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Voss wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
Went to a Warmachine tournament once where a guy scooped and spent the whole time he was packing up verbally abusing me for being a WAAC-er because he didn't believe waterfalling combined attacks existed.

Not going to excuse the abuse, but the 'waterfall' CRA/CMA was terribly explained. I met quite a few people over the years that didn't understand it or believe the rules were meant to work that way.
Towards the end of Mark 2 there were quite a few absurd combos of abilities that people would try to demonstrate without really understanding (or being able to explain), and just referred to rules infernal posts while simply stating that things worked that way now.

One of the things that really turned me off on the game was a press ganger showing up and deciding he needed to convert the usual game nights into basically a boot camp for tournaments, showing off the most absurd exploits the rules allowed to get people 'in the right mindset.' Didn't help that he was deliberately poaching players for events at another store as well, trying to shift people from what was a local store for most of them to a place 30 miles down the road (which for me meant an hour+ travel time rather than 45 minute travel time each way), and undercutting sales of the LGS in favor of this other shop.

He also convinced people they needed to use the felt bits pushed by PP's Steamroller scenarios, rather than the actual terrain on hand in store, which infuriated me, because they look like gak and undercut part of the point of playing a miniatures game.

That was definitely one of the weirdest experiences, especially since I couldn't figure out why. He was from another town entirely, and neither store was local for him. 'Ours' was technically closer, but I guess he just liked the other more.
But the 'you've got to learn it right' attitude sucked a lot of the fun out.

That Is really sad :( we try really hard to avoid things like that where I am, even if we do push players to think about the game we still want it to be fun and inviting. Good terrain is a must I think for these games as well :(

One of the weirdest return encounters I am still confused by, is how much hate my eldar get from players I have never met before that seems to be entirely connected to being a girl.
From people that have never seen my army before, and seem keen for me to join but make playing with them entirely unwelcome feeling.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
Went to a Warmachine tournament once where a guy scooped and spent the whole time he was packing up verbally abusing me for being a WAAC-er because he didn't believe waterfalling combined attacks existed.

Well at least you used some sort of rules combo.

Ages ago (3rd? 4th?) I found myself playing in a rather low key tourney at GenCon. If there were prizes I forget, but given the low entry fee it couldn't have been anything more than promo swag.
1st couple of games go ok. Nothing memorable, just some 40k.....
The 3rd game? I get paired with this Guard player. He had an ok infantry heavy army. (his heaviest unit was a trio of sentinels). So I'm expecting just another average game. Decent IG vs my pure 3rd Co. Dark Angels.

That's... not what I got.
The guy deploys his guard in a perfect I_ pattern block starting with a mortar battery in the back corner & then building consecutive rings of units outwards. Each ring blocking LoS to/from the ring behind it.
His outside ring? 3 sentinels on the l, & all of his other heavy weapons on the __ facing.

Um, ok?

I get 1st turn.
My DAs roll up to their own heavy weapons range, hop out of their razorbacks & rhinos, and then the Razorbacks + 1 dread proceed to turn his sentinel wall into a wall of burning LoS blocking wreckage.
My whirlwind drops a template on most of his heavy weapons + the units right behind them.
His tun is very short as his front ring units are either killed or pinned. And now they're blocking everything else in.
My Angels take some ineffective mortar fire.
He reveals an assassin & goes after my HQ guy & command squad (wich I had sent off towards the objective).

Turn two....
I don't have to move anywhere for the bulk of my army.
I send my jump squad over to help rake care of the assassin.
I put a whirlwind template dead center of his block (seriously, only on the worst possible scatter could I even miss - I did not get the worst result). It was like shooting fish in a barrel....
And every thing that had more than a 24" range? Peeled the massively pinned IG block like an onion.

His turn was even quicker than the 1st.
He didn't even try & move anything that had unpinned.

3rd turn?
Repeat the shooting sequence.
And I sent in the jump squad to mop up the survivors in melee.

He had no 3rd turn.

He got quite huffy & accused me of poor sportsmanship for shooting his army.

 CEO Kasen wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Many moons ago I brought my newly painted Salamander army to the first store I had been frequenting. Another regular showed up and noticed my new army. He said he had just recently finished an army as well and suggested we play a game. I agreed, then he proceeded to unpack his 2500 point "Space Marine bike army" which consisted of dozens of SM bike sized My Little Pony toys that he had glued bases, shoulder pads, and weaponry on. I was quite young at the time, and lacked the ability to politely decline. That was the day I was absolutely tabled by an army of ponies.

Very embarrassing day, as we had set the game table up on the sidewalk since it was nice out and the store was packed.

Funny you should mention that...

 TheWaspinator wrote:


https://www.patreon.com/m/2796010/posts

Not gonna lie, those space marine ponies are actually pretty cool

Weirdest. Well, out of my life I've seen/had two.

The first was against a guy, don't remember his name as we used nick names, lets call him Wishy-washy. We called him that because he always said his models were wishy-washy no matter how many times we explained it was WYSIWYG, not wishy-washy.

So Wishy demands I play a game vs him, 5th ed I have my guard he has Orks. Takes me awhile to deploy my 2000 pt mostly foot guard. He takes a long time with his orks, takes the slowest game turn known to man, had 0 long range weapons at all. Fires a big shoota at chimera, fails to do anything as his only first turn shooting.

Then I get ready to take my first turn, and he promptly quits, saying that was his best shot and he can't possibly win now. I never fired a shot.


Another tale with him, was an apoc game I was running. I'm helping the players do some large and confusing CC mess, and all of the sudden the whole table shakes and rattles. I look over and its wishy-washy, he'd slapped his hands on the table. I asked " What's up ? " He said " Nothing " then got up to use the bathroom so I talked to the player sitting next to him ( Justin ) who looked shocked. Justin informed me he had been just sitting there then all of a sudden wishy slammed onto the table and looked to Justin and said " I tripped over my own two feet. " To which Justin said " But, you are sitting down. " Wishy then responded " Yeah "....


I'll drop a third one, of watching a game be played. The guy I knew was Dave and the other player, I never got his name he didn't talk much. He had a beautiful Guard army, even the old metal ogryns and rough riders all painted, based and great.

In any case Dave was playing Marines and this guy played Guard and the player looked like your average dweeb. Dave asked me to see if I could find out what was up, as he'd been in his turn for over an hour just talking to himself and rolling dice and pointing around on the table. Then, all of a sudden the dweeb guy just stopped playing, and began putting all his models away. No explanation, nothing.

I asked if all was ok he said " Yeah " So I figured he didn't know what to do with the game or had been an edition behind and explained we had copies of the rules if he needed them, he pulled out a leather bound collectors copy of the rules, one of those like 100$ 200$ ones, not sure how much it was at the time. He packed it all up, said nothing else and went outside and just stood on the curb waiting for something. Till a couple hours went by and he got picked up and left, never saw him again.

To this day I still don't know what the deal was with that game, I just know we have some real odd folk who play this game.

 AngryAngel80 wrote:
Weirdest. Well, out of my life I've seen/had two.

The first was against a guy, don't remember his name as we used nick names, lets call him Wishy-washy. We called him that because he always said his models were wishy-washy no matter how many times we explained it was WYSIWYG, not wishy-washy.

So Wishy demands I play a game vs him, 5th ed I have my guard he has Orks. Takes me awhile to deploy my 2000 pt mostly foot guard. He takes a long time with his orks, takes the slowest game turn known to man, had 0 long range weapons at all. Fires a big shoota at chimera, fails to do anything as his only first turn shooting.

Then I get ready to take my first turn, and he promptly quits, saying that was his best shot and he can't possibly win now. I never fired a shot.


Another tale with him, was an apoc game I was running. I'm helping the players do some large and confusing CC mess, and all of the sudden the whole table shakes and rattles. I look over and its wishy-washy, he'd slapped his hands on the table. I asked " What's up ? " He said " Nothing " then got up to use the bathroom so I talked to the player sitting next to him ( Justin ) who looked shocked. Justin informed me he had been just sitting there then all of a sudden wishy slammed onto the table and looked to Justin and said " I tripped over my own two feet. " To which Justin said " But, you are sitting down. " Wishy then responded " Yeah "....


I'll drop a third one, of watching a game be played. The guy I knew was Dave and the other player, I never got his name he didn't talk much. He had a beautiful Guard army, even the old metal ogryns and rough riders all painted, based and great.

In any case Dave was playing Marines and this guy played Guard and the player looked like your average dweeb. Dave asked me to see if I could find out what was up, as he'd been in his turn for over an hour just talking to himself and rolling dice and pointing around on the table. Then, all of a sudden the dweeb guy just stopped playing, and began putting all his models away. No explanation, nothing.

I asked if all was ok he said " Yeah " So I figured he didn't know what to do with the game or had been an edition behind and explained we had copies of the rules if he needed them, he pulled out a leather bound collectors copy of the rules, one of those like 100$ 200$ ones, not sure how much it was at the time. He packed it all up, said nothing else and went outside and just stood on the curb waiting for something. Till a couple hours went by and he got picked up and left, never saw him again.

To this day I still don't know what the deal was with that game, I just know we have some real odd folk who play this game.

Without proposing and making too many assumptions, but reading many a story like this in multiple different situations.... There are many many many people who struggle with social interactions for one reason or another, some maybe because of lack of social interactions as a child, some because they may be on some form of spectrum etc... I also think games like this can draw such people to it, there's plenty of things they love about it, but then they may get too caught up in stats and mathhammer also and lack the social skills and etiquette to be polite and finish a game. Significantly different to a WAAC/sore loser.

Best way to deal with being bad at social interactions is to not engage in them. If you are wierd in person, don't talk to the other player, unless asked about something, don't try to talk jokes, because most of the time they will not be funny to others and practicaly every time get you in to trouble. And don't start debates about lore, history, politics in w40k or real world.

After trail and error, I found out that the okey topics to mention are. Weather, because it is always bad. Traffic, because it is always bad. And cost of getting to the store, because gas and bus tickets get more and more expensive.

Every other thing, and especially some sort of history of my life thing, will only get people in to trouble. So if someone wants to play on a regular basis, and not be kicked out, the keeping your mouth shut is a good way to act.

And to be honest, considering the quality of most talks at stores, people aren't missing much not participating in them.

Karol wrote:
Best way to deal with being bad at social interactions is to not engage in them. If you are wierd in person, don't talk to the other player, unless asked about something, don't try to talk jokes, because most of the time they will not be funny to others and practicaly every time get you in to trouble. And don't start debates about lore, history, politics in w40k or real world.

After trail and error, I found out that the okey topics to mention are. Weather, because it is always bad. Traffic, because it is always bad. And cost of getting to the store, because gas and bus tickets get more and more expensive.

Every other thing, and especially some sort of history of my life thing, will only get people in to trouble. So if someone wants to play on a regular basis, and not be kicked out, the keeping your mouth shut is a good way to act.

And to be honest, considering the quality of most talks at stores, people aren't missing much not participating in them.

What? That's terrible advice. You don't have to tell anybody you life story, but to improve at social interactions, you have to engage in social interactions.

Tiberias wrote:

Karol wrote:
Best way to deal with being bad at social interactions is to not engage in them. If you are wierd in person, don't talk to the other player, unless asked about something, don't try to talk jokes, because most of the time they will not be funny to others and practicaly every time get you in to trouble. And don't start debates about lore, history, politics in w40k or real world.

After trail and error, I found out that the okey topics to mention are. Weather, because it is always bad. Traffic, because it is always bad. And cost of getting to the store, because gas and bus tickets get more and more expensive.

Every other thing, and especially some sort of history of my life thing, will only get people in to trouble. So if someone wants to play on a regular basis, and not be kicked out, the keeping your mouth shut is a good way to act.

And to be honest, considering the quality of most talks at stores, people aren't missing much not participating in them.

What? That's terrible advice. You don't have to tell anybody you life story, but to improve at social interactions, you have to engage in social interactions.

It's also discounting the level of understanding/ability to understand social interactions as well i.e. my comment about people being on the spectrum above. Even in such a situation, social interactions should be encouraged and whilst they may never get to a level where they are truly competent at understanding social interactions, they can improve/develop coping strategies for such situations that doesn't exclude themselves or others. The suggestion above is just a really really sad idea that will lead to more problems, including potential health problems.

I would say this partially depends on finding a peer group that are tolerant and accepting. Not everyone is tolerant of difference and it can be pretty bruising to be exposed to that.

 Da Boss wrote:
I would say this partially depends on finding a peer group that are tolerant and accepting. Not everyone is tolerant of difference and it can be pretty bruising to be exposed to that.

Valid point, it's a shame, it's really not that much effort to educate yourself and be empathetic/understanding of certain peoples needs. It's fairly second nature after a while.

From my past experiences as a GW Till Monkey, you do indeed get odd’uns in the hobby.

And sure, some kids can be a right pain in the neck.

The thing to remember? These kids are just as Nerdy as us. They’re quite likely the victim of bullying at school. The hobby (regardless of game or company) is the same haven for them as it is for us. It’s entirely possible it’s an important link in their own chain of sanity. A literal safe space where they can just enjoy what they enjoy, with nobody giving them a hard time.

Important thing? They are not lost causes. Whilst no staff member should be parenting them, you can still be a mentor of sorts. Just set your own boundaries. Push back when they push those boundaries. And clamp down hard on any in-store bullying of any stripe.

The same goes for any gaming group and members of any age. We Are Adults. We should act like it.

Trust me, it’s a genuinely excellent feeling when you see someone grow and develop their social skills.

Karol wrote:
Best way to deal with being bad at social interactions is to not engage in them. If you are wierd in person, don't talk to the other player, unless asked about something, don't try to talk jokes, because most of the time they will not be funny to others and practicaly every time get you in to trouble. And don't start debates about lore, history, politics in w40k or real world.

After trail and error, I found out that the okey topics to mention are. Weather, because it is always bad. Traffic, because it is always bad. And cost of getting to the store, because gas and bus tickets get more and more expensive.

Every other thing, and especially some sort of history of my life thing, will only get people in to trouble. So if someone wants to play on a regular basis, and not be kicked out, the keeping your mouth shut is a good way to act.

And to be honest, considering the quality of most talks at stores, people aren't missing much not participating in them.

Karol man, some of your posts fill me with sadness. You may be bad at social interactions, but you honestly seem (to me anyway) like a nice person, so let me say this: hang in there bro ! Things will get better.
I kind of agree with you about not "too" saying much, it is good advice in many situations actually, though indeed as it was said, one does need to stick a neck out there sometimes to improve social skills. It may be more about self confidence than getting better through trial and error though

I had a regular and highly competitive opponent who got increasingly stressed about tournament games with me due to the dice gods taking a personal interest in our games*.

Eventually we got to playing in a doubles tournament that had gathered enough local players to rent a hall and get prizes together. The guy had some unstoppable early 6e cron flyer shenanigans going on and was walking into the tournament win. On cue the dice gods descended for our game on the first turn with a statistically improbable string of 1s and 6s and he just put down his models and wandered out of the building into the rain holding his head and muttering to himself.

Never turned up to one of our events again, though I did see him a few years later with another (younger) group using his patented 'move the ruler with the model' technique, well on his way to earning Nuffles wrath a second time.


(* seriously, one time he lost a bloodbowl tournament to me after 3-4 successive riots - at a 5% chance of each plus high rolls on the subsequent D6s for duration and clock off - and I wouldn't consider that the worst of them.)

Tiberias 795929 11048774 wrote:

What? That's terrible advice. You don't have to tell anybody you life story, but to improve at social interactions, you have to engage in social interactions.

Yes and if you are bad at them, and I am a clinical example of it, the best way to engage in social interaction is to limit it to bare minimum. The less they do stuff, there fewer points there are for you to mess up and end up with a life long store ban. And while I imagine this isn't a problem in places where people play at homes, in places and for people that can only play in stores, a life ban like that is saying good bye to the hobby. It really isn't worth trying to make jokes or talk stuff, to risk that. It is like school or work.

Even in such a situation, social interactions should be encouraged and whilst they may never get to a level where they are truly competent at understanding social interactions, they can improve/develop coping strategies for such situations that doesn't exclude themselves or others.

That is a very high risk low reward kind of a life style and you generaly learn stuff, when it is too late. You the stuff like you made a joke and got kicked out of school, the exact same joke was told to the same teacher two weeks before. And you learn that yes, the local fire depertaments granddaughter is allowed to say things you can not say. Or you are asked to pick and talk about politician , from 100years ago, who you think was the main founding father of your country. Only to find out after 6 years, that your teachers who started bullying you just right after that history lesson, is a follower of a different political camp. But of course you being new to the school didn't knew that, and your parents weren't important enough localy to somehow make you immune to stuff like that. And even small stuff like talking bad about the store owner, other dudes can say stuff to his face, that would get you kicked out of store for ever. And you only know that, because you saw other people kicked out of the store. etc

Social interactions are good, when you are either good at them or you have, what we call, big shoulders. It is much easier to be talking crazy stuff, if your older brother or younger uncle happens to be at the same school too. It is like you are litterally treated as a different person then others.
Or when you are the person who the trainer plans to sell to a professional team, the stuff you can do to others and everyone just ignores it is baffling to someone who doesn't get interactions at first. The safest thing to do is do what you are told, not step out of the line and if you want to talk, then talk to people in your head or family. It is more then enough, and safe too, as long you don't do it in public. Because learning that talking to yourself is not okey, is harsh lesson to learn.

The guy had some unstoppable early 6e cron flyer shenanigans going on and was walking into the tournament win. On cue the dice gods descended for our game on the first turn with a statistically improbable string of 1s and 6s and he just put down his models and wandered out of the building into the rain holding his head and muttering to himself

I actually do that too, who knew others act the same. Although getting angry after one event, unless it was like something big, with money involved is probably not the healthiest of things to do. On the other side though, unless it is reading downloaded books, what isn't related to money if one does w40k?

My local GW has had some interesting situations from time to time.
Once had this 40ish-year-old man grab my (14 at the time) Necron codex out my hands to prove I'd not paid the right points in a friendly kill team game he wasn't a part of.
A late-night AoS tourney (the fun kind where everyone bribes opponents with snacks) we had a kid who the day before had cheated in every game he played on the casual AoS day. He was told not to cheat at the tourney, which led to him losing some of his games. In the last game, he did really badly, lost his temper, and threw his dice at the wall. He never came back after that.
The best thing to ever happen was during the Edinburgh Fringe where a guy in full Halo Spartan gear came in and let everyone take pictures with him. For a bunch of halo obsessed 14-year-olds it was pretty great.

One of the "old guard" at the FLGS could really project his inner jerk if you figured out a combo he wasn't expecting.

In 4th edition we were having a mega-battle (pre Apocalypse). The two sides agreed to have the battle be Chaos vs Imperial. We also agreed that there would only be one of any given special character on the field of any given type. (so no doubling up on Abaddon). In order to use a special character you needed to "register" it with the organizers, one of which was the gentleman in question.

I was playing Imperial Guard, and I had just painted up Cypher, and since his rules (White Dwarf at the time) allowed him to be either Imperial or Chaos, I needed to make sure no one on the Chaos side was taking him. No one else was, so permission was expressly given.

During the battle I deployed a unit of Chaos Marines (Cypher allowed this) to hold an objective. During the game he forgets they are not on his side and ignores them. He then calls foul when I use them to shoot his nearby squad. I get called a rules lawyer for taking Chaos Marines in my Imperial Guard.

He also had issues with the fact that I had several identically armed IG squads. If a unit got wiped off the board, instead of putting them away and then getting out an identical unit from my case when deploying a new unit I'd simply reuse the same models. Somehow this was "cheating".


In another game he accused me of cheating when my Ork Nob killed his librarian with a power claw. He demanded to know "how did that Nob suddenly become a Warboss!?"
I was confused so I asked him to clarify.
"Nobs don't have 6 attacks!!!" ,was his demand.
I had to walk him through it. Orks have 2 attacks standard, 3 for a Nob. +1 attack for charging. +1 attack for two close combat weapons. +1 for Bionics. 6 attacks total.
"Yeah, but is it WYSIWYG with those bionics!?", he asked.
"yes", I replied. He then sulked for the rest of the game.

Voss wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
Went to a Warmachine tournament once where a guy scooped and spent the whole time he was packing up verbally abusing me for being a WAAC-er because he didn't believe waterfalling combined attacks existed.

Not going to excuse the abuse, but the 'waterfall' CRA/CMA was terribly explained. I met quite a few people over the years that didn't understand it or believe the rules were meant to work that way...

Oh, sure, but the punchline to the story is that the thing that really set him off was me saying "All right, you win, I don't think I actually need it in this situation."

For me it was the game where my opponent was wearing a Star of Rhodesia badge on his jean jacket, and he was a very abrasive player. Keep in mind this was a local store, with a GW emblem on it and one of there local reps. I kindly asked the owner about him, and was told there was no problem, as politics are left at the door. That was always weird to me, like, why are you so afraid to make an issue when you see something wrong?

FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
For me it was the game where my opponent was wearing a Star of Rhodesia badge on his jean jacket, and he was a very abrasive player. Keep in mind this was a local store, with a GW emblem on it and one of there local reps. I kindly asked the owner about him, and was told there was no problem, as politics are left at the door. That was always weird to me, like, why are you so afraid to make an issue when you see something wrong?

What’s the significance of the Star of Rhodesia? I googled and I only got stuff relating to Sherlock Holmes.

 Horla wrote:

FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
For me it was the game where my opponent was wearing a Star of Rhodesia badge on his jean jacket, and he was a very abrasive player. Keep in mind this was a local store, with a GW emblem on it and one of there local reps. I kindly asked the owner about him, and was told there was no problem, as politics are left at the door. That was always weird to me, like, why are you so afraid to make an issue when you see something wrong?

What’s the significance of the Star of Rhodesia? I googled and I only got stuff relating to Sherlock Holmes.

Guessing he means the present day flag of Zimbabwe and something something Robert Mugabe...

IIRC: in the US, some White Supremacist types wear outdated Rhodesian flags as a sort of stealth swastika because of Rhodesia's old apartheid policies.

Huh, I actually treated a guy last year who fought in that war. He was an interesting fellow and actually quite a gentleman.

@Matt Swain:

Yeah, bad boys & crazy people don't like tabletop games. Glad you survived that incident. That's stuff you can't make up.

 KidCthulhu wrote:
IIRC: in the US, some White Supremacist types wear outdated Rhodesian flags as a sort of stealth swastika because of Rhodesia's old apartheid policies.

Thanks for clearing that up. I figured it was going to be a fash thing.

I was playing in a 40k tourney, back in 2018. We were 8 fellas in total and the tourney was part of a larger RPG-esque convention, with many nerdy stuff and stores in there.

It was the second round and, at my left, there was a Deathwatch x Tyranids game going on. Everything is great and dandy until we hear a shout from there:

"IT IS NOT STATISTICAL!"

We all checked what happened. Not only us, but at least half of the event crowd also looked at that Deathwatch x Tyranids table. The Deathwatch player was the culprit, pretty mad at himself for his terrible rolls during his entire 2nd or 3rd turn (a specific roll for lascannons triggered him).

We moved there to calm him down; after some minutes, he was ok again and we continued playing. His shout became a meme among our player group and we use it basically every time a bad roll on a crucial moment happens (especially if we've been rolling great beforehand).

 KidCthulhu wrote:
IIRC: in the US, some White Supremacist types wear outdated Rhodesian flags as a sort of stealth swastika because of Rhodesia's old apartheid policies.

In my town the rhodesian fighters are lauded as heroes, because they were fighting communists after the british goverment layed them off, and they couldn't return to Poland, because it came with a risk of prison or death.

We even had a school event dedicted to them, at my middle school. Specially Marian Starak whose family was from our town. His family escaped the USSR through Persia and then India. Settled in the end of 50s in Rhodesia as farmers. His entire family, including both his sisters , were brutaly murdered on their farm near Umtala. School has exposition about him, his father and history of the entire family. Our school director was the grand grand daughter of his grand grand mothers sister.

That can be true at the same time as Rhodesia being a white supremacists apartheid state.

I do hope we are not descending into politics?

Nevermind.

I don't think so, Moriarity.

A post earlier in the thread mentioned a Rhodesian flag as something bad/shocking, people weren't sure why, I threw in my two cents about a small group of American racists, and we got some interesting history lessons.

Back on topic: in third edition 40K, I played Dark Eldar and being a fluffy player, I named all my character models, down to the last succubus and sybarite. There was a player obsessed with trying to kill my one sybarite named Malachite. At one point, he would do things like send three zoanthropes and both his hive tyrants to kill a single a squad of warriors with a sybarite. But he never could. His dice would go south and I'd just dig in and shoot. He'd literally ignore my entire army because he had to kill Malachite. But he never succeeded, not in a dozen games! Oh and the dude was a cheat with movement and guess weapons (he'd use his arm as a ruler). He was also a very sore loser.

When DE got a reboot, Lucky Malachite became my archon

Edited for bad grammar.