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I think on the point of 'will this be a limited run?' the answer is:

It won't be limited like the Indomitus box was limited. This will get a sustained print run. However, like every modern WQ game, eventually it WILL go out of print and so will any future expansions. BSF had a shelf life of circa 2 years before content started to slowly disappear after Ascension was released.

I think after 3 iterations of this series we can say with confidence that it will stick around but not forever and so if you want it, I wouldn't wait around too long before getting it.

All those salivating over the lovely new skelligtons etc showing up as a 'normal' AoS release should prepare for disappointment

while it might happen (yes please) it's not certain, and Blackstone fortress teased us with lovely new cultists and traitor guard neither of which made the transition to 40K (except for brief splash release as extra enemies for BSF), but as of now the traitor guard are gone and the only cultists are the ropey old ones

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
All those salivating over the lovely new skelligtons etc showing up as a 'normal' AoS release should prepare for disappointment

while it might happen (yes please) it's not certain, and Blackstone fortress teased us with lovely new cultists and traitor guard neither of which made the transition to 40K (except for brief splash release as extra enemies for BSF), but as of now the traitor guard are gone and the only cultists are the ropey old ones

Same thing with the night goblins with extra legs... but in the case of skeletons they are less niche, unique or original. Skeletons are the bread and butter of any fantasy setting.
But yeah caution as advised.

Not - sure the Wight King is an interesting new element which links in with them - although Skeletons are also traditional Vampire minons

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
All those salivating over the lovely new skelligtons etc showing up as a 'normal' AoS release should prepare for disappointment

while it might happen (yes please) it's not certain, and Blackstone fortress teased us with lovely new cultists and traitor guard neither of which made the transition to 40K (except for brief splash release as extra enemies for BSF), but as of now the traitor guard are gone and the only cultists are the ropey old ones

Fairly certain they confirmed new Skellingtons are coming alongside the Wight King,

Warhammer Community wrote:This is the Wight King (although you can paint him any colour that you like) and he’s not coming alone – accompanying him are the numberless hordes of the Deathrattle.

Granted not a direct confirmation, but given Skellingtons don’t have a particularly dedicated army right now, I’m willing to bet my prediction is accurate

Cursed City ones may come under Armoured Skellies, or possibly another more elite option?

Second quote (which I really should’ve included already) pretty much confirms it.

Warhammer Community wrote:The necromancers are hard at work as we speak, preparing the legions of the undead to march to war later in the year.

I think that refers to other, more specialised units. IMO Skeletons, Grave Guard and Black Knights are all solid kits and will stay. Cossack undead will be unique to the Cursed City box like the BSF stuff was.

People talk about the vampire ogre. I can not see it. Where is it?

Big boss man is the Vampogre

The one with the wolf pelts?


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Or the vargskyr?

Wolf pelts.

He would be an execelent HQ or maneater in an Ogor army as well if anybody ever scalp the game.

He has to be a maneater, right? He's got different knickknacks from some of the other heroes. His necklace has a Khurnoth rune and one of the Kharadron canisters the duardin has on his backpack. Also, the armor on the lower part of his shirt matches the duellist noble guy. Small details really give the dude a cool backstory.

Also, is his shoulder pad originally a gutplate?

Something was bugging me and I could not put my finger at what was missing on this set...

We are missing a Barbarian!

Already made one in Silver Tower, and they even made a (bad) female version few years later.

So is Octren's face stapled on (á la Handsome Jack) or is that a mask he's wearing? I almost assume it's a mask but the colour they chose to paint it in is very close to the colour of his hands..

It's a mask. It's a callback to the Empire Battlewizard kit, which has a mask with a similar Pharoh-esque beard.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
All those salivating over the lovely new skelligtons etc showing up as a 'normal' AoS release should prepare for disappointment

while it might happen (yes please) it's not certain, and Blackstone fortress teased us with lovely new cultists and traitor guard neither of which made the transition to 40K (except for brief splash release as extra enemies for BSF), but as of now the traitor guard are gone and the only cultists are the ropey old ones

Fairly certain they confirmed new Skellingtons are coming alongside the Wight King,

Warhammer Community wrote:This is the Wight King (although you can paint him any colour that you like) and he’s not coming alone – accompanying him are the numberless hordes of the Deathrattle.

Granted not a direct confirmation, but given Skellingtons don’t have a particularly dedicated army right now, I’m willing to bet my prediction is accurate

Cursed City ones may come under Armoured Skellies, or possibly another more elite option?

Second quote (which I really should’ve included already) pretty much confirms it.

Warhammer Community wrote:The necromancers are hard at work as we speak, preparing the legions of the undead to march to war later in the year.

good points there which I hadn't registered. Could even mean a 'full' kit compared to push fit in the game (sword & spear options as GW gives these different rules and the game minis would give a mixed unit?)

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
All those salivating over the lovely new skelligtons etc showing up as a 'normal' AoS release should prepare for disappointment

while it might happen (yes please) it's not certain, and Blackstone fortress teased us with lovely new cultists and traitor guard neither of which made the transition to 40K (except for brief splash release as extra enemies for BSF), but as of now the traitor guard are gone and the only cultists are the ropey old ones

I'd put the odds of those skeletons not seeing a separate release at about 1%. So people shouldn't get too prepared for disappointment. They and the zombies would be perfect for making small easy build boxes ala the banshees or skaven wraiths, or a full unit release like the Chainrasps. It would have been cool if they expanded on the more interesting BSF stuff they way they did with Silver Tower, but it's still a rather separate data point that doesn't tell us much about what they'll do here.

It's the natural progression though, they've been making molds for these boxed games that don't work for individual unit releases, somebody was eventually going to realize this was basically wasting money. And so we see they're simultaneously releasing a new undead army at the same time as they're releasing a boxed game around fighting undead (and releasing an Underworld's warband of vampires) synergizing these separate releases into a greater sales wave. This is why it's important for the skeletons to have a bannerman, which is an odd choice that we certainly didn't see in Silver Tower. But people should definitely be prepared for these skeleton models to replace the old rank-and-file kit.

I don't expect there being new skeleton warriors coming up. Despite the fact that I really like these new ones I have seen.

I do expect there being new zombies but not ones that are staked and carrying tombstones on their backs.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

while it might happen (yes please) it's not certain, and Blackstone fortress teased us with lovely new cultists and traitor guard neither of which made the transition to 40K (except for brief splash release as extra enemies for BSF), but as of now the traitor guard are gone and the only cultists are the ropey old ones

Right now the cultists from Escalation are the only ones still available (they're in the 40k section) - the old ones are sold out.

 frankelee wrote:

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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
All those salivating over the lovely new skelligtons etc showing up as a 'normal' AoS release should prepare for disappointment

while it might happen (yes please) it's not certain, and Blackstone fortress teased us with lovely new cultists and traitor guard neither of which made the transition to 40K (except for brief splash release as extra enemies for BSF), but as of now the traitor guard are gone and the only cultists are the ropey old ones

I'd put the odds of those skeletons not seeing a separate release at about 1%. So people shouldn't get too prepared for disappointment. They and the zombies would be perfect for making small easy build boxes ala the banshees or skaven wraiths, or a full unit release like the Chainrasps. It would have been cool if they expanded on the more interesting BSF stuff they way they did with Silver Tower, but it's still a rather separate data point that doesn't tell us much about what they'll do here.

It's the natural progression though, they've been making molds for these boxed games that don't work for individual unit releases, somebody was eventually going to realize this was basically wasting money. And so we see they're simultaneously releasing a new undead army at the same time as they're releasing a boxed game around fighting undead (and releasing an Underworld's warband of vampires) synergizing these separate releases into a greater sales wave. This is why it's important for the skeletons to have a bannerman, which is an odd choice that we certainly didn't see in Silver Tower. But people should definitely be prepared for these skeleton models to replace the old rank-and-file kit.

I don't think anyone here disagrees that it's a waste of potential not to release many of these models separately, but I'm far less convinced that it's now suddenly almost certainly going to be the case.

In addition to the aforementioned traitor guard and cultists, BSF gave us a potential plastic Preacher/Missionary and a Crusader, Kill Team Rogue Trader had a plastic Death Cult Assassin, and yet my Sisters of Battle are currently expected to be reinforced by rather old metal and resin figures for any of those. (New Ecclesiarchy figures may finally be on the horizon based on some Rumour Engine pics, but what exactly that release will contain is as of yet unknown.) Don't get me wrong, they're still nice sculpts, but they look a bit small next to the new plastics.

Perhaps GW simply views the potential sales of hypothetical separate sets to be more than compensated for by extra sales of the full box sets resulting from not releasing them separately. If all minis would be guaranteed to later be available separately, that would definitely eat into their sales of the full sets, even if some people would only be interested in the former. Now, many who like most of the set's contents will just get the whole box, while those who like a few figures will sell of the remainder, or buy secondhand from those who're selling off the remainder. Whether selling the contents as separate sets is financially preferable will be difficult to calculate, but the "current" strategy must certainly be financially viable anyway, and is a whole lot less effort than creating another +-20 SKUs and many smaller sprues.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

I don't think anyone here disagrees that it's a waste of potential not to release many of these models separately, but I'm far less convinced that it's now suddenly almost certainly going to be the case.

In addition to the aforementioned traitor guard and cultists, BSF gave us a potential plastic Preacher/Missionary and a Crusader, Kill Team Rogue Trader had a plastic Death Cult Assassin, and yet my Sisters of Battle are currently expected to be reinforced by rather old metal and resin figures for any of those. (New Ecclesiarchy figures may finally be on the horizon based on some Rumour Engine pics, but what exactly that release will contain is as of yet unknown.) Don't get me wrong, they're still nice sculpts, but they look a bit small next to the new plastics.

Perhaps GW simply views the potential sales of hypothetical separate sets to be more than compensated for by extra sales of the full box sets resulting from not releasing them separately. If all minis would be guaranteed to later be available separately, that would definitely eat into their sales of the full sets, even if some people would only be interested in the former. Now, many who like most of the set's contents will just get the whole box, while those who like a few figures will sell of the remainder, or buy secondhand from those who're selling off the remainder. Whether selling the contents as separate sets is financially preferable will be difficult to calculate, but the "current" strategy must certainly be financially viable anyway, and is a whole lot less effort than creating another +-20 SKUs and many smaller sprues.

Well I don't think we should get lost down the "There's the one way of doing things, so GW did it this way, so that's the way they'll do everything for now and forever" that I see on this forum all the time. BSF isn't this release. 40K isn't AoS. So what happened with those releases isn't totally irrelevant, it's just not particularly relevant. And it can't reliably be used to predict anything at all.

But then we're also getting stuck down the one-way path in this discussion concerning reusing models. I wouldn't look for everything in the Cursed City box see individual release, I don't know if anyone was suggesting that would happen but that is very doubtful. But that again is totally separate from the "trooper" type models seeing separate release, which they kind of obviously will. I know there's this instinct to say if GW did it that way in the past it must make 100% total sense, but that's not true either, so guessing that there's some excellent financial reasoning that the skeletons won't come out separately is just not really based in reality. The fact is lots of releases use unit box models in them, like the Kill Team starters or Warhammer Quest Shadows over Hammerhal, so that we're going to see that happen in reverse order with these skeletons and probably these zombies really shouldn't actually be that hard for people to wrap their heads around.

If you run a Soulblight army (if I'm remembering the name correctly) you'll probably want more than 10 or 20 trooper models, so I'm not sure that's a problem for sales anyway. But the skeletons are almost certainly coming out separately, and it does extend the value of the development and mold making for those models, so it again, shouldn't come as a surprise to anybody when this happens.

We've seen two models from the new Soulblight range proper and neither had any of the eastern flair seen in the CC undead. Both carry on the aesthetic set down with the (7th?) WFB VC revamp.

I seem to be in the minority, and dont like these skeletons. They're all posed like they're at a photoshoot or the end of a catwalk, which makes them look like they're trying to be 'edgy' but failing. I really like the skeletons we already have in desthrattle, that look like they're actually going to use their weapons rather than using them as props to pose with. If these skellies see a release separate to cursed city, I hope it's like the cultists of the abyss from BSF - available to use in AOS, but not anything special, and not replacing any.

I was super excited for this, but there are so many models in this set that don't do anything for me. I can't justify this at any price it's likely to be for the few that are amazing or great. Guess I'll be watching ebay for when people inevitably split it up.

As someone who is just starting on a Vampire Counts army as a collection / painting project, I feel like the timing was perfect for all these new undead minis getting released. I was already planning on adding the sepulchral guard to my regular skellies, but now I've got my eye on that lovely new Wight King to add to my planned Black Knights unit. And I was also planning on grabbing some Hobbit wild wargs as Dire Wolves, but do you think they might be getting a new kit now? The old VC wolves are in dire (hehe) need of an update, alongside zombos. I'm not liking these tombestone ones, but maybe they'll do a less busy, less 'dynamic' box of 10 regular zombies down the line?

Anyway, seems like the perfect time to be an undead collector in terms of that old school WHFB Vampire Counts vibe (like me)!

Ashaar wrote:
I seem to be in the minority, and dont like these skeletons. They're all posed like they're at a photoshoot or the end of a catwalk, which makes them look like they're trying to be 'edgy' but failing.

A bizarre take. They're posed like marionettes, which is pretty common as skeletons go.

JSG wrote:

Ashaar wrote:
I seem to be in the minority, and dont like these skeletons. They're all posed like they're at a photoshoot or the end of a catwalk, which makes them look like they're trying to be 'edgy' but failing.

A bizarre take. They're posed like marionettes, which is pretty common as skeletons go.

That was my impression from the first reveal of the Captain. And it’s kinda fitting in my opinion.

Ashaar wrote:
I seem to be in the minority, and dont like these skeletons. They're all posed like they're at a photoshoot or the end of a catwalk, which makes them look like they're trying to be 'edgy' but failing. I really like the skeletons we already have in desthrattle, that look like they're actually going to use their weapons rather than using them as props to pose with. If these skellies see a release separate to cursed city, I hope it's like the cultists of the abyss from BSF - available to use in AOS, but not anything special, and not replacing any.

I was super excited for this, but there are so many models in this set that don't do anything for me. I can't justify this at any price it's likely to be for the few that are amazing or great. Guess I'll be watching ebay for when people inevitably split it up.

I feel the same too. I am still very exctited about Cursed City but I think its because I wanted a Warhammer Quest in general and ever since warcry I prefer AoS to 40k so I am glad i didnt buy BSF. (Maybe its because I dont play Space Marines and 40k is only Space Marines now. And with Underworlds we have lots of new cool models for every AoS faction.)

I like that the bad guys are creatures of the darkness and not just chaos warriors but to tell you the thuth I was expecting better models. I have something bad to say about many models but mostly about the units. Maybe its because they found one cool thing and did it to everyone. A skeleton just standing there, looking right at your soul with his empty gaze? A zombie carring his own tombstone? Both Sound really cool but if you do that with EVERY model, its not the same anymore...

Ashaar wrote:
I seem to be in the minority, and dont like these skeletons. They're all posed like they're at a photoshoot or the end of a catwalk, which makes them look like they're trying to be 'edgy' but failing.

It's because there're only 2 bodies, so it's easier to notice they all have the same flatten, 2d poses. Still look pretty good for a lesser minions.

 straken619 wrote:


I feel the same too. I am still very exctited about Cursed City but I think its because I wanted a Warhammer Quest in general and ever since warcry I prefer AoS to 40k so I am glad i didnt buy BSF. (Maybe its because I dont play Space Marines and 40k is only Space Marines now. And with Underworlds we have lots of new cool models for every AoS faction.)

There're 0 space marine on the hero side, there're 2 chaos space marine and 1 chaos lord on the other side.

 frankelee wrote:
I'd put the odds of those skeletons not seeing a separate release at about 1%.

They're snap fits with minimal options, likely on a shared sprue with a bunch of other Cursed City chaff. I don't see them getting a release when a proper Vampire release looms on the horizon.