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AduroT wrote: The one I caught was the Thanos Copter. The one I’m not sure about was the little thing/creature jumping underground as the camera panned. I couldn’t make out what it was.
you mean the one in the bottle? that's easy, think what he was jumping AT. it was pretty clearly a shrunk thor (*maybe Thorg) trying to get to Mjolner
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Lance845 wrote: Lets place bets on the man behind the curtain!
1) Kang
2) Another Loki
3) Mephisto
4) Other
why not 1 AND 2. Kang's backstory in the comic books is INSANELY complex. they'll have to simplify it, so I could see Kang just being a "Loki varient" (or even a varient of someone else we know) could work. hell, Maybe Kang is a Tony Stark Varient?
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AduroT wrote: The one I caught was the Thanos Copter. The one I’m not sure about was the little thing/creature jumping underground as the camera panned. I couldn’t make out what it was.
you mean the one in the bottle? that's easy, think what he was jumping AT. it was pretty clearly a shrunk thor (*maybe Thorg) trying to get to Mjolner
Throg is my suspicion. It looked like it had the red cape.
Naw, I am all for another Loki. That or Kang. Though Kang would be like Agatha in that it's a reveal of a character that only people who know the comics knows. Which I think sucks a little of the fun out of it for everyone else? Unless there is bigger pay off later in other series/movies when these people come back.
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Another great episode, cannot wait for the finale. As I am not very well versed in the comics I will probably miss some hints to Loki's backstory but that is why we have this thread - I love to read all the spoilers you guys place here
That's not as implausible as it sounds. She appears to be one of the only ones that knew all about the Time Keepers before the big reveal- and at the very least is a monitoring and data filtering entity put in place by the Big Bad. Head Henchwoman for sure, quite possibly an avatar of our Man Behind the Curtain.
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Alligator Loki, or Floridaman Loki, was absolutely delightful. I hope we see more of him! Every time he's on screen I keep thinking of Maine Justice.
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AduroT wrote: So hey, did y’all see the wrecked Stark/Avengers Tower?
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It wasn’t Stark/Avengers Tower, rather it had a Qeng logo on it, which is yet another Kang reference.
I wondered about that. Saved me from looking it up.
The President Loki thing turned out to be far more farcical and (happily) short lived than I expected.
There were an awful lot of pithy one-liners about the power of belief and desire. Not sure it really sold me on them, even (or especially) when they worked.
Decent spectacles, and I guess everyone leveled up in being Loki.
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In all fairness to Sylvie, that was far more a tablecloth than a blanket. Though between that and the costume comment, I wondered if that was more the actress than the character.
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AduroT wrote: So hey, did y’all see the wrecked Stark/Avengers Tower?
Spoiler:
It wasn’t Stark/Avengers Tower, rather it had a Qeng logo on it, which is yet another Kang reference.
I wondered about that. Saved me from looking it up.
The President Loki thing turned out to be far more farcical and (happily) short lived than I expected.
There were an awful lot of pithy one-liners about the power of belief and desire. Not sure it really sold me on them, even (or especially) when they worked.
Decent spectacles, and I guess everyone leveled up in being Loki.
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In all fairness to Sylvie, that was far more a tablecloth than a blanket. Though between that and the costume comment, I wondered if that was more the actress than the character.
the costume comment makes me think she's going to get a new costume at the end, it'd not suprise me given both WV and FATWS have had a "NEW COSTUME REVEAL" in the last episode
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Maybe. The main thing with her costume is it was modded for her, as she's still breastfeeding. I just took it as a shout-out to the articles that circulated about it.
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I sincerely hope they don't go with another Loki as the Big Bad for the show. That would be lame as hell, at least to me.
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I really liked the USS Eldridge thing, as that's one of my favorite conspiracy theories of all time!
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In Infinity War, when he uses the Time Stone to try to defeat Thanos he says he saw 14,000,605 possible futures, but only one in which they could defeat him.
What if Dr Strange used the Time Stone to manipulate all those possible futures into the one needed by setting up the TVA to get rid of (prune) all of the other timelines where they failed?
Tricky, since he was viewing and never left the spot he was sitting in. It's safer to say that he manipulated Tony.
It also has cause and effect issues- why would pruning the future and unrelated past be needed? Anything past endgame would be really unnecessary, and minor stuff in medieval cathedrals and ren fairies seems unlikely to affect Thanos, no matter how attached people are to chaos theory and butterflies.
Voss wrote: Tricky, since he was viewing and never left the spot he was sitting in. It's safer to say that he manipulated Tony.
It also has cause and effect issues- why would pruning the future and unrelated past be needed? Anything past endgame would be really unnecessary, and minor stuff in medieval cathedrals and ren fairies seems unlikely to affect Thanos, no matter how attached people are to chaos theory and butterflies.
Well now- Thanos was Dr. Strange's immediate focus. One of the stupider things about Time travel, is once you start going back and fixing things to make a better future- why would you ever stop?
Will those folks have a messy divorce? Go back and ruin their first date.
Does that guy you bumped into on Tuesday drop an ice cream on your new shoes? Go back to a ren faire, poison his ice cream so he goes through life thinking he's lactose intolerant.
Or, you know, more major stuff- will those two become an evil duo in the future? Eliminate their backstory, and perhaps one goes on to be a hero.
Especially with the TVA- someone has done enough meddling, often enough, to justify building an entire city dedicated to 'improving' history. We're in a Groundhog Day situation, where whoever's behind the Timekeepers is making a universe wide perfect day/week/aeon whatever.
Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
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Lance845 wrote: Naw, I am all for another Loki. That or Kang. Though Kang would be like Agatha in that it's a reveal of a character that only people who know the comics knows. Which I think sucks a little of the fun out of it for everyone else? Unless there is bigger pay off later in other series/movies when these people come back.
Alioth is another BIG nod towards Kang. I've seen a couple theories about where they go with that from here. I think my favorite is that we're not going to meet Jonathan Majors playing Kang but rather an older actor playing Immortus. This lets them tease what Kang can become but introduce us to a younger version of the character in Ant-Man. I've also seen it suggested that the TVA exists to keep Kang contained to the future and he's going to be unleashed now that Alioth isn't keeping him in check.
My favorite bit of the episode was the sequence of "Curse your sudden, but inevitable betrayal!" and the resulting nonsense. Kid Loki and Gator Loki playing Get Help! was fantastic.
On that note, Kid Loki in Young Avengers seems likely.
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Voss wrote: Tricky, since he was viewing and never left the spot he was sitting in. It's safer to say that he manipulated Tony.
It also has cause and effect issues- why would pruning the future and unrelated past be needed? Anything past endgame would be really unnecessary, and minor stuff in medieval cathedrals and ren fairies seems unlikely to affect Thanos, no matter how attached people are to chaos theory and butterflies.
Well now- Thanos was Dr. Strange's immediate focus. One of the stupider things about Time travel, is once you start going back and fixing things to make a better future- why would you ever stop?
Right, but he pretty much lost the Stone immediately after his viewing session and can't do that anymore (as all of his time shenanigans seemed reliant on having the Time Stone). And the TVA seems solidly tech to the point that their HQ has an anti-everything else field (including magic and infinity stones).
So Strange is a pretty poor candidate for being the mastermind.
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My other half is pretty convinced Sylvie will be Enchantress for the MCU. Just leave Amora out of it entirely.
Another Loki won't be a shock, but I am expecting and hoping for Kang, especially as he has been cast and they only uploaded the final episode for Loki to Disney plus a few weeks ago.
(The Director mentioned it on her twitter)
What if...? looks amazing.
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Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote: My other half is pretty convinced Sylvie will be Enchantress for the MCU. Just leave Amora out of it entirely.
I'm still really convinced she's just going to end up dead, as part of a generic 'growth' story for Loki.
It feels foreshadowed by Mobius' psychological tactics in the first four episodes (particularly when he brings in Frigga and Sif), even if it strikes me as hackneyed and a disturbing vehicle for negative character growth rather than something that would drive him to better things.
Another Loki only really works if its THIS Loki or THIS Sylvie or otherwise another Loki we've already met. If its just some random other Loki its effectively the same as any other new character at this point. The "but you're me" shock factor is kind of lost after you exchange it with a reptile.
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