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 jeff white wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
At this point my guess is that they are trying to figure out what to do with Craftworlds. I believe Ynnari was the original plan but that has probably changed due various factors.

Including that dark eldar and CWE do not belong on the same side of the table, ever...

The Dark Eldar helped a craftworld against the Tryanids because they found their descent into necromancy amusing.

On occassion the enemy of my enemy and all that.

Voss wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:

Voss wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

No, deathwatch has the worst box set.

This is a great box for a starting DA player. Plasma Inceptors, plasma dread, chaplain and intercessors. Goes a long way.

Legitimately baffled. DW and BA are the only two I'd even consider buying.

Plasma inceptors are basically anti-synergy to the DA chapter tactic, and are expensive suicide squads.
There are tons of primaris chaplains at this point, 5 intercessors are basically filler (with much cheaper sources) and you're not getting enough of a discount on the redemptor dread through this box.

You aren't considering the potential stratagems for the dark angel inceptors, especially if they get weapons of the dark age or a version of it.

We also don't know the full dark angel super doctrine as of yet, could be plasma based (probably not). Wait for the rules before making hyperbole judgements on box sets.

Wasn't aware the DA supplement would change the price of the redemptor, change the availablity of several starter boxes full of intercessors, or reduce the number of primaris chaplain releases.

I know it's probably not as great a box to some people as others (£ value wise) but you are still getting £119 worth for £85 worth in the box, breakdown below.

*£9 upgrade sprue
•£22.50 Chaplain
•£40 Redemptor
•£30 Inceptors
•£17.50 half box intercessors

Additionally these are full customisable kits, unlike some of these options from starter boxes.

I can see the value for a dark angel player anyway. Interrogator chaplains could also be amazing for all we know, like I said, let's wait for the rules.

The DA box is retail $180, exactly the same as the Deathwatch one. I'd rather have the more useful in 9th Redemptor, than 5 more intercessors and an Lt. And currently, inceptors are doing more work than Aggressors.
Personally think the BA one is the best so far, but the DA one is good.

edit: forgot the upgrade sprues, but that's a wash anyway

 bullyboy wrote:
The DA box is retail $180, exactly the same as the Deathwatch one. I'd rather have the more useful in 9th Redemptor, than 5 more intercessors and an Lt. And currently, inceptors are doing more work than Aggressors.
Personally think the BA one is the best so far, but the DA one is good.

edit: forgot the upgrade sprues, but that's a wash anyway

I think there may only be one upgrade sprue in the DA which could make a bigger difference value wise, however the rest have 2x so it may also have 2x which bumps the value of it up even more.

 vipoid wrote:
As an aside, I can't help but notice that DE are meant to be the next 40k codex and they got 0 previews. I guess Lolfish Hamchops is all DE are getting on that front.

Don't worry, GW, we didn't want any of our HQs, units, or wargear back. Clearly giving SoB the Dreadknight equivalent absolutely no one was asking for is far more important.

At this point, it's best to hope we don't lose even more unit options with those whats in the box design choices. Then we may get next to nothing new and have some units ( namely scourges ) end up in the crapper.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Based on what we know about how GWs design studio operates, 99% probability that the entirety of the plastic redesigns for Craftworlds, and probably quite a bit of new kits as well, have already been sculpted, some of them have probably gone through the engineering process, and are just waiting to have molds cut and plastics produced. Its a question of when, not if.

I haven't had a good chuckle in a while chief!!
have an exalt.

Bleedin' 'eck. You take a simple 7 days off from posting and GW slap a preview right in the middle of it. Gah!

So, doing this quickly...

Mobile Suit Nundum
I actually said "oh no!" out loud during the cool stained glass part of the video. Overall I am neutral leaning to "ok" with the Nundam suits. At least they are what the Baby Carrier should (and would) have been, with the legs going into the legs of the suit, rather than hanging there.

I want to know what the shoulder guns are. They don't look like bolt weapons.

Kill-Team: The Paywall Nexus
Really GW? Fething really? You're going to delay releasing Heavy Intercessors even further by slapping them in a giant and no-doubt hyper-expensive box for a game you essentially abandoned over a year ago?

And you think that pitting them up against 5 measly Flayed Ones is fair? And you think that 5 Flayed Ones in a box is a good idea. A box we can't even buy because, like with the Heavy Intercessors, you've chosen to delay them further by putting them into this box.

And the terrain... talk about low effort junk. This release is a travesty.

Adeptus BattleTechius
Eventually I'll break and get this game. The BTech player in me looks at it and just wants it all. The new titan is amazing. Love it.

Age of Sigmar: Fursona Aelfs
I burst out laughing when that fox-alope thing appeared. Man. Talk about over-design. And more of GW's patented "swirly bull gak", which now has an official name: Hurakan™

I do appreciate that it's quiver is missing one arrow. That's attention to detail.

Also major props for a preview video that hides more than it shows. That must be some sort of new artform GW has invented.

The Endless Spells are great (well, not the whirly weapon one - that was the "oh God we need a third one, but what?" entry for this box). Snake's ace, and the big fist is cool. I don't play AoS and yet I want most of the Endless Spell boxes.

Dire Chasm - Vampire's Suck!
Holy crap. They're gorgeous. The Enforcer, with his giant feth off mace is the best, but I love the dual sword girl as well.

I must have them. I don't even play Underworlds.

Warhammer Quest - The Search for More Money!
This looks great, the aesthetic and tone seems deep and engrossing, the minis (so far) look fantastic.

It's going to be a massive rip-off however, especially if it gets BSF-style expansions. And it's not really Quest because there's no development. You're playing set named characters that someone else invented.

Phew! I think that's everything. GW did a great job of showing off tons of stuff this time.

Hi Everyone, I cam here as a last resort: Can anyone explain to me how GW release system works?

I searched wide and large on the internet to understand when the Paragon warsuit will be available to buy.
At the same time, Gorzag gitstompa.. Where can I buy it? I can't find it on the GW website and I can't find it on the element games website as well.
Am I missing something? Are they only available in GW store at the moment? If that's the case, how does one goes about to buy them during the lockdown? That does not make any sense.

Honestly stumped... Can anyone help me understand how does one go about buying those models?

Thanks

The preview shows things coming out at some point in the future, they do not yet have release dates. Normally around 5-6pm GMT on a Sunday GW will preview the pre-orders that will go live on the following Saturday. Other than that you might get a date here and there but otherwise that's when you'll find out.

Gorzag was only sold in GW stores over christmas and then on the GW webstore for a limited time only. I'm unsure if he's been up for individual sale yet on the store or not (I've not kept track). If he has then the only place to get him now is ebay/forums/facebook groups. Though if he's print on demand then it might take al ong while before those orders get processed by GW

 Celestino2 wrote:
Hi Everyone, I cam here as a last resort: Can anyone explain to me how GW release system works?

I searched wide and large on the internet to understand when the Paragon warsuit will be available to buy.
At the same time, Gorzag gitstompa.. Where can I buy it? I can't find it on the GW website and I can't find it on the element games website as well.
Am I missing something? Are they only available in GW store at the moment? If that's the case, how does one goes about to buy them during the lockdown? That does not make any sense.

Honestly stumped... Can anyone help me understand how does one go about buying those models?

Thanks

Dunno when the warsuit will be available, I'd guess some time in the next couple of months. They'll likely have another preview prior to preorder, then 1 week preorder followed by being able to buy it in stores.

You might have missed Gorzag, he was available in GW stores at the end of December, then on the online store at the start of Jan, but as made to order which typically means only 1 week to order him.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Really GW? Fething really? You're going to delay releasing Heavy Intercessors even further by slapping them in a giant and no-doubt hyper-expensive box for a game you essentially abandoned over a year ago?

Primaris Players deserved that little slap in the face, so they can feel like every other faction at least once in the past several years.

I will never understand the petty need to blame space marine players for space marine releases.

 Sentineil wrote:
I will never understand the petty need to blame space marine players for space marine releases.

Maybe it's because they're almost entirely at fault?

Why are you buying stuff I don't like?!

 Galas wrote:
Why are you buying stuff I don't like?!

Them buying stuff they like prevents anyone else from getting stuff they like.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Why are you buying stuff I don't like?!

Them buying stuff they like prevents anyone else from getting stuff they like.

I mean, that's kind of how companies work: they make stuff people want to buy, and if more people want to buy one thing than another thing, well...

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Why are you buying stuff I don't like?!

Them buying stuff they like prevents anyone else from getting stuff they like.

LMAO just buy more.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Why are you buying stuff I don't like?!

Them buying stuff they like prevents anyone else from getting stuff they like.

You could always spend more to match them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Adeptus BattleTechius
Eventually I'll break and get this game. The BTech player in me looks at it and just wants it all. The new titan is amazing. Love it.

That you don't already own a bazillion titans is the most surprising thing I've read all week.

I just took all my long stockpiled stuff out of shrinkwrap and it's glorious.

 Galas wrote:
Why are you buying stuff I don't like?!

Why do your words hurt me so much?

What a clown show this place becomes when folks seriously come out and blame other consumers for what they enjoy being under-represented.

Dread Master wrote:
What a clown show this place becomes when folks seriously come out and blame other consumers for what they enjoy being under-represented.

Why would they NOT be to blame though.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
What a clown show this place becomes when folks seriously come out and blame other consumers for what they enjoy being under-represented.

Why would they NOT be to blame though.

Because you are the one slacking on your purchases.

JSG wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
What a clown show this place becomes when folks seriously come out and blame other consumers for what they enjoy being under-represented.

Why would they NOT be to blame though.

Because you are the one slacking on your purchases.

Actually its even worse than that!

Not only is he slacking in buying enough Xenos models, but he's also doing insufficient positive promotion of non-marine armies! A smear campaign is nothing without an even more powerful counter campaign to promote your angle as well! Otherwise all those marine players you turn away from playing marines will all end up doing something daft like buying into Chaos Marines instead of into proper 40K Xenos forces!

This is just victim blaming lol

No, it's just natural selection. Eventually the poor weak Xenos players are picked off, leaving the strong Primaris to survive.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
No, it's just natural selection. Eventually the poor weak Xenos players are picked off, leaving the strong Primaris to survive.

BAH! Vile Anti-Xenos propaganda! All know the Xenos are greater united than the feeble marine! Why else would they have to bolster their ranks with double the model range?
It's the only way they can stand against the might that is the Xenos!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I burst out laughing when that fox-alope thing appeared. Man. Talk about over-design. And more of GW's patented "swirly bull gak", which now has an official name: Hurakan™

You kidding mate? Celestant Prime is still around. Hurricane Hurakan doesn't even have any random bling flying around in his!

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Sentineil wrote:
I will never understand the petty need to blame space marine players for space marine releases.

Maybe it's because they're almost entirely at fault?

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:Them buying stuff they like prevents anyone else from getting stuff they like.

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
What a clown show this place becomes when folks seriously come out and blame other consumers for what they enjoy being under-represented.

Why would they NOT be to blame though.

Took me a while, but... you're actually serious aren't you?

If you want to blame anyone, blame GW. People buying new Marines isn't preventing you from buying new non-Marines. GW not making whatever new non-Marines you are interested in is preventing you from buying them.

You are exactly the same as the Marine players and customers. You want new toys, and when they are released, you buy new toys. It's what they do, it's what you (want to) do.
Ah, you might say, but is the reason GW releases new Marines not that people buy new Marines?
Indeed it is. It's an ongoing cycle where new releases breed popularity which breeds new releases. But that's not the whole picture. New Sisters of Battle were apparently a big hit despite having limited popularity before precisely because of the original lack and new abundance of new models. All those new AoS factions had 0 popularity due to not existing before, and now they have (sometimes rather extensive) ranges of modern plastics.
So, as said, blame GW for not taking chances more often and investing in the underrepresented factions rather than releasing yet another flavour of Marine.

But, if you want to go around blaming GW or anyone else for that matter, please don't do it here, I've seen enough News threads devolve into that discussion now.
Though, out of solidarity, I won't buy the new Sisters Nundam until the Xenos factions get some love. Yes, that's the real reason I won't buy it, nothing to do with absolutely hating the whole concept. You're welcome.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I burst out laughing when that fox-alope thing appeared. Man. Talk about over-design. And more of GW's patented "swirly bull gak", which now has an official name: Hurakan™

You kidding mate? Celestant Prime is still around. Hurricane Hurakan doesn't even have any random bling flying around in his!

Over design? I just see a fox bro in armour with a bow doing a swish pose. Over design would surely add an obnoxious amount of random detail that doesn’t make sense and make it too busy. But this model doesn’t look busy to me or over worked. Just looks like a cool bro with a bow.
Yeah it has a swirl under it to show it’s kicking up magic wind, being a spirit of wind, but it’s pretty tasteful to me, as Ninth said, it doesn’t have random junk swirling around in the magic wind or anything like that.

Feel free to hate the model though, just don’t agree with it being over-designed.