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The Ossiarch skeletons are very small compared to most modern GW sculpts, I think the Ulfenwatch will tower over them.

Are there any good comparison shots of these heroes in the ranges they go with? Cities of Sigmar for example or the vamp stuff with other vampires etc.

Compared to the marine it makes it look like they’d be bigger than anything else..?

I found a comparison of Mortek Guard with other Death infantry:



Frome here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/dt4ip9/all_are_nagash_size_comparison_of_all_4_major/

Judging from that, Mortek Guard are about half a head taller than the old Skeleton Warriors, which works for me in my book, but then the Ulfenwatch Skeletons are a full head taller judging from the other picture, so they are indeed taller.

I wonder what will happen to Grave Guard in the new Soulblight book, maybe they'll become Warhammer Legends models?

Hm, both are on very tall bases, although the ossiarch's one seems bigger... would be nice to see them on more normal ones xD

Hmm, rolling dice and consulting charts to see what the result means so that you know what dice you have to roll after that... such a cool concept! Happy 1985, everyone, by the way!

Ash has some thoughts after 3 games
https://youtu.be/Yebp-obSqzk

(spoiler: sings praises to gameplay improvements but is worried about grind)

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Ash has some thoughts after 3 games
https://youtu.be/Yebp-obSqzk

(spoiler: sings praises to gameplay improvements but is worried about grind)

Also makes me think it would be a good idea to do squad-based activation in BSF.

 stahly wrote:
I found a comparison of Mortek Guard with other Death infantry:



Frome here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ageofsigmar/comments/dt4ip9/all_are_nagash_size_comparison_of_all_4_major/

Judging from that, Mortek Guard are about half a head taller than the old Skeleton Warriors, which works for me in my book, but then the Ulfenwatch Skeletons are a full head taller judging from the other picture, so they are indeed taller.

I wonder what will happen to Grave Guard in the new Soulblight book, maybe they'll become Warhammer Legends models?

I imagine Grave Guard will be in the new Soulblight book considering we are getting a new Wight Lord with the book’s release.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Ash has some thoughts after 3 games
https://youtu.be/Yebp-obSqzk

(spoiler: sings praises to gameplay improvements but is worried about grind)

Jesus Christ he needs to stand still when he records this stuff. I got seasick from the first 30 seconds.

Thats a hell of a paintjob on that ghost. Smooth transition

The comments from Ash sound promising. It's good to get an actual review before the game comes out. Given the format of the game it would be great if upcoming expansions feature new mission types that can get mixed into the base game rather than the one off quests that Blackstone fortress had.
It's looking like this will be the best modern quest game from gw and I'm genuinely excited to play it.

GW still being coy on reprint - was told on Dakka that they'd "confirmed it on facebook" so did some digging but as recently as sunday they were saying "if we get any updates on availability we'll share them", not "yes it's getting a reprint". So FWIW I think that should probably be revised to unconfirmed unless someone has something more substantial

I never saw a confirmation anywhere.
Yet I’m 99% sure (100 really) that it will be current stock as prior quests were. There’s no reason at all they’d suddenly just decide to redo the Warhammer Quest format to drop it and move on.
Even more so because of the fact that it sold out so quick. There’s obviously a big potential for more sales.

I don’t know why anyone would think it’s not going to be main product.

Billicus wrote:
GW still being coy on reprint - was told on Dakka that they'd "confirmed it on facebook" so did some digging but as recently as sunday they were saying "if we get any updates on availability we'll share them", not "yes it's getting a reprint". So FWIW I think that should probably be revised to unconfirmed unless someone has something more substantial

I think it's pretty much guaranteed we will be getting a reprint. You know they have expansions planned for this like Blackstone Fortress, and they can't very well sell those if people don't have access to the game. My LGS told me when I placed my preorder (a week ago) that he already had 20 preorders and was only getting 8 copies, but he was sourcing some through different distributors and he had contacted GW. GW told him they would be able to get him all the copies for his preorders and more, but it was more of a matter of when. In conclusion his sales rep told him "we'll have more copies, it's just a matter of when." I think it comes down to GW not having production capability to meet demand for their products (and splitting production between so many products), being extremely bad at forecasting sales, and their community team not having any idea what is going on with the sales side of things (or the rules side of things, or the product contents side of things) and not wanting to shoot themselves in the foot.

That's not to say it isn't possible we won't get a reprint, but I'd say 95% chance we get one, and likely relatively soon with how fast this sold out. No one wants to leave that much money on the table.

Billicus wrote:
GW still being coy on reprint - was told on Dakka that they'd "confirmed it on facebook" so did some digging but as recently as sunday they were saying "if we get any updates on availability we'll share them", not "yes it's getting a reprint". So FWIW I think that should probably be revised to unconfirmed unless someone has something more substantial

I went back and checked all the preorder notices on GW officinal accounts. It was the posts on the 40k account where they said specifically cursed city would be a line item and back in stock.

But i am starting to be concerned that wires were crossed somewhere and between pre order and release the company told all the employees tthat this was a one time only thing. Hence the change in stance regarding reprints.


Edit to add i see Wayland Games website says its a single print run.

If this was a one-run-print then it won't recieve White Dwarf articles throughout the year.

With its potential cross over with AoS and Warcry, possibly Underworlds, its pretty much a given you'll be able to get this for at least the next year.

I don't GW has sold nearly enough of Cursed City boxes for them to be happy with realeasing multiple expansions for it as of right now. It sold out immediately (for once I don't think scalpers are -too- much to blame) and if that doesn't tell them there's a market for it then what will? Also, what was the adoption rate of expansions for BSF, half the people who bought the base game maybe? That seems like they're shrinking their market too much..

I certainly wouldn't worry that it's coming back in stock, but I'd guess it might be a while. I assume they wouldn't want to restock like 500 boxes worldwide but rather wait until they have maybe 5000 rather so it doesn't immediately evaporate again..

Okay yeah, in the replies to the comments of the reshare of the announcement post they say it will be back shortly after if it sells out. That was back on march 28th, being a bit more coy since then. How are they so bad at this? Would've been trivial to queue up a community post in the CMS announcing the 2nd wave.

Billicus wrote:
GW still being coy on reprint - was told on Dakka that they'd "confirmed it on facebook" so did some digging but as recently as sunday they were saying "if we get any updates on availability we'll share them", not "yes it's getting a reprint". So FWIW I think that should probably be revised to unconfirmed unless someone has something more substantial

Awaiting updates can be as much an “if” as “we don’t know exactly when”.

These are not usual times. And with GW outsourcing their rule books and cardboard components, getting everything together in one place is likely a tricky process in the current climate.

Which is why they really need to bit the bullet and open their own print shop in the U.K.

Yes it’s more expensive (my family were heavily involved in the U.K. print industry, and let’s just say there’s a reason a lot is outsourced, and it’s not something U.K. print houses can really compete with) but it removes supply issues almost entirely. Provided you can get the paper stock, you’re golden. It’s the skills of those producing the goodies that gets expensive, because a good print machine, well maintained, will run for decades. At least Grandad’s ones did!

By the way, did I misinterpret or did Ash say in that GMG video that the 5 decapitation missions are in addition to those 12 you're doing to level up before facing Radukar? Meaning you're playing at least 18 missions to beat the game? That seems like a whole lot, it sounded like a lot to me even when I thought those 5 missions were included in the overall 12. But this just seems a bit gratuitous, no?

PiñaColada wrote:
By the way, did I misinterpret or did Ash say in that GMG video that the 5 decapitation missions are in addition to those 12 you're doing to level up before facing Radukar? Meaning you're playing at least 18 missions to beat the game? That seems like a whole lot, it sounded like a lot to me even when I thought those 5 missions were included in the overall 12. But this just seems a bit gratuitous, no?

I think he misspoke, there's no reason why Decapitation missions wouldn't count for leveling up.

But I also think the Fear/Influence management will force you to fight significantly more than 12 missions.

Also the 12 assumes you have a fixed team of 4. If you lose a guy you'll have to spend time leveling up a newbie.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
These are not usual times.

That excuse is wearing mighty thin, especially when it comes to really simple questions like "Hey, you gonna make more of this one?".

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
These are not usual times.

That excuse is wearing mighty thin, especially when it comes to really simple questions like "Hey, you gonna make more of this one?".

It's been over a year and a half. Pandemic should be the New normal and every Corporation should've already adjusted a long time ago.

they were already running at max capacity at their factory (and already had problems meeting demand, with new releases often hard to get hold of at launch and only re-appearing weeks later)

so with covid restrictions in place there's no way they can boost output (except perhaps by subcontracting stuff, and covid is screwing that up too as even their normal stuff isn't coming in from China)

Edit: though I guess they could just cut releases substantially to be fair, that would work, but I suspect most people would not be happy

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
they were already running at max capacity at their factory (and already had problems meeting demand, with new releases often hard to get hold of at launch and only re-appearing weeks later)

so with covid restrictions in place there's no way they can boost output (except perhaps by subcontracting stuff, and covid is screwing that up too as even their normal stuff isn't coming in from China)

Neither of which precludes them from telling us that they intent (or do not intend) to print more copies of Cursed City.

I believe the biggest problem is that for some reason GW likes to keep everything a secret.
Is Radukar a vampire? Will we get rules for warcry? Will you print more?

Just say a yes or no. Eventually they always do just not in the beginning. Maybe because that way everyone talks about their products. I cant think of any other reason.

That being said. I am sure they said Cursed City will not be limited (although right now it seems like it is).
And based on the map of Ulfenkarn they have at least 2-3 expansions and we already know about 2 models that are connected to Cursed City (Meaning people will buy them and then want to buy Cursed City too).
It makes no sense to sell expansions for a game that you dont sell anymore.

People get far too panicked over things. Of course this will have continued production, the same way that of course it didn't cost $300. GW should absolutely do a better job communicating with their customers, but in my experience that requires initiative and work on the part of actual higher ups, the people in the company least likely to have initiative or do work.

If you could play Cursed City by just buying the rulebook and $500 worth of miniatures and terrain, I'd say be a little worried, but it ain't, so breathe easy if you didn't get a copy. It'll be here for years.

It's hardly panic, just discussing the comings and goings of GW. Cursed City has been showing as "no longer available online" on the webstore since saturday, which is not a label you particularly want to have on something you intend to sell down the line. For a recent parallel, Indomitus went up for preorder on the 11th of July and they announced the Made to Order run on the 13th of July. Even allowing for the bank holiday weekend I'd be expecting an announcement today if they have any plans of reprinting.

Piety and Pain has reappeared on the UK webstore though, was that showing as No Longer Available Online before? Maybe this is just how they do this now. Hell, why bother telling people stuff

The lack of concrete information is far from ideal, but bear in mind we have just had a long Easter Bank holiday weekend. I doubt anyone from the Warcom team was in the office Sunday or Monday. So maybe we get some more concrete news later today? Or the production and sales teams are meeting or scheduled to meet to say when and how many more copies can be produced? These things take time and cannot just be arranged at the drop of a hat.

Billicus wrote:
It's hardly panic, just discussing the comings and goings of GW. Cursed City has been showing as "no longer available online" on the webstore since saturday, which is not a label you particularly want to have on something you intend to sell down the line. For a recent parallel, Indomitus went up for preorder on the 11th of July and they announced the Made to Order run on the 13th of July. Even allowing for the bank holiday weekend I'd be expecting an announcement today if they have any plans of reprinting.

Piety and Pain has reappeared on the UK webstore though, was that showing as No Longer Available Online before? Maybe this is just how they do this now. Hell, why bother telling people stuff

Ah that's a bit worrying, eBay scalpers looking at this piece of news: