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 Blackie wrote:
updates of altready existing stuff that don't change dimensions, wargear, etc of the updated units.

More releases like incubi, necron warriors, all new sisters etc

Sisters changed scale massively. Old sisters barely reach the shoulder of new Sisters.

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As a nigh-exclusive Guard player for some seventeen years, I definitely think Eldar need their metal/Finecrap stuff going over to plastic before Guard. If nothing else, give them a new Viper model for pities sake, put it out of it's misery once and for all.

The only things that Guard could do with updating are the Infantry Squads, Heavy Weapon Teams and Command Squad. They've aged very well to say they're almost two decades old but the upscaling of everything is really making them look- well, squat. The vehicles are otherwise fine.

I really do not see Catachans being the revamped Guard, nor do I want them to. For all people bemoan them as boring, Cadian's universalness means they fit onto just about any table thematically. Catachans with their bare arms and chests would look really weird on anything but a jungle board. I've said it before, but looking at the Catachan Officer other than what flesh he shows his equipment all looks very standardised, so if he slapped a shirt on he could very easily pass as a Cadian and I think that's the route they'll go - not Catachans specifically, but might have some bare arms you can use in a kit to represent them, or Cadians.

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Aeldari (all three varieties) need a makeover worse than anyone else, that range is just tragically out of date. Drukhari in particular need some new HQ options while they're at it, the situation there is absurd.

For the armies I play:

Marines don't need a damn thing. In all honesty at this point W2 Firstborn is almost an insult; just give jump packs to Assault Intercessors, Grav Cannons and Missile Launchers to something, the Primaris keyword to Centurions, put out an Outrider Captain, and push Firstborn to Legends already. Quit dancing a circle around it, it's undignified.

(That would mean just about every Firstborn model would have a direct counts-as Primaris equivalent if you squint a bit and/or with minimal surgery.)

Custodes really need some of their FW range brought over into plastic, a faction that isn't FW exclusive should be able to function without adding FW bits.

I hate to say this because of how well Daemons have been doing on the tournament scene, but Daemons kind of need some shooting options outside of the Soulgrinder. A smaller general Daemon Engine in the 100-130 point range, maybe a 3-6 model unit in the vicinity of Wraith Guard or Hive Guard, maybe something like the Master of Possessions. I'd love to have mono-god versions of each, but realistically a small release of more general kits would be a better investment for GW.

I'm working on 'nids, that collection is showing it's age a bit but it's still mostly fine. I think the thing that has aged the worst is probably the Genestealers.

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I disagree that all three varieties of Eldar need a makeover - that's true of the Eldar Eldar, but the Dark Eldar and Clown Eldar need expansions rather than makeovers.

In the case of the Clown Eldar - who, if my count on the GW site is correct, currently have around 8 kits available to them - I'd start with a Great Harlequin, and then add a secondary infantry unit. I know Mimes were a thing in the Citadel Journal list days, so they may be worth exploring as an option.

Dark Eldar need additional HQ options, and possibly a return of Vect on Dias of Destruction as their equivalent of the Silent King - pop an on-foot sculpt in there at the same time, why not? Trueborn and... Bloodbrides (I think) getting dedicated kits would be a nice touch. Lt-level generic HQs for each of the three "types" of DE are needed, even if that structure doesn't stick around in the new 'dex, along with some more mobile options. I'm sure DE players can come up with some other wants, but from the outside looking in, I'd describe them as needs - oh, and converting Finecast to plastic, of course.

Eldar probably need a new (or just recut) Guardian kit, probably a recut Falcon/etc, and a recut Vyper - not sure on the hate for the design of the latter, myself. And, yes, moving all Finecast to plastic. I still don't get why we haven't seen a Shining Spears upgrade sprue for the new jetbike kit - it seems like this particular fruit is so low-hanging, it's about to fall off the tree.

I'd love to see a new traditional Marine kit, just for the number of heads that would explode as reality failed to compute for them. At the very least, can we get the Long Fangs kit back, for access to the infantry Hellfrost weapon?

Custodes are in the same boat as the Clown Elves - they've had the equivalent of a wave 1 release as an introduction to the faction, and now they need a wave 2 to expand it. I don't know as I'd directly port FW units into the 'dex, but certainly some similar roles need filing.

Look to old Epic for some possible Daemon Engines - the Plague Catapult for Nurgle, for example. There were a whole host of Khorne ones, too.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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...yeah, a Loyalist Marine kit to match the new C:SM kit would make some heads 'splode.

   
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The Newman wrote:

Marines don't need a damn thing. In all honesty at this point W2 Firstborn is almost an insult; just give jump packs to Assault Intercessors, Grav Cannons and Missile Launchers to something, the Primaris keyword to Centurions, put out an Outrider Captain, and push Firstborn to Legends already. Quit dancing a circle around it, it's undignified.

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They need aircraft, or they need to primaris keyword and cross-platform transport for the Storm Talon/Raven with Intercessors and Redemptors/Invictors. And yeah, it drives me bonkers Assault intercessors didn't get a jump pack. Or that they didn't give Reivers FA, and Counts As Jump Pack if they have Graps and Chutes for 25% off.

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The Newman wrote:


I hate to say this because of how well Daemons have been doing on the tournament scene, but Daemons kind of need some shooting options outside of the Soulgrinder. A smaller general Daemon Engine in the 100-130 point range, maybe a 3-6 model unit in the vicinity of Wraith Guard or Hive Guard, maybe something like the Master of Possessions. I'd love to have mono-god versions of each, but realistically a small release of more general kits would be a better investment for GW.



I agree they should put out some general kits that work for all four gods. Have some details on each model with god specific bits and you'd have a kit that works for everyone. Harpies could have been done with leathery bat wings for Khorne and Slaanesh, feathered wings for Tzeentch, insect wings for Nurgle. God specific heads.

I thought recently it would be nice if the troops could have alternative weapons, which could be the shooting option. Some kind of poisonous blowpipe for plaguebearers, throwing axes for bloodletters, whatever else for daemonettes. It would really help objective play for mono god lists, would just be another sprue in each box and I don't think it's unreasonable given the price of them. Ork boyz have two options, chaos marines do, why not daemons?

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New aspect warriors/Exarchs please please GW ❤️

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 Luunar wrote:
New aspect warriors/Exarchs please please GW ❤️

Don't forget the Phoenix Lords and the Avatar

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A plastic Aviator of Khaine would be pretty cool - I really need to get around to sorting my RT Aviator onto a suitable base...

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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Considering almost all the other big monsters have gone up in scale I'd be shocked if any major Eldar Revamp didn't have an Avatar update. Necrons have skipped it with two of their C'Tan right now, but the Void Dragon is certainly a bigger model.

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 Dysartes wrote:
A plastic Aviator of Khaine would be pretty cool - I really need to get around to sorting my RT Aviator onto a suitable base...
I can only presume this is a result of your phone's autocorrect, but that is a funny image.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
A plastic Aviator of Khaine would be pretty cool - I really need to get around to sorting my RT Aviator onto a suitable base...
I can only presume this is a result of your phone's autocorrect, but that is a funny image.

Unlikely, given I'm posting from my laptop - but I do have a RT Aviator, along with two Epic ones, and a 40mm base that I plan on combining at some point. I may need to build the base up a touch, though.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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The Dark Eldar revamp is only edging a decade old this year and I think visually they still look fantastic, the problem is they released in a weird period just before Finecrap launched and just before they started really prioritising plastic above any other material. It's probably not laziness that the new plastic Incubi are almost identical to the metal/Finecrap ones - the sculpt was/is great. I suspect it's also why the plastic Archon and Succubus released only a few short years after the metal sculpts. They really need their existing Finecrap stuff converting over to plastic and/or consolidating into a new boxed kit (looking at you Beastmaster and friends).

Harlequins either need more kits, or just shunt them back into the Eldar/Dark Eldar codex. That or make 'em a supplement, but not a full blown standalone 'army'.

Eldar have aged very well (mostly), but they really, really need Aspect Warriors in plastic sooner rather than later, a new Viper and I still can't believe the Avatar hasn't received a new model yet. Guardians hold up visually, but I imagine the scale creep has not been friendly to them.

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Possible new hope for the wretched Xenos?

GSC and Necrons both got a lot of attention of late. The former taken from a relatively bare bones force, to one with lots of options, at least models wise.

My hope is that the remaining Xenos forces get more than just a No More Finecast spit and polish job. Because whilst I’m sure many would be happy to also have entirely plastic ranges, entirely new kits are always welcome.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Possible new hope for the wretched Xenos?

GSC and Necrons both got a lot of attention of late. The former taken from a relatively bare bones force, to one with lots of options, at least models wise.

My hope is that the remaining Xenos forces get more than just a No More Finecast spit and polish job. Because whilst I’m sure many would be happy to also have entirely plastic ranges, entirely new kits are always welcome.


I mean.... "no more finecast spit and polish job" for CWE would be a pretty beefy release

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It would indeed. But still give them new toys all the same!

Not gonna suggest what exactly, as I’m not an Eldar player so I don’t consider myself qualified to comment further.

   
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 Super Ready wrote:
 Luunar wrote:
New aspect warriors/Exarchs please please GW ❤️

Don't forget the Phoenix Lords and the Avatar


Oops, I meant Phoenix Lords when I said exarchs haha
Also yes please new avatar

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 Strg Alt wrote:
I have finished to paint my 4th IK by now. This means I am ready for a fully fledged Mecha game system to use these models.

And no, IK:Renegade isn't a substitute.


Adeptus Titanicus but change the movement units. There are some brilliant pictures of the playtesting of AT with full-size titans.

See that stuff above? Completely true. All of it, every single word. Stands to reason. 
   
 
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