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the_scotsman wrote:

 Laughing Man wrote:

How are you getting 14,out of curiosity? The best I can figure for an assault intercessors is 6, 12 when fighting twice.

Also Kharn has 14. :p

Sarge (3) Chainsword (1) echoes (1) Shock assault (1) Black Rage (1) and fight twice.

Death Company don't have sergeants.

Wakshaani wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
Did you miss the 1CP army wide stratagem mate?

Did you miss the caveats on it?

-Only usable during Assault Doctrine
-Only triggers on unmodified 6s to Wound

It's strong, but it doesn't seem OMGBROKEN!!11!

Also only once per game, so better time it just right.

But, Wak, it *doesn't say* "...per game" therefore Rules-As-Written, it *must* be interpreted as once... ever. In your entire 40k career.

Catulle wrote:

Wakshaani wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
Did you miss the 1CP army wide stratagem mate?

Did you miss the caveats on it?

-Only usable during Assault Doctrine
-Only triggers on unmodified 6s to Wound

It's strong, but it doesn't seem OMGBROKEN!!11!

Also only once per game, so better time it just right.

But, Wak, it *doesn't say* "...per game" therefore Rules-As-Written, it *must* be interpreted as once... ever. In your entire 40k career.

Cue the inevitable YMDC thread with some people arguing just that...

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Having 3+WS/BS on other Daemon Engines would be incredible

WS3+ would just be amazing on its own.

Imagine a world where Daemon Engines are better at hitting things in HTH combat than Guardsmen.

Dudeface wrote:

 puma713 wrote:
Notice that the MBH has 9 wounds, which means it could have a bracket and is no longer taken in groups of 3. Possibly.

Brackets start at 10 without exception so far I think?

And always appear on the datasheet. I give it a 99.99% chance there are no brackets for the MBH.

Still, nice bit of upgrades, including the upgraded Multi-Melta for those expecting the worst.

I don't think ive seen anything with brackets with 9 or below so far. Seems pretty solid indicator.

I’m hearing allocations on the Gladiator again. Only getting two per store. One set of dice. Eight books.

I like the stat improvement on the MBH, so far I am pleased. I will be less so if they can't squad up still as I have enough for a couple squads just to get the bonus to hit. I don't care if they don't get a bonus though, means they can be in teams of two but they were my game plan to move up with my marines to give the stink cloud support and covering fire.

GW, just this once, treat me right and don't give me the smack down for actually buying things.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Having 3+WS/BS on other Daemon Engines would be incredible

WS3+ would just be amazing on its own.

Imagine a world where Daemon Engines are better at hitting things in HTH combat than Guardsmen.

I don't need to imagine, the future may be now.

 AduroT wrote:
I’m hearing allocations on the Gladiator again. Only getting two per store. One set of dice. Eight books.

Overpriced, overpointed and limited stock.
Knocking this one out of the park!

MBH going to 3+ and up to 9 wounds would be nice. Makes it less punishing to lose one in a squad and makes it easier to spread around units of 1 for the cover bonus. I'm pleased with this although I fear they might be getting a hefty price hike.

In all honesty everyone can have all of my potential gladiators. I had pondered one but at the cost they are going to be ? Heck no. The prices are getting just a bit too crazy for me these days. They had been before but they just keep rising, makes me wonder when you'll be paying 100 USD for a rhino and people will say " It's pure value ".


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 Castozor wrote:
MBH going to 3+ and up to 9 wounds would be nice. Makes it less punishing to lose one in a squad and makes it easier to spread around units of 1 for the cover bonus. I'm pleased with this although I fear they might be getting a hefty price hike.

I hope they don't raise in points too much, could see the kit going up in money cost, as is its actually a good buy and you know GW won't let that stand for much longer. Especially if they actually got better.

 AngryAngel80 wrote:
I like the stat improvement on the MBH, so far I am pleased. I will be less so if they can't squad up still as I have enough for a couple squads just to get the bonus to hit. I don't care if they don't get a bonus though, means they can be in teams of two but they were my game plan to move up with my marines to give the stink cloud support and covering fire.

GW, just this once, treat me right and don't give me the smack down for actually buying things.

That statblock is looking rather like a Dreadnought (a really fast dreadnought). I wouldn't be surprised if they went solo, either per slot or via a split into units at deployment method.

I don't mind if they end up like a leman russ and you buy them together and they roll solo at deployment, that is fine. I just don't want dead models in my collection. They made them before to roll as a group, would be pretty shameful to then dial it back and make purchases pointless.

I'm not going to panic fear monger but I'm hoping for the best.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

Catulle wrote:

Wakshaani wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
Did you miss the 1CP army wide stratagem mate?

Did you miss the caveats on it?

-Only usable during Assault Doctrine
-Only triggers on unmodified 6s to Wound

It's strong, but it doesn't seem OMGBROKEN!!11!

Also only once per game, so better time it just right.

But, Wak, it *doesn't say* "...per game" therefore Rules-As-Written, it *must* be interpreted as once... ever. In your entire 40k career.

Cue the inevitable YMDC thread with some people arguing just that...

Truly, the Imperium is the fate we deserve

 AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't mind if they end up like a leman russ and you buy them together and they roll solo at deployment, that is fine. I just don't want dead models in my collection. They made them before to roll as a group, would be pretty shameful to then dial it back and make purchases pointless.

My Aeldari Airwing would agree.

Hey anyone they do that to has right to complain. Could you imagine if they took squadron away from the leman russ ? How many redundant tanks would most guard players have ? Or take it away from Valks ? That would make me cry even more.

I also like the idea of not being locked into bringing full sets of 3, so you could bring 2 or 4 of them.

Not being forced for 3 to hit better than a guard is good stuff. So hope they at least keep bought as squads of 3, even if they have them fielded individual. That would even be ideal for the stink cloud net and spreading it out as far as you can.

Even if they need to squad, being able to run 3x1 or 2x2 allows you to support more squads for less points.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Imagine a world where Daemon Engines are better at hitting things in HTH combat than Guardsmen.

Yup, imagine a world where funny looking roomba with silly legs and short teeth in bad position is somehow better at hitting things than a veteran soldier

 AngryAngel80 wrote:
Hey anyone they do that to has right to complain. Could you imagine if they took squadron away from the leman russ ? How many redundant tanks would most guard players have ? Or take it away from Valks ? That would make me cry even more.

Can you imagine if they took an army, invalidated nearly every single infantry squad it had, nerfed every single weapon besides basic boltgun into the ground invalidating half of infantry squads even harder, then took extremely limited special wargear the army had and made it nearly impossible to take invalidating infantry from third angle?

Oh wait, you don't need to imagine, because that's what clueless idiot writer did to Deathwatch. I find it funny now that people were afraid of it being blanderized into oblivion by making it part of Codex: SM because writer managed to destroy all the fun it had on his own and the Codex inclusion was in fact the only thing that kept the faction afloat...

It's like someone took Eldar, buffed Guardians somewhat but then nerfed all Aspect Warriors and wraiths into the ground, limited psykers to 1 per army and deleted shuriken weapons from everything but Guardians

Those "short teeth" are almost the same length as that veteran's soldiers arms.

I also really think that this "my army got hit by something bad, so everyone else deserves to be punished" attitude needs to go away. It is extremely toxic and adds absolutely nothing but hostility to this forum.

If your army got something (or everything) taken away, I'm sorry for your loss and feel free to complain about it. Being a xenos player, I do understand how you feel about it and honestly wish that GW would stop trashing people's armies for no reason.
But if you are getting vindictive and wish for other people's army being hit by disaster as well? What the hell is wrong with you?

Not just targeted at you, Irbis, there are many people acting like this recently. This is directed at all of you.

Hey I hear ya. A number of my squads got turned around and upside down in the last Deathwatch supplement. I wasn't very pleased with some of the changes, it just felt sort of strange and I don't enjoy what they did with the frag cannon, which I loved and got many of, even if it was a point sink, now only to find them ok. Really I could complain in great detail, I'm just hoping they don't bone me over with my deathguard stuff.

I am working to bring them deathwatch up to make sense but it'll take some cash to get the squads made right and even then some models won't end up being taken. I get what they wanted to do with the book, I just wish it didn't screw over my setups and make their units kind of bland in the process.

 Irbis wrote:
Yup, imagine a world where funny looking roomba with silly legs and short teeth in bad position is somehow better at hitting things than a veteran soldier

You can't possibly be that clueless Irbis (despite your persistent attempts to prove otherwise). There are more Daemon Engines than just that, and you know it.

Stop posting just to hear the sound of your own typing.

I don't think the MBH looks like a roomba, as a side note.

I would totally buy a roomba that looks like a MBH though.

 AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't think the MBH looks like a roomba, as a side note.

MBH is probably one of the best GW designed Daemonengines, especially because the "fleshy bits" fit DG. Whilest the front maintains a rather mechanical look.

Allbeit as a concept it's basically the Portal turret but nurglyfied , atleast it kinda reminds me of it




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 Jidmah wrote:
I would totally buy a roomba that looks like a MBH though.

Flat is better, because you can witness cats ride flat ones. And everybody knows the only thing better then a squig rider is a cat riding something.

 Jidmah wrote:
I would totally buy a roomba that looks like a MBH though.

... ya know I would do.... do you think if we started a letter writing campaign to GW customer service they'd put it in the Warhammer swag store?

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I would totally buy a roomba that looks like a MBH though.

... ya know I would do.... do you think if we started a letter writing campaign to GW customer service they'd put it in the Warhammer swag store?

What about a squig one?

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I would totally buy a roomba that looks like a MBH though.

... ya know I would do.... do you think if we started a letter writing campaign to GW customer service they'd put it in the Warhammer swag store?

What about a squig one?

how about an entire line of them,

a space Marine rhino one,
a DG MBC
A Ork Squiq
A sister of battle Exorcist
...

BrianDavion wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I would totally buy a roomba that looks like a MBH though.

... ya know I would do.... do you think if we started a letter writing campaign to GW customer service they'd put it in the Warhammer swag store?

What about a squig one?

how about an entire line of them,

a space Marine rhino one,
a DG MBC
A Ork Squiq
A sister of battle Exorcist
...

Allbeit i dread the prices GW would demand for them / licenscing