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You know, I think I'd feel worse about Tyranids not being updated if it wasn't for the fact that replacing all my Tyranid models with ugly new ubernids would be costly and pointless.

Nurglitch wrote:
You know, I think I'd feel worse about Tyranids not being updated if it wasn't for the fact that replacing all my Tyranid models with ugly new ubernids would be costly and pointless.

TBF, the nid range is as a whole, pretty awesome, and probably the only kit close that aged as well comparatively were ork boyz.

Not Online!!! wrote:
with what contents?
More jumptroops seems the only thing really missing.

Jump characters, bike characters, primaris planes and a gravis unit that is strictly better than an aspect warrior of your choice

 Jidmah wrote:
But yeah, I fully expect to see another wave of primaris before easter.

Question though:

Is this a wave of entirely new and unnecessary units, so that we'll be seeing re-printed extra datasheets in every expansion until the 2.0 9th Ed Marine 'Dex hits?

-OR-

Would it instead be a wave of "left over" units that don't have full multi-part, multi-option kits (like Suppressors and Outriders)?

 Jidmah wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
with what contents?
More jumptroops seems the only thing really missing.

Jump characters, bike characters, primaris planes and a gravis unit that is strictly better than an aspect warrior of your choice

a small release that would be perfect for a campaign book in the tail end of 9E.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
with what contents?
More jumptroops seems the only thing really missing.

Jump characters, bike characters, primaris planes and a gravis unit that is strictly better than an aspect warrior of your choice

a small release that would be perfect for a campaign book in the tail end of 9E.

That is a more significant release then most factions get.

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
with what contents?
More jumptroops seems the only thing really missing.

Jump characters, bike characters, primaris planes and a gravis unit that is strictly better than an aspect warrior of your choice

a small release that would be perfect for a campaign book in the tail end of 9E.

That is a more significant release then most factions get.

a character and a plane?

 Jidmah wrote:


How about not updating loyalist Space Marines at all for another three years? I'm sure that most players won't run out of things to buy in the meantime.

Finish the switch-over and it's entirely possible outside of starter sets. And I'm hoping they're ready to do an IG or AM starter set instead too.


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 Jidmah wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
with what contents?
More jumptroops seems the only thing really missing.

Jump characters, bike characters, primaris planes and a gravis unit that is strictly better than an aspect warrior of your choice

Jump Fight Infantry too. But none of that has been teased/previewed yet. The Marine ATV, Gladiators, Speeders and Heavy Intercessors all should be expected out before an Indomitus style box. Hell with Heavy Intercessors for 2x5 troops it may BE the Indomitus style box.

BrianDavion wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
with what contents?
More jumptroops seems the only thing really missing.

Jump characters, bike characters, primaris planes and a gravis unit that is strictly better than an aspect warrior of your choice

a small release that would be perfect for a campaign book in the tail end of 9E.

That is a more significant release then most factions get.

a character and a plane?

1 Jump charachter
1 Bike Charachter
1 Primaris Plane
1 Gravis unit.

that is 4.
F.e the recent chaos rework, added:
Venomcrawler
Foot HQ executioner.
Foot HQ Possessed psyker
Foot Elite Bigger possessed

The rest were reworks which were allready existing units.
Marines, and yes counting havocs in that aswell.
Obliterators.
Abbadon the purse robber
DA.
Terminators.

YMMV but that was a major rework for a major factions.

By comparison, guard got in the meantime a bunch of limited edition HQ's.

Short of a "new" faction release, most factions infact struggle to come even close, to the ammount of releases.

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
with what contents?
More jumptroops seems the only thing really missing.

Jump characters, bike characters, primaris planes and a gravis unit that is strictly better than an aspect warrior of your choice

a small release that would be perfect for a campaign book in the tail end of 9E.

That is a more significant release then most factions get.

a character and a plane?

1 Jump charachter
1 Bike Charachter
1 Primaris Plane
1 Gravis unit.

that is 4.
F.e the recent chaos rework, added:
Venomcrawler
Foot HQ executioner.
Foot HQ Possessed psyker
Foot Elite Bigger possessed

The rest were reworks which were allready existing units.
Marines, and yes counting havocs in that aswell.
Obliterators.
Abbadon the purse robber
DA.
Terminators.

YMMV but that was a major rework for a major factions.

By comparison, guard got in the meantime a bunch of limited edition HQ's.

Short of a "new" faction release, most factions infact struggle to come even close, to the ammount of releases.

You missed the roller queen himself the disco lord. They also released the Lord with thunderhammer stand alone.

Dudeface wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
with what contents?
More jumptroops seems the only thing really missing.

Jump characters, bike characters, primaris planes and a gravis unit that is strictly better than an aspect warrior of your choice

a small release that would be perfect for a campaign book in the tail end of 9E.

That is a more significant release then most factions get.

a character and a plane?

Spoiler:

1 Jump charachter
1 Bike Charachter
1 Primaris Plane
1 Gravis unit.

that is 4.
F.e the recent chaos rework, added:
Venomcrawler
Foot HQ executioner.
Foot HQ Possessed psyker
Foot Elite Bigger possessed

The rest were reworks which were allready existing units.
Marines, and yes counting havocs in that aswell.
Obliterators.
Abbadon the purse robber
DA.
Terminators.

YMMV but that was a major rework for a major factions.

By comparison, guard got in the meantime a bunch of limited edition HQ's.

Short of a "new" faction release, most factions infact struggle to come even close, to the ammount of releases.

You missed the roller queen himself the disco lord. They also released the Lord with thunderhammer stand alone.

And here i stood before my vitrine and wondered what i forgot !

As for the thunderhammer lord, i'd say it's "just " another lord so not a release and more of a rework.

Not Online!!! wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
with what contents?
More jumptroops seems the only thing really missing.

Jump characters, bike characters, primaris planes and a gravis unit that is strictly better than an aspect warrior of your choice

a small release that would be perfect for a campaign book in the tail end of 9E.

That is a more significant release then most factions get.

a character and a plane?

Spoiler:

1 Jump charachter
1 Bike Charachter
1 Primaris Plane
1 Gravis unit.

that is 4.
F.e the recent chaos rework, added:
Venomcrawler
Foot HQ executioner.
Foot HQ Possessed psyker
Foot Elite Bigger possessed

The rest were reworks which were allready existing units.
Marines, and yes counting havocs in that aswell.
Obliterators.
Abbadon the purse robber
DA.
Terminators.

YMMV but that was a major rework for a major factions.

By comparison, guard got in the meantime a bunch of limited edition HQ's.

Short of a "new" faction release, most factions infact struggle to come even close, to the ammount of releases.

You missed the roller queen himself the disco lord. They also released the Lord with thunderhammer stand alone.

And here i stood before my vitrine and wondered what i forgot !

As for the thunderhammer lord, i'd say it's "just " another lord so not a release and more of a rework.

It's an option the codex didn't have beforehand so I'd say it counts. It was a really good release by all accounts and much needed given the crummy state of the core of the range.

Not Online!!! wrote:
with what contents?
More jumptroops seems the only thing really missing.

New marines? Pretty obvious...

It's not what marines need. It's when GW feels need to create new flow of cash flowing. Old kits dont' sell as much as new ones(most of sales in lifetime are sold in matter of months). Marines sell more than non marines. Thus it's in ££££ interest for GW to keep chucking out new marine kits.

It's whatever they design. Not what they need. Heavy assault intercessors. Stealthy aggressors. Phobos melee unit. Whatever GW decides next. What marines need in game is secondary consideration.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
But yeah, I fully expect to see another wave of primaris before easter.

Question though:

Is this a wave of entirely new and unnecessary units, so that we'll be seeing re-printed extra datasheets in every expansion until the 2.0 9th Ed Marine 'Dex hits?

-OR-

Would it instead be a wave of "left over" units that don't have full multi-part, multi-option kits (like Suppressors and Outriders)?

The former. I don't really consider putting existing units into proper boxes as a "wave".

Not Online!!! wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:
You know, I think I'd feel worse about Tyranids not being updated if it wasn't for the fact that replacing all my Tyranid models with ugly new ubernids would be costly and pointless.

TBF, the nid range is as a whole, pretty awesome, and probably the only kit close that aged as well comparatively were ork boyz.

I hear this a lot, and I get it, but compare the official Hormagaunts:



To what a member of the community cooked up:



And which are now 3D printable:



A lot's changed in the two decades since the iconic Tyranid Gaunts and Warriors were released. The range is complete and mostly plastic so it's not in dire need of update like Eldar, but I think stylistically there's a lot of room for improvement, and some of the kits themselves show their age. Gaunts in particular are very statically posed, and lack detail on the front of the head due to the clamshell design.

Huh - I apparently completely missed Hormagaunts going from four stabby front limbs to two at some point.

If nothing else, Hormagaunts could do with redesigning in such a way that a, the center of gravity is over the damned base; and b, that the join between model and base was more solid.

I'd also say be careful what you wish for. The new Flying bases suck. The iron halos that aren't halos on the new Bladeguard I can already tell are going to suck.

None of the indomitus have a stand alone yet, but I think the Outriders will get one too and not get the Suppressor treatment, but not until theyve sold all the starters they're going to.

 Dysartes wrote:
Huh - I apparently completely missed Hormagaunts going from four stabby front limbs to two at some point.

If nothing else, Hormagaunts could do with redesigning in such a way that a, the center of gravity is over the damned base; and b, that the join between model and base was more solid.

Just use counterweight pebbles picked up in the back garden like a true scrub

@Catbarf: Those are phenomenal. Thanks for sharing!

 catbarf wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:
You know, I think I'd feel worse about Tyranids not being updated if it wasn't for the fact that replacing all my Tyranid models with ugly new ubernids would be costly and pointless.

TBF, the nid range is as a whole, pretty awesome, and probably the only kit close that aged as well comparatively were ork boyz.

I hear this a lot, and I get it, but compare the official Hormagaunts:



To what a member of the community cooked up:



And which are now 3D printable:



A lot's changed in the two decades since the iconic Tyranid Gaunts and Warriors were released. The range is complete and mostly plastic so it's not in dire need of update like Eldar, but I think stylistically there's a lot of room for improvement, and some of the kits themselves show their age. Gaunts in particular are very statically posed, and lack detail on the front of the head due to the clamshell design.

Those are gorgeous, but then I'd feel bad about how Hormagaunts suck genetically evolved ass.

Oh dang. Those red ones are 3d printed? I dig the raptor vibe.

one thing about new gaunts is you know GW'd overload the detail on them, no one wants to spend hours picking out the detail on a mini you need to paint hundreds of

Breton wrote:
I'd also say be careful what you wish for. The new Flying bases suck. The iron halos that aren't halos on the new Bladeguard I can already tell are going to suck.

The 'iron halos' aren't that bad. I personally think they're excessive and gaudy and don't fit the kind of aesthetic I like (so I clipped mine), but they're a solid part of the backpack

the Ironhalos also are a great place to mount various little bits to add some character to the mini
like a wolf skull on this battle leader

Voss wrote:

Breton wrote:
I'd also say be careful what you wish for. The new Flying bases suck. The iron halos that aren't halos on the new Bladeguard I can already tell are going to suck.

The 'iron halos' aren't that bad. I personally think they're excessive and gaudy and don't fit the kind of aesthetic I like (so I clipped mine), but they're a solid part of the backpack

I had to glue two of them back on after dropping the mini. While I was painting. They're not going to last long when playing.

BrianDavion wrote:
the Ironhalos also are a great place to mount various little bits to add some character to the mini
like a wolf skull on this battle leader

And given how many minis have them now, you can mix'n'match to make unique looking characters.

My Indomitus Captain has the Iron Halo from this guy on his backpack.

 catbarf wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

Nurglitch wrote:
You know, I think I'd feel worse about Tyranids not being updated if it wasn't for the fact that replacing all my Tyranid models with ugly new ubernids would be costly and pointless.

TBF, the nid range is as a whole, pretty awesome, and probably the only kit close that aged as well comparatively were ork boyz.

I hear this a lot, and I get it, but compare the official Hormagaunts:



To what a member of the community cooked up:



And which are now 3D printable:



A lot's changed in the two decades since the iconic Tyranid Gaunts and Warriors were released. The range is complete and mostly plastic so it's not in dire need of update like Eldar, but I think stylistically there's a lot of room for improvement, and some of the kits themselves show their age. Gaunts in particular are very statically posed, and lack detail on the front of the head due to the clamshell design.

Oh wow, those are fantastic. They look reminiscent of velociraptors.

[Removed, pretty sure I replied to the wrong post]

Breton wrote:

Voss wrote:

Breton wrote:
I'd also say be careful what you wish for. The new Flying bases suck. The iron halos that aren't halos on the new Bladeguard I can already tell are going to suck.

The 'iron halos' aren't that bad. I personally think they're excessive and gaudy and don't fit the kind of aesthetic I like (so I clipped mine), but they're a solid part of the backpack

I had to glue two of them back on after dropping the mini. While I was painting. They're not going to last long when playing.

I'm morbidly impressed by that. I took clippers to mine, but kept in a bits bag with the other spare parts. I'm currently squeezing one between my thumb and finger, its flexing but not breaking or picking up a permanent bend- its a solid little piece despite being cut free at the bottom.