conversion rate...

Void Dragon - $110
Monolith - $170


Void Dragon is right where I expected, but that monolith is expensive...

 Tiberius501 wrote:
The only part that shoots at everything is a heavy bolter that hits on 4+. Is hardly call that broken if it deep struck.

I'd imagine whoever plays Tau at GW vetoed it. Drop it next to Tau castle and watch flow, it would be amusing counter to all the spam of 54759 units of broken drones deleting shooting of whole armies if that thing could threaten them all at once...

Excuse the pun, but I hope the Monolith tanks and they are forced to review both the LoW listing and the price. What a way to mess up an iconic unit

I expected the Void Dragon around 110.

The Terrain is cheaper than I expected too, I figured it would be around the 100 USD mark.

The Monolith though... I was not expecting it to be that expensive. Teclis level for it it is pretty insane.

 Sasori wrote:
I expected the Void Dragon around 110.

The Terrain is cheaper than I expected too, I figured it would be around the 100 USD mark.

The Monolith though... I was not expecting it to be that expensive. Teclis level for it it is pretty insane.

Wait, it’s not the same cost as Teclis is it? Damn I thought it was less than him, that is pretty painful.

Cynista wrote:
Excuse the pun, but I hope the Monolith tanks and they are forced to review both the LoW listing and the price. What a way to mess up an iconic unit

Not gonna happen my dude.

I still think, even as a LoW, it seems like a good unit. For just a little more points than a Repulsor it brings a hell of a lot more. So an extra 3CP just means take a couple less relics and it doesn’t seem too bad. Might not be the best unit ever, but it doesn’t seem bad.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
The only part that shoots at everything is a heavy bolter that hits on 4+. Is hardly call that broken if it deep struck.

30 heavy bolters is not broken?
See, the thing is, this just scales terrible and should never, ever have been created.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
I still think, even as a LoW, it seems like a good unit. For just a little more points than a Repulsor it brings a hell of a lot more. So an extra 3CP just means take a couple less relics and it doesn’t seem too bad. Might not be the best unit ever, but it doesn’t seem bad.

Not having Fly and not benefiting from Dynasty Codes is a pretty massive nerf. You can take the T. Vault for more points, that doesn't benefit from Dynasty codes anyway, but is actually really good now.

If the bunker could deep strike I would totally give it Flamers and take it.

Come on GW, gimme Heavy Intercessors

 Billagio wrote:
Come on GW, gimme Heavy Intercessors

I'm guessing that GW is using all this extra time to bump up the manufacturing for the SM stuff. Even the Lokhust Heavy sold out in the US and the UK.

 Sasori wrote:

 Billagio wrote:
Come on GW, gimme Heavy Intercessors

I'm guessing that GW is using all this extra time to bump up the manufacturing for the SM stuff. Even the Lokhust Heavy sold out in the US and the UK.

the chapl;ain on bike sold out fast for something thats not LE

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe they forgot that they were meant to give it Deep Strike rules.

It doesn't need Deep Strike, it has Derp Strike.

The Void Dragon has really grown on me. Multiple heads are awesome, the fact it has a canoptek construct on its back with claws aimed at the neck is a cool touch, etc.

Wait, if the C'tan is actually the crystal in its chest, why would it care if the construct stabs it in the neck?

 GaroRobe wrote:


The Void Dragon has really grown on me. Multiple heads are awesome, the fact it has a canoptek construct on its back with claws aimed at the neck is a cool touch, etc.

I just don't get option 3, I understand it's got a jewel for a face, the little puckered lips on its head really ruin it for me.

Dudeface wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:


The Void Dragon has really grown on me. Multiple heads are awesome, the fact it has a canoptek construct on its back with claws aimed at the neck is a cool touch, etc.

I just don't get option 3, I understand it's got a jewel for a face, the little puckered lips on its head really ruin it for me.

The little tips/horns at the top of the head? I think they all have it, but you just can't see them behind the swirly magic