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2020/08/09 18:22:28
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
Well they aren't they are just more units for the most bloated codex's in the game.
That aside Primaris still has more kits in their "incomplete range" than Drukari have lived with for howmany years.
Think they also have more units than Tau, GSC, Maybe Nids.
Don't think Ork's but it's close.
2020/08/09 18:24:12
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
Well they aren't they are just more units for the most bloated codex's in the game.
That aside Primaris still has more kits in their "incomplete range" than Drukari have lived with for howmany years.
Think they also have more units than Tau, GSC, Maybe Nids.
Don't think Ork's but it's close.
If Primaris get to be their own army, why can't my Nurgle Daemons be their own army?
Clocks for the clockmaker! Cogs for the cog throne!
2020/08/09 18:28:17
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
Well they aren't they are just more units for the most bloated codex's in the game.
That aside Primaris still has more kits in their "incomplete range" than Drukari have lived with for howmany years.
Think they also have more units than Tau, GSC, Maybe Nids.
Don't think Ork's but it's close.
If Primaris get to be their own army, why can't my Nurgle Daemons be their own army?
No idea dude Ptimaris defender's having to come up with new ways of moving the goalposts to justify the 3rd year of you Have more Broken Primaris BS.
2020/08/09 18:34:03
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
Well they aren't they are just more units for the most bloated codex's in the game.
That aside Primaris still has more kits in their "incomplete range" than Drukari have lived with for howmany years.
Think they also have more units than Tau, GSC, Maybe Nids.
Don't think Ork's but it's close.
If Primaris get to be their own army, why can't my Nurgle Daemons be their own army?
No idea dude Ptimaris defender's having to come up with new ways of moving the goalposts to justify the 3rd year of you Have more Broken Primaris BS.
Since we're still in the first year of marines being too good, you might want to revise that.
2020/08/09 18:37:32
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
No idea dude Ptimaris defender's having to come up with new ways of moving the goalposts to justify the 3rd year of you Have more Broken Primaris BS.
LOL, I'm not a defender I just hate bs. It was broken for 6 months and the COVID hit and no one got to process the changes before 9th came out. Now we're waiting for the actual codex to put everything for marines into context. This release schedule is not very different than the one they did with AoS and Stormcast.
Nurgle Daemons can be their own army when you can think of enough kits to make that viable and still keep it fluffy.
2020/08/09 18:44:29
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Since we're still in the first year of marines being too good, you might want to revise that.
You assumed I ment OP, they break every piece of marine fluff since 2nd edition.
Primaris is like taking a Beetles album, recording it with some Kpop Group and then saying your only allowed to listen to the Kpop version going forward.
It's how you break the fans love for your IP.
2020/08/09 19:06:57
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Since we're still in the first year of marines being too good, you might want to revise that.
You assumed I ment OP, they break every piece of marine fluff since 2nd edition.
Primaris is like taking a Beetles album, recording it with some Kpop Group and then saying your only allowed to listen to the Kpop version going forward.
It's how you break the fans love for your IP.
Depends if you like Kpop, clearly primaris is reasonably well received overall and popular with hobbyists, even when they were utter turd game wise they were still widely liked.
It's all subjective.
2020/08/09 19:31:06
Subject: Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
You could just do every primaris kit except it has three nurglings on top of each other inside one armor
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks do not think that purple makes them harder to see. They do think that camouflage does however, without knowing why. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
2020/08/09 19:48:34
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Daedalus81 wrote: 3D printing would have to be in vogue for more than just wargaming to be cheap like ink printers are now. But given the required technical ability it will remain a niche industry. Sure, wargamers will tend to own them more frequently than the general population, but the effort it'd take to print a squad will still be much more than the instant gratification of driving to the store and having something ready to go.
If 3D printers became so good and easy to use I could see GW selling them and licensing out model files, but that's a really good long time from now.
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
2020/08/09 19:52:47
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Daedalus81 wrote: 3D printing would have to be in vogue for more than just wargaming to be cheap like ink printers are now. But given the required technical ability it will remain a niche industry. Sure, wargamers will tend to own them more frequently than the general population, but the effort it'd take to print a squad will still be much more than the instant gratification of driving to the store and having something ready to go.
If 3D printers became so good and easy to use I could see GW selling them and licensing out model files, but that's a really good long time from now.
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
They don't have a flyer or super heavy if you want to nitpick.
2020/08/09 19:55:47
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Daedalus81 wrote: 3D printing would have to be in vogue for more than just wargaming to be cheap like ink printers are now. But given the required technical ability it will remain a niche industry. Sure, wargamers will tend to own them more frequently than the general population, but the effort it'd take to print a squad will still be much more than the instant gratification of driving to the store and having something ready to go.
If 3D printers became so good and easy to use I could see GW selling them and licensing out model files, but that's a really good long time from now.
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
They don't have a flyer or super heavy if you want to nitpick.
Daedalus81 wrote: 3D printing would have to be in vogue for more than just wargaming to be cheap like ink printers are now. But given the required technical ability it will remain a niche industry. Sure, wargamers will tend to own them more frequently than the general population, but the effort it'd take to print a squad will still be much more than the instant gratification of driving to the store and having something ready to go.
If 3D printers became so good and easy to use I could see GW selling them and licensing out model files, but that's a really good long time from now.
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
They don't have a flyer or super heavy if you want to nitpick.
Daedalus81 wrote: 3D printing would have to be in vogue for more than just wargaming to be cheap like ink printers are now. But given the required technical ability it will remain a niche industry. Sure, wargamers will tend to own them more frequently than the general population, but the effort it'd take to print a squad will still be much more than the instant gratification of driving to the store and having something ready to go.
If 3D printers became so good and easy to use I could see GW selling them and licensing out model files, but that's a really good long time from now.
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
They don't have a flyer or super heavy if you want to nitpick.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
I think they're mostly complete now. There's enough to give them splash releases or another box in the future. That and the large amount of models not in multipart kits. I'm sure GW can surprise us though.
2020/08/09 20:47:12
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Daedalus81 wrote: 3D printing would have to be in vogue for more than just wargaming to be cheap like ink printers are now. But given the required technical ability it will remain a niche industry. Sure, wargamers will tend to own them more frequently than the general population, but the effort it'd take to print a squad will still be much more than the instant gratification of driving to the store and having something ready to go.
If 3D printers became so good and easy to use I could see GW selling them and licensing out model files, but that's a really good long time from now.
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
They don't have a flyer or super heavy if you want to nitpick.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
I think they're mostly complete now. There's enough to give them splash releases or another box in the future. That and the large amount of models not in multipart kits. I'm sure GW can surprise us though.
Thanks for the honest answer. Here's hoping that gw shares that opinion and starts paying attention to someone else. Hopefully the update for Necrons is a sign of things to come.
2020/08/09 21:18:26
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Daedalus81 wrote: 3D printing would have to be in vogue for more than just wargaming to be cheap like ink printers are now. But given the required technical ability it will remain a niche industry. Sure, wargamers will tend to own them more frequently than the general population, but the effort it'd take to print a squad will still be much more than the instant gratification of driving to the store and having something ready to go.
If 3D printers became so good and easy to use I could see GW selling them and licensing out model files, but that's a really good long time from now.
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
They don't have a flyer or super heavy if you want to nitpick.
They are supposed to be the best swordsmen in the company of marines. They are part of the command squad that every captain has along side the company ancient. Game wise they are minor characters that specialize in dueling other characters. There is an old marine version but no primaris version.
They aren't hugely important models but they are listed as being present in every codex compliant chapter. So one would assume primaris only chapters in the fluff have them.
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2020/08/09 21:25:05
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Daedalus81 wrote: 3D printing would have to be in vogue for more than just wargaming to be cheap like ink printers are now. But given the required technical ability it will remain a niche industry. Sure, wargamers will tend to own them more frequently than the general population, but the effort it'd take to print a squad will still be much more than the instant gratification of driving to the store and having something ready to go.
If 3D printers became so good and easy to use I could see GW selling them and licensing out model files, but that's a really good long time from now.
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
They don't have a flyer or super heavy if you want to nitpick.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
I think they're mostly complete now. There's enough to give them splash releases or another box in the future. That and the large amount of models not in multipart kits. I'm sure GW can surprise us though.
Thanks for the honest answer. Here's hoping that gw shares that opinion and starts paying attention to someone else. Hopefully the update for Necrons is a sign of things to come.
Because if it's not plastic you can't get it in their stores mostly, so I always precieved that GW don't consider FW when looking at an arms range. There's also still a large number of "omg FW ban it!!!!!" people out there.
2020/08/09 21:42:53
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Gadzilla666 wrote: Thanks for the honest answer. Here's hoping that gw shares that opinion and starts paying attention to someone else. Hopefully the update for Necrons is a sign of things to come.
I would say GW is paying attention to other factions.
Model/Unit releases that I cared to look up for 8th edition which are NOT Space Marines:
Orks: 12
Custodes: 5
Mechanicus: 12
Eldar: 4
GSC: 17
Tau: 1
Sororitas: 27
Chaos combined: 77 - (Maybe GW should tone down the Chaos related releases to make room for less supported factions )
Some are the same unit with different weapons, some are single troop leaders, some are from these "Heroes booster packs" or whatever.
Necrons overhaul is right around the corner with a bucketload of new miniatures.
New "lieutenant" style heroes for several factions have been teased officially.
I think people are more biased than they should be - given the numbers - against Marines because they seem to get something every other month
Daedalus81 wrote: 3D printing would have to be in vogue for more than just wargaming to be cheap like ink printers are now. But given the required technical ability it will remain a niche industry. Sure, wargamers will tend to own them more frequently than the general population, but the effort it'd take to print a squad will still be much more than the instant gratification of driving to the store and having something ready to go.
If 3D printers became so good and easy to use I could see GW selling them and licensing out model files, but that's a really good long time from now.
I think people think Primaris are an extension of marines when they should really be thought of as their own army -- and that army is unfinished unlike most others. We're probably looking at Sons of Behemat for AoS after we clear the Indomitus bottleneck. Then it's probably almost time for the holidays.
....god what a year. It has gone by far too quickly.
How exactly are primaris incomplete as an army after these latest releases? What do they lack that other armies don't? Or are you just comparing them to the old loyalist line? Which, I might remind you, is already far more complete than most other armies.
They don't have a flyer or super heavy if you want to nitpick.
Good point I tend to forget that's meant to be primaris, but they're still lacking a core GW plastic superheavy alongside a few other factions.
What difference does it make whether or not it's plastic? Especially considering several factions lack super heavys period?
Because if it's not plastic you can't get it in their stores mostly, so I always precieved that GW don't consider FW when looking at an arms range. There's also still a large number of "omg FW ban it!!!!!" people out there.
Good points. Gw should consider fw if they are going to sell the models and give them rules, and those "OMG, FW, ban it!!!" folks are misinformed. I'd like to see them point out a single Forge World super heavy that outperforms its plastic counterparts on a points vs points basis. CA has been extremely unkind to resin super heavys, though the Astreus has been handed with kids gloves compared to the rest, probably due to it's "primaris" status. And even then I would argue it's still somewhat overpriced, just not as much as the rest.
2020/08/09 21:56:08
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Gadzilla666 wrote: Thanks for the honest answer. Here's hoping that gw shares that opinion and starts paying attention to someone else. Hopefully the update for Necrons is a sign of things to come.
I would say GW is paying attention to other factions.
Model/Unit releases that I cared to look up for 8th edition which are NOT Space Marines:
Orks: 12
Custodes: 5
Mechanicus: 12
Eldar: 4
GSC: 17
Tau: 1
Sororitas: 27
Chaos combined: 77 - (Maybe GW should tone down the Chaos related releases to make room for less supported factions )
Some are the same unit with different weapons, some are single troop leaders, some are from these "Heroes booster packs" or whatever.
Necrons overhaul is right around the corner with a bucketload of new miniatures.
New "lieutenant" style heroes for several factions have been teased officially.
I think people are more biased than they should be - given the numbers - against Marines because they seem to get something every other month
Cute. But if you're going to combine chaos into one grouping shouldn't you do the same for Imperials? So 119. If you expect me to consider a Nurgle daemon to be a release that pertains to my Night Lords then it seems only fair to do the same by considering a new Tech Priest as a release that pertains to Space Wolves.
And I don't know how you think those pitiful numbers for Xenos factions helps your argument.
2020/08/09 22:21:38
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Chaos is now one faction supposedly and has 77 Releases whilest sm alone have 75 and Chaos should stop?
Not to mention Tau,orks etc?!?
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2020/08/09 23:28:50
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Gadzilla666 wrote: Thanks for the honest answer. Here's hoping that gw shares that opinion and starts paying attention to someone else. Hopefully the update for Necrons is a sign of things to come.
I would say GW is paying attention to other factions.
Model/Unit releases that I cared to look up for 8th edition which are NOT Space Marines:
Orks: 12
Custodes: 5
Mechanicus: 12
Eldar: 4
GSC: 17
Tau: 1
Sororitas: 27
Chaos combined: 77 - (Maybe GW should tone down the Chaos related releases to make room for less supported factions )
Some are the same unit with different weapons, some are single troop leaders, some are from these "Heroes booster packs" or whatever.
Necrons overhaul is right around the corner with a bucketload of new miniatures.
New "lieutenant" style heroes for several factions have been teased officially.
I think people are more biased than they should be - given the numbers - against Marines because they seem to get something every other month
I just had to check this, whilst also going back a bit in time:
Miniatures released so far during 6th, 7th, 8th Ed (so since June 2012)
Space Marines: 170 +16 so far in 9th
Chaos Space Marines: 67
Chaos Demons: 42
Genestealer Cult:34
Orks:30
Necron:7 + 15 so far in 9th
Adeptus Mechanicus:21
Eldar:20
Tau:20
Tyranids:18
Astra Militarum:18
Chaos Knights/Imperial Knights:10
Adeptus Custodes:8
Harlequins:8
Drukhari:7
Grey Knights:1
Adepta Sororitas:?
I rest my case I mean Grey Knights getting one new model in 8 years and Space Marines getting 186...
Gadzilla666 wrote: Cute. But if you're going to combine chaos into one grouping shouldn't you do the same for Imperials? So 119. If you expect me to consider a Nurgle daemon to be a release that pertains to my Night Lords then it seems only fair to do the same by considering a new Tech Priest as a release that pertains to Space Wolves.
And I don't know how you think those pitiful numbers for Xenos factions helps your argument.
The Necrons have less than 20 new releases that we've seen so far. And this is supposed to be a range refresh. Primaris are almost a third of the 230 releases in 8th. There is a reason why GW has made them their own grand alliance equivalent on their web store. And going back to 6th, it's 186/540, that's over a third.
Daedalus81 wrote: 3D printing would have to be in vogue for more than just wargaming to be cheap like ink printers are now. But given the required technical ability it will remain a niche industry. Sure, wargamers will tend to own them more frequently than the general population, but the effort it'd take to print a squad will still be much more than the instant gratification of driving to the store and having something ready to go.
If 3D printers became so good and easy to use I could see GW selling them and licensing out model files, but that's a really good long time from now.
I've 3d printed a few OOPFW bits, a vehicle, and some non-GW acolytes with a $300 printer and the cheapest PLA filament I could find, not much more than a good ink printer. Humanoid models come out terrible. It is impossible to get the supports right, especially on the face. You would need to use some kind of automated, liquid/vibration-based support remover, but at that point you are looking at thousand dollar setups. Vehicles, on the other hand, come out great. Rivets are the most complex detail they usually have; granted I was using copies of mid-2000s sculpts. Shoulder pads also come out well, and weapons are a bit mixed, the larger the better. I just used a file and knife to clean up the bits and they aren't off-putting when painted, but you can definitely tell they are 3d printed. All in all, I would say it was no harder than building my first mini several years ago and certainly took less in-person time too.
As for the business model, if GW starts selling model files, that will take a huge chunk out of their business. There is no way they can charge the kind of premiums they do for STL files. To be honest, I am not very confident in the company's future.
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2020/08/10 00:30:49
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Good point I tend to forget that's meant to be primaris, but they're still lacking a core GW plastic superheavy alongside a few other factions.
Space Marines themselves don't even have a plastic Superheavy.
By design. It's one of the areas where I hope the background sticks, and keeps GW from indulging in another poorly thought out release.
Oh I agree. Just goes to show a miniature line can be more than complete without one.
(Imo the Leviathan is too "heavy" for Space Marines).
For loyalists maybe, but not for actual Legionnaires.
I'd actually agree with that too. Chaos marines should be far more open ended with their war equipment, as they can't rely on other branches to pick up any slack, and are also unbound by any rules. If I ever bought a Leviathan model, it'd go to my Chaos collection.
Good point I tend to forget that's meant to be primaris, but they're still lacking a core GW plastic superheavy alongside a few other factions.
Space Marines themselves don't even have a plastic Superheavy.
By design. It's one of the areas where I hope the background sticks, and keeps GW from indulging in another poorly thought out release.
Oh I agree. Just goes to show a miniature line can be more than complete without one.
(Imo the Leviathan is too "heavy" for Space Marines).
For loyalists maybe, but not for actual Legionnaires.
I'd actually agree with that too. Chaos marines should be far more open ended with their war equipment, as they can't rely on other branches to pick up any slack, and are also unbound by any rules. If I ever bought a Leviathan model, it'd go to my Chaos collection.
They kinda are. The relic rule for the FW vehicles only extends to Loyalists whereas Chaos just has free reign to take whatever.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2020/08/10 02:26:25
Subject: Re:Eradicators, Aggressors, Bladeguard Vets, Outriders etc vs Custodes
Good point I tend to forget that's meant to be primaris, but they're still lacking a core GW plastic superheavy alongside a few other factions.
Space Marines themselves don't even have a plastic Superheavy.
By design. It's one of the areas where I hope the background sticks, and keeps GW from indulging in another poorly thought out release.
Oh I agree. Just goes to show a miniature line can be more than complete without one.
(Imo the Leviathan is too "heavy" for Space Marines).
For loyalists maybe, but not for actual Legionnaires.
I'd actually agree with that too. Chaos marines should be far more open ended with their war equipment, as they can't rely on other branches to pick up any slack, and are also unbound by any rules. If I ever bought a Leviathan model, it'd go to my Chaos collection.
They kinda are. The relic rule for the FW vehicles only extends to Loyalists whereas Chaos just has free reign to take whatever.
Unfortunately gw likes to fix that by nerfing our Legion vehicles into unusablity.
you Have more Broken Primaris 
Eldar 
Imperial Guard 
Space Marines
