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And its up on New Zealand website, for those who spotted it the statue head on the base of the new Slaanesh hero is now clearly intentionally hollow with some broken rocks inside it
What's stealth about it? Psychic Awakening went on for at least a year, everyone knows it was essentially mandatory codex updates and this will be the same.
Ah, you missed the litany upthread where this isn't like PA because AoS is different.
Stealth was probably the wrong word anyway, yes. Paid DLC upgrades is more accurate, rather than the errata process they've already got.
Nobody who thinks logically for a moment would claim this isn't aos's pa.
Bunch of battletome updates and some new models over several supplements, new edition on summer.
This isn't AoS's PA. They are both a series of campaign books collectively covering all the armies. That's it. That's the only similarity.
They're both series of campaign books covering current time line events with army updates. They're nigh on the exact same concept.
I'd say in all probability 3rd ed next year as well.
Kanluwen wrote: Have we still got no idea what they did to my Eidolons of Mathlaan?
All we have right now are the details from the warscroll cards from Shadow and Pain.
After that we still likely won't know any book details until tomorrow when the "person flips through book on youtube" videos tend to go up.
Also its been spotted in the photos of warscroll cards in Shadow and Pain - that the Bloodstalkers (archer melusai) now have 2 shots with their bow not 1
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What's stealth about it? Psychic Awakening went on for at least a year, everyone knows it was essentially mandatory codex updates and this will be the same.
Ah, you missed the litany upthread where this isn't like PA because AoS is different.
Stealth was probably the wrong word anyway, yes. Paid DLC upgrades is more accurate, rather than the errata process they've already got.
Nobody who thinks logically for a moment would claim this isn't aos's pa.
Bunch of battletome updates and some new models over several supplements, new edition on summer.
This isn't AoS's PA. They are both a series of campaign books collectively covering all the armies. That's it. That's the only similarity.
They're both series of campaign books covering current time line events with army updates. They're nigh on the exact same concept.
I'd say in all probability 3rd ed next year as well.
That's what campaign books for wargames are. That is all of GW's campaign books.
If AoS 3rd edition comes next year is mostly irrelevant; to me it seem like the "point" of broken realms is to bring back Slaanesh more than it is to pave the way to a new set of rules.
I think a point that doesn't get translated well between 40k players and AoS is that its a lot easier to introduce new factions into AoS than it is 40k, given that 40k already has a ton of factions (it just doesnt seem like it since a third of them are different flavors of marines, or plays with Marine concepts like SoB and Custodes)
- Two new sets of allegiance abilities for the Cities of Sigmar, representing the newly-annexed Anvilgard – now known as Har Kuron – and the shadowy domain of Misthåvn, each with their own abilities, artefacts, command traits, and more.
Har Kuron is its new name, now. Praise Morathi-Khaine !
Sarouan wrote: Lorewise, Anvilgard is off Sigmar's dominion :
- Two new sets of allegiance abilities for the Cities of Sigmar, representing the newly-annexed Anvilgard – now known as Har Kuron – and the shadowy domain of Misthåvn, each with their own abilities, artefacts, command traits, and more.
Har Kuron is its new name, now. Praise Morathi-Khaine !
Looking forward to reading about this - and if/how it ties into the Soulbound campaign.
I said early on and will repeat: it was a mistake to restrict them to crossbows. Never made sense for their 'hunters, rangers, and woodsmen' to use a weapon that can't be easily replenished in the field. Add to it that crossbows just aren't seen as iconic for those concepts.
Eidolon changes seem...interesting, but still don't address one of the bigger problems which is Storm has no real place while Sea lets you ignore Tidecaster restrictions.
Kanluwen wrote: Lack of Vanguard interest from GW is killing me.
I said early on and will repeat: it was a mistake to restrict them to crossbows. Never made sense for their 'hunters, rangers, and woodsmen' to use a weapon that can't be easily replenished in the field. Add to it that crossbows just aren't seen as iconic for those concepts.
Eidolon changes seem...interesting, but still don't address one of the bigger problems which is Storm has no real place while Sea lets you ignore Tidecaster restrictions.
To be fair, the Stormcast theme of the book is about the force that holds the Cities themselves, as well as buffing Liberators back up.
No doubt Vanguard will get their love in another book.
There's a literal group of monster hunters roaming the wilderness in the form of Ven Brecht's Blackwatch. I take back what I said here, there's no mention of the monster hunter bit that was shown earlier. We'll have to wait and see on that.
Here's the full product info though:
The grim Lord-Veritant Keiser Ven Brecht has assembled an elite band of Stormcast sharpshooters in order to track down servants of darkness operating in the shadows of Sigmar’s free cities. Known as the Black Watch, this retinue employs keen-scented Gryph-hounds to run heretics and traitors into the open before riddling them with a storm of lightning arrows. Guided by Ven Brecht’s centuries of bitter experience, there is no foe that can evade their relentless pursuit.
Defend the realms of Sigmar with this warscroll battalion in a box! This set allows you to hunt the enemies of Order across the realms with a variety of ranged troops, led in battle by a bold Lord-Veritant. Combine this set with the rules found in Broken Realms: Morathi, and you’ll be able to use the Ven Brecht’s Black Watch warscroll battalion – a detachment of hunters from the Anvils of the Heldenhammer capable of outflanking the foe – to your advantage! This set also saves you money compared to getting the contents inside separately.
So rather than use any of the hunters or hunter-adjacent stuff...they just gave outflank instead to Warrior and Sacrosanct Chamber stuff. And let's not forget that Gryph-Hounds are, for whatever reason, not synergized with Vanguard at all despite being pushed in their SC and also the Chamber box a few years back.
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Kanluwen wrote: Lack of Vanguard interest from GW is killing me.
I said early on and will repeat: it was a mistake to restrict them to crossbows. Never made sense for their 'hunters, rangers, and woodsmen' to use a weapon that can't be easily replenished in the field. Add to it that crossbows just aren't seen as iconic for those concepts.
Eidolon changes seem...interesting, but still don't address one of the bigger problems which is Storm has no real place while Sea lets you ignore Tidecaster restrictions.
The ammunition magically replenishes so it's cool.
Kanluwen wrote: [s]So rather than use any of the hunters or hunter-adjacent stuff...they just gave outflank instead to Warrior and Sacrosanct Chamber stuff. And let's not forget that Gryph-Hounds are, for whatever reason, not synergized with Vanguard at all despite being pushed in their SC and also the Chamber box a few years back.
As I'm not playing AoS, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I am assembling war-bands for Warcry. One I intend to get is the Vanguard box because I like rangers, so I'd like the Vanguard developed further. Fluffwise, it makes sense that recon specialists would be sneaking into enemy territory like the Eightpoints. You can't mount Operation Overlord until you get more intel on the enemy. Once you've solid intel, then the Warrior Chambers can go in.
Also, giving abilities to units who thematically are an odd fit has precedence. Primaris Reivers supposedly are the CC experts, but with 9th, Assault Intercessors are introduced instead of giving the better ccw options to the reivers. So what gives? Probably a desire to force marine players to buy yet more figures since reivers are so pathetic in their intended role.
Mothman wrote: So when we all placed bets on plot, who put money on slaanesh getting pregnant and having a baby
EDIT- wait, does this make slaaneshmas canon lol
Could you mark things like this as spoilers in the future for those of us who want to read the story ourselves--you completely ruined the surprise for me.
I love how they looked at Melusai and were like 'Oh no! We gave them too many impractical expensive buffs nobody's going to use, better nuke their mortal wound attack so they're not even good solo anymore!
Mothman wrote: So when we all placed bets on plot, who put money on slaanesh getting pregnant and having a baby
EDIT- wait, does this make slaaneshmas canon lol
Could you mark things like this as spoilers in the future for those of us who want to read the story ourselves--you completely ruined the surprise for me.
Ditto. Thankfully didn’t open the other spoilered posts further explaining what this actually means.
Sarouan wrote: Lorewise, Anvilgard is off Sigmar's dominion :
- Two new sets of allegiance abilities for the Cities of Sigmar, representing the newly-annexed Anvilgard – now known as Har Kuron – and the shadowy domain of Misthåvn, each with their own abilities, artefacts, command traits, and more.
Har Kuron is its new name, now. Praise Morathi-Khaine !
So with Daughters of Khaine and CoS Dark Elves reunited...aren't they basically the old WHFB Dark Elves again? All that's basically missing now is momma's boy himself - could Har Kuron serve as a stepping stone for a fully re-imagined Dark Elf faction under Malerion's and Morathi's joint command (similar to how the pointy cowboys are re-imagined High Elves)?
