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There's SFA thermal conduction in vacuum, so you don't actually freeze (the liquids "boil" due to pressure differential, not heat) and you can survive a minute in hard vacuum with only minor effects (a NASA engineer was accidentally exposed to near vacuum for a couple of minutes years ago - plus, they have done actual vacuum tests on animals, so there's a ton of research on it). He had some surface capillary ruptures and some corneal/scleral damage to the eyes, and some ear issues - all of which cleared up. There's a whole bunch of SF movies that got that wrong over the decades. 2001 had it right.
About the only handwavium in it was the autoinjector with hyperoxygenated blood in it.
Last episode's spinny pdcs moment was a nod to "death blossom" from "The Last Starfighter", too.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
But... but.. in Aliens (Resurrection?) the pressure differential at 1 ATM was enough to suck and crush a hybrid Alien origami style through a small window!? Are you telling me Hollywood makes this stuff up!?!?
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I always love when the air lock opens and people are getting sucked out of the room for like five minutes. If the suction is that strong the air is gonna be gone and it’s gonna stop really quick like.
That really depends of the size of the place having the air removed, and the capabilities of whatever system is responsible for trying to keep that air at pressure...
Much better episode - building up nicely and the new Sec General is less of a puppet than expected
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
I think the idea was the transmission was controlled from one of the many boxes in the depressurised part of the ship so she had to find out which one it was while working with a very restricted air supply.
Overall another good episode. One thing I appreciate from the writers is that they don't feel obligated to include every character in every episode. It seems to help the pacing quite a bit by allowing each of the characters and their scenarios to be given plenty of time when they are on screen.
hotsauceman1 wrote: Same, they kinda left it vague at first, made me feel stupid. Although I didn't understand why she needed to run and come back.
The suit didn't contain any independent pressurized oxygen supply as it was likely stripped/salvaged by Marcos' forces but was still technically intact/vacuum safe. She was going into the depressurized areas of the ship with only the oxygen she had literally around her body inside the suit which wouldn't last that long under exertion once sealed.
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It worked quite well as a plot device - although both areas seemed sealed so not sure if she could have just let the air into the second area?
Hoping we don't have both Naomi and Philip in the new crew set up.....
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
I’m sure it’s a drop in the bucket that is their effects budget, but I’m curious how much it cost to animated that low g whisky. It just kind of stuck out to me.
AduroT wrote: I’m sure it’s a drop in the bucket that is their effects budget, but I’m curious how much it cost to animated that low g whisky. It just kind of stuck out to me.
It's those little touches that really make this show for me, though. Insignificant details that you probably wouldn't even think about if they weren't there, but when you see them they really help to ground the setting.
I wasn't a fan of this week's episode and honestly thought it was one of the weakest for a variety of reasons that I won't go into here so as not to derail the thread. Alot of good characters feel somewhat wasted over the last couple of episodes especially given that in one case it'll literally be the last time we'll see them due to real life reasons/drama.
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I enjoyed this weeks more - but was really hoping that Naomi would sacrifice herself - its in character and would IMO would work well
I am really suprised about the new (now former) Secretary general - but we seem to be rushing through that part of the story and ignoring the big picture stuff.
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
If ever there was proof that this show should've been released all at once, it was this season. The way this season was written was not something that should come out week to week.
This show isn't The Boys, or Mando, or Wandavision. It's not generating the buzz that shows shows do and thereby justifying a slower release schedule.
As a result this season suffered from a number of episodes where it just spun its wheels, and where we got maybe a scene with two characters. I think Bobby and Alex were on the same set, showing up for a scene or two, for more than half the season.
Still good over all, and I applaud how closely this show sticks to the books (should be interesting to see how Alex's absence is handled next season), but man, can we not do this week-to-week gak from now on?
I think the slower pacing paid off with a pretty satisfying and exciting finale. There were times I would have rather binged a couple episodes in a sitting as opposed to being drip fed one episode a week. But seeing as how season 6 is going to be the final season they might be better off dropping that all at once.
I did not read the books so those last few seconds/minutes kinda baffled me ( in an intriguing way). I'd say today was a good day though between this finale and seeing the mass effect trilogy remaster.
I prefer the weekly. Even if it’s not hype all over, it just makes reaction discussions easier here. I would rather talk about events as they happen and what I think they mean than try to post mortem the entire season at once. That said...
Alex confused me when it happened. I thought he was reacting to some transmission he had received. And then they mention his ex and a funeral and I thought he’d just found out his kid had died. It was nice to see the crew get back together there at the end finally, but bummed they didn’t get a moment with all of them. I liked they Amos and Holden talk thought. “He’s cool with it!” Wait what? I’m curious how they managed the micro meteor shower. Like firing one big rock is one thing, but getting that kind of trajectory on a Massive shotgun cloud, I wondering what their launching mechanism was.
Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.
Definitely better than the last episode as it reincorporated some of the nuance back in the storytelling even if Avasarala got a bit too pollyanna during her big speech. I really liked the first ship battle (which reminded me of some of the great 90's B5 battles) but the second one was a bit too BFG for me personally but that's just a personal preference. It really dragged with three episodes of Naomi grunting on her ship as that part of the story was way too extended for my tastes (although I loved the first episode of it) and I'm not a fan of what they did with Alex. Spoilers below.
Spoiler:
That was some Tasha Yar death/Mass Effect 3 ending epically lame bs that they did with Alex killing him off with a still frame and a bit of CGI and then a minutes worth of reshoots with his castmates to give his impromptu ass kicking out of the show's proverbial airlock some retroactive meaning. I understand that we're living in this brave new world of cancel culture but you don't feth over a long running popular character just because the actor is allegedly a douche. No one in 5 years let alone twenty will remember even remotely what Cas Anvar did to get fired but the gakky death they gave his character will still be there just as stinking fresh as it is today for those newly discovering the series. Instead, they should have made him come in and solo film some additional scenes to give his character some more meaning and a proper death scene. The character is not the actor. YMMV.
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warboss wrote: It really dragged with three episodes of Naomi grunting on her ship as that part of the story was way too extended for my tastes (although I loved the first episode of it)
It was the whole Naomi/Marco/Fillip situation that dragged on a bit for me. Naomi on the ship was great - they took a classic 'damsel in distress' trope and turned it completely on its head, and while it was certainly slow, it left me intrigued the whole time as they slowly revealed what she was doing.
Spoiler:
That was some Tasha Yar death/Mass Effect 3 ending epically lame bs that they did with Alex killing him off with a still frame and a bit of CGI and then a minutes worth of reshoots with his castmates to give his impromptu ass kicking out of the show's proverbial airlock some retroactive meaning. I understand that we're living in this brave new world of cancel culture but you don't feth over a long running popular character just because the actor is allegedly a douche. No one in 5 years let alone twenty will remember even remotely what Cas Anvar did to get fired but the gakky death they gave his character will still be there just as stinking fresh as it is today for those newly discovering the series. Instead, they should have made him come in and solo film some additional scenes to give his character some more meaning and a proper death scene. The character is not the actor. YMMV.
Spoiler:
The problem is that they're not doing it for people in five or twenty years, they're doing it so that people will watch the next season when it airs. The simple fact is that shows do pass or fail on public perception. That's not 'cancel culture', it's simply people refusing to support a douche. Hell, they could have simply written the character out of next season (What, Alex, yeah, he's on Mars doing... I dunno, something.) Instead, they gave him an exit that, while sudden, has an impact on the rest of the crew and will likely drive at least some of the story moving into the start of next season as they all deal with it.
I’d not heard what the news and fuss was before this, so I went in with no clue who was expected to die to missing the last season. Went and read up on it afterwards. Apparently they changed Fred’s death earlier in the season to be entirely different from the books. Our edited in death this episode was the same cause as Fred’s originally was, though in a different circumstance, so it’s not some Entirely random thing, it’s a very real risk from what he did. Makes me fine with using it as the way out.
I really loved the finale but it wasn't without its issues.
I guess this is due to the last minute edit as mentioned in previous posts.
Some parts felt rushed or disjointed but then again, having said that, it was great a finale and I can't wait for next season.
But next season, I think, will need more episodes or tighter writing.
10 episodes this season didn't feel enough. It was a really good season, possibly my favourite, with great character development but I felt this season focused way too much on some (Naomi, Amos and Drummer) to the detriment of others (Holden, Bobbie, Alex).
Even so, still my favourite show on TV and I loved this season.
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