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Ideally, since anything he creates with GW will be more or less entirely his vision, but under GW, we shouldn't get weird, disjointed music, since he'll have a chance to choose something appropriate himself
GaroRobe wrote: ... he creates with GW will be more or less entirely his vision...
I'm not so sure of that. GW doesn't really let people run wild with their stuff.
Yeah but its not like the creator actually appears to want to go wild with it. He's not trying to make the MLP Space Marines adventure TV series
Look at all the fantastic stuff that the Creative Arts team have done with Old World - sure they have to check with GW, but in the end they've created some outstanding stuff and even gone off the page some in doing things like the Vampire Pirates army that was just a white dwarf issue and one model (I've dim recollections that the skeleton walking thing got made by FW at some stage?)
GaroRobe wrote: ... he creates with GW will be more or less entirely his vision...
I'm not so sure of that. GW doesn't really let people run wild with their stuff.
There was lots of anecdotal evidence that the staffers loved the series and one would hope, that with his near perfect execution, he showed he had capable hands in handling the IP. But, GW will be GW.
However, it really does need to be stated that this is how far GW has come since the Kirby days. This type of thing would have been C&D'd so quickly in the dark times and GW should get some credit for endorsing and involving fan creators. Something I'm not sure some of the Hollywood outfits would do. On that note it seems amazing to me that they haven't commissioned some of the other miniature designers for the myriad guard regiments etc.
I think it’s pretty lazy of GW just put a stamp on a existing product to make it official lore rather than creating from ground up; good for the artist/s getting rewarded for their hard work.
I think it's great that his work was well-done enough to garner positive attention from GW. I am certainly looking forward to see more of Syama's work.
However, I don't expect this will end well. It may take a few years before the creator pulls away, but I do think it will be inevitable - likely when they clamp down on "approving" what he's actually animating and begin dictating what stories to tell.
I am downloading a copy of Astartes for my own future viewing. When this goes south, I suspect the original version will quietly vanish (into GW's vault, no less).
GaroRobe wrote: ... he creates with GW will be more or less entirely his vision...
I'm not so sure of that. GW doesn't really let people run wild with their stuff.
Yeah but its not like the creator actually appears to want to go wild with it. He's not trying to make the MLP Space Marines adventure TV series
Look at all the fantastic stuff that the Creative Arts team have done with Old World - sure they have to check with GW, but in the end they've created some outstanding stuff and even gone off the page some in doing things like the Vampire Pirates army that was just a white dwarf issue and one model (I've dim recollections that the skeleton walking thing got made by FW at some stage?)
True, but I don’t think I’d have any takers if I bet that all future work will be Primaris marines; GW aren’t going to want to promote classic marines outside of 30k.
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People say they should employ the guy behind Astartes.
GW employ the guy behind Astartes.
Apparently that’s now cheating, and selling out, and bad, and going to ruin it because The Internets Said So Clearly It Will Suffer Because Of Course It Will It Stands To Reason And Everyone Knows That.
Never change, Dakka. Never change.
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I wonder what's gonna happen to Kromlech's Retributor torsos and shoulderpads? they had a partnership with the creator to use his icons on their bits but if he was getting a cut from Kromlech and then gave his IP to GW then that could muddy the situation a bit. Although i really doubt Kromlech would be stupid enough to even dream about fighting GW over it.
People say they should employ the guy behind Astartes.
GW employ the guy behind Astartes.
Apparently that’s now cheating, and selling out, and bad, and going to ruin it because The Internets Said So Clearly It Will Suffer Because Of Course It Will It Stands To Reason And Everyone Knows That.
Never change, Dakka. Never change.
Hmm perhaps what GW needs to do is hire the Astartes guy from a different dimension that's out of sync with us time wise. So that he's hired both before, during and after he worked on Astartes Thus allowing him to produce it formally in-house and out of house whilst having all of and non of GW's influence at the same time!
Of course then someone will complain that its not healthy for the economy to be employing people across dimensional boarders.....
I read your comments and to summarise it seems the only real complaint (aside for changes to the music - didnt check it) is that the Astartes was taken from youtube. I agree though. It should stay where it was.
I like the idea there might be some bigger, longer production out of this marriage. Hopefully the artist will have good enough artistic freedom.
But we couldn’t wrap things up without a reference to that title. The project is called The Exodite, after all, so what about the titular Aeldari? For now, you’ll just have to wait and see, but suffice to say that The Exodite will offer your most vivid look yet at an especially enigmatic branch of the Aeldari family tree.
Freaking heck it would be the first official Exodite anything from GW since what 20-30 years ago? Besides the odd mention in codex and articles we've not had art or model in decades for them.
Mr Gutsy wrote: I wonder what's gonna happen to Kromlech's Retributor torsos and shoulderpads? they had a partnership with the creator to use his icons on their bits but if he was getting a cut from Kromlech and then gave his IP to GW then that could muddy the situation a bit. Although i really doubt Kromlech would be stupid enough to even dream about fighting GW over it.
Going to guess that these will disappear fairly quickly from Kromlech's site now that Astartes is an official GW licensed product.
Overread wrote: Freaking heck it would be the first official Exodite anything from GW since what 20-30 years ago? Besides the odd mention in codex and articles we've not had art or model in decades for them.
I'm guessing we get the Tau version of Predator, with the Exodite systematically murdering the apparent MC's squad.
Mr Gutsy wrote: I wonder what's gonna happen to Kromlech's Retributor torsos and shoulderpads? they had a partnership with the creator to use his icons on their bits but if he was getting a cut from Kromlech and then gave his IP to GW then that could muddy the situation a bit. Although i really doubt Kromlech would be stupid enough to even dream about fighting GW over it.
Going to guess that these will disappear fairly quickly from Kromlech's site now that Astartes is an official GW licensed product.
I don't see why they would, though? They had the approval of the creator at the time.
So what are the chances the Exodite is a teaser for another sub faction of Eldar to be released? Would be a cool and unique way to introduce a "new" faction to the game.
Overread wrote: Freaking heck it would be the first official Exodite anything from GW since what 20-30 years ago? Besides the odd mention in codex and articles we've not had art or model in decades for them.
lol...watch GW release a whole new army for Exodites Sigmar style and totally ignore Craftworlds.
Overread wrote: Freaking heck it would be the first official Exodite anything from GW since what 20-30 years ago? Besides the odd mention in codex and articles we've not had art or model in decades for them.
lol...watch GW release a whole new army for Exodites Sigmar style and totally ignore Craftworlds.
That would be a bittersweet release if ever there was one. On the one hand loads of people (myself included) super excited for Exodite models; on the other craftworld fans (also in that camp) dashed against the rocks for any hope of a range update for even more years.
Overread wrote: Freaking heck it would be the first official Exodite anything from GW since what 20-30 years ago? Besides the odd mention in codex and articles we've not had art or model in decades for them.
So, who wants to get together and work on an animation based on Squats? Maybe GW will hire us and then turn our designs into an army.
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Overread wrote: Freaking heck it would be the first official Exodite anything from GW since what 20-30 years ago? Besides the odd mention in codex and articles we've not had art or model in decades for them.
So, who wants to get together and work on an animation based on Squats? Maybe GW will hire us and then turn our designs into an army.
Cant we just compress the images to make the marines shorter and call them Squatmarines?
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People say they should employ the guy behind Astartes.
GW employ the guy behind Astartes.
Apparently that’s now cheating, and selling out, and bad, and going to ruin it because The Internets Said So Clearly It Will Suffer Because Of Course It Will It Stands To Reason And Everyone Knows That.
Never change, Dakka. Never change.
Hmm perhaps what GW needs to do is hire the Astartes guy from a different dimension that's out of sync with us time wise. So that he's hired both before, during and after he worked on Astartes Thus allowing him to produce it formally in-house and out of house whilst having all of and non of GW's influence at the same time!
Of course then someone will complain that its not healthy for the economy to be employing people across dimensional boarders.....
Clearly the best answer is The Creator of Astartes buying GW
Overread wrote: Freaking heck it would be the first official Exodite anything from GW since what 20-30 years ago? Besides the odd mention in codex and articles we've not had art or model in decades for them.
So, who wants to get together and work on an animation based on Squats? Maybe GW will hire us and then turn our designs into an army.
Cant we just compress the images to make the marines shorter and call them Squatmarines?
That would just be Steampunk Dwarves from AoS
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Mr Gutsy wrote: I wonder what's gonna happen to Kromlech's Retributor torsos and shoulderpads? they had a partnership with the creator to use his icons on their bits but if he was getting a cut from Kromlech and then gave his IP to GW then that could muddy the situation a bit. Although i really doubt Kromlech would be stupid enough to even dream about fighting GW over it.
That could be GW playing some 4D chess...
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This is an interesting development, as to me it suggests they’re eyeing platforms outside of Warhammer Community.
As much as fans will hopefully love them, I think this big move by GW is clearly to outreach like they have with video games. The only difference is that GW is doing this and funding it directly rather than having a 3rd party take the licence on (though that might have happened too since we really don't know all that much about the back end of these projects or how they came to be). So it makes perfect sense that they want to get their films onto other platforms. For GW this isn't just about seeing their IP in media, its about getting the message out there that Warhammer is a cool setting and you want to be a part of it so come buy some models.
Streaming TV being a thing now, and a big thing, likely made this all the more possible for GW because now there are many streaming services far easier and more willing ot have smaller names like GW come on board. I can see them appearing on Amazon Prime and the like quite easily; whilst in the past they'd have had to have either contended with Sky (limits your market to just sky customers); or the mammoth that was the main 4/5 in the UK who likely would have cost a fortune to get your TV show into, esp as a name approaching from the outside.