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 Galas wrote:
I'll be honest. I don't like those banshees. Waiting 20 years for that? Comparing them with ... literally all other 3rd party alternatives specially Artel W is an insult.

The fact that they are 5, monopose, extremely expensive with nearly 0 customization is just salt.

I know eldar don't want evolution of their concepts but thats isn't even modernization or refination.

It's hard to disagree with this, but at the same time, I think it kind of undersells the state of things. Finecast *sucks*, that's the long and short of that topic. GW also already charges Eldar players $40+ for each of those finecast kits. I think if everything still cost $30 it would be a harder sell to move to a very similar looking plastic kit that costs about double, but we've already eaten a lot of the price inflation.

Plus, I completely believe that GW will pull the plug on all remaining finecast kits at some point. If any Aspect Warriors get lost to that, it'll be a damn shame. And that's not even mentioning the Phoenix Lords... I've kind of accepted that we will lose some of them to the sands of time.

What a way to treat a foundational army with some of the most original and interesting fluff GW's ever come out with.

The bastarding Banshees cost as much as 5 Terminators. And like, the good Terminators, with options, like the Tartaros or Scarab Occult.

 Gene St. Ealer wrote:

Plus, I completely believe that GW will pull the plug on all remaining finecast kits at some point. If any Aspect Warriors get lost to that, it'll be a damn shame. And that's not even mentioning the Phoenix Lords... I've kind of accepted that we will lose some of them to the sands of time.

What a way to treat a foundational army with some of the most original and interesting fluff GW's ever come out with.

Yeah I'm concerned that when GW finally dumps Finecast they'll [Legends] quite a few iconic Eldar models. I doubt they can copyright a generic names like "Fire Dragon" so I wouldn't be surprised if they invent a new name or just dump it and invent new Aspect Warriors with more copyrightable names.

I like that the Orks are getting another Psyker option, although it could have just been another discipline. The Wurrboy model looks very Mek like.

I think the Banshees look great, besides the clown feet and monopose

Edit: Actually the old metals (all versions) have better proportions overall, the plastic Banshees have a similar chunkiness to new Lelith

 Galas wrote:
I'll be honest. I don't like those banshees. Waiting 20 years for that? Comparing them with ... literally all other 3rd party alternatives specially Artel W is an insult.

The fact that they are 5, monopose, extremely expensive with nearly 0 customization is just salt.

I know eldar don't want evolution of their concepts but thats isn't even modernization or refination.

I do not like them, either. If that is what plastic Aspects will look like, no thank you.

I really like the Banshee kit aesthetically. I just dislike the price.

Everything about the Blood of the Phoenix box set was insulting as far as price and rules went. Until their revamp in 9th ed, Drazhar and the Incubi were pretty much meh choices, as were (and continue to be) the Banshees and Jain Zar. GW really need to get their act together and figure out what they want to do with Eldar narratively now that they screwed the pooch with Ynnari.

They missed such a trick by not doing the Aspects as dual kits:

Banshee/Hawks (both the lightest)
Dragons/Scorps (both the middle-est)
Spiders/Reapers (both the heaviest)

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They missed such a trick by not doing the Aspects as dual kits:

Banshee/Hawks (both the lightest)
Dragons/Scorps (both the middle-est)
Spiders/Reapers (both the heaviest)

Swooping Hawks/Banshees really would only need a head and arm swap to function as the other, it is very do-able.

I would have said dragon/reaper (both the staticest) and spider/scorpion (both the arachnidest) myself but yeah dual kits would have been amazing.
Also does anyone else wish the warp spiders played up more of their lore counterparts’ role as the immune system of the craft world’s soul matrix by having anti-psyker/daemon traits?

Having Aspect Warrior's play up more of their ancestral role is always a plus, even if it's esoteric stuff like cleaning the daemon viruses out of the Eldar arpanet.

Personally I'd like a return to the Halcyon days where all my Fire Dragon's problems could be solved with melta.

I don't hate the new Banshees, but I'm glad I have my old 2nd edition ones (I converted the Exarch with dual swords).

Back on topic, I wish GW would go back to books like Freebooters and give Da Boyz a proper Weirdboy design.

 KidCthulhu wrote:
I don't hate the new Banshees, but I'm glad I have my old 2nd edition ones (I converted the Exarch with dual swords).

Back on topic, I wish GW would go back to books like Freebooters and give Da Boyz a proper Weirdboy design.

The madcap jester look?

i'd quite like a modern version of the RT set where the two Minderz are holding the Weirdboy off the ground and pointing his head at a target, like he's a heavy weapon...

 Dysartes wrote:
i'd quite like a modern version of the RT set where the two Minderz are holding the Weirdboy off the ground and pointing his head at a target, like he's a heavy weapon...

I had no idea what you were talking about and googled "Minderz are holding the Weirdboy". I think you are right, lots of potiential in that mini concept.

Personally I would love to have the minderz trying hold the weirdboy down with chained manacles as he floats into the air filled with the power of the waaaagh and going full nova-noggin.


Not sure if it would be too much of a riff on a daemonhost though?

Yeah, a model like that reflecting the fluff that Weirdboys really don't want to be there because they are acutely aware of the odds of their heads exploding would be cool.

You never know.

 Vain wrote:
Personally I would love to have the minderz trying hold the weirdboy down with chained manacles as he floats into the air filled with the power of the waaaagh and going full nova-noggin.

Spoiler:

...I'm getting "Weirdboy as exploding parade float" from that concept

 Dysartes wrote:

 Vain wrote:
Personally I would love to have the minderz trying hold the weirdboy down with chained manacles as he floats into the air filled with the power of the waaaagh and going full nova-noggin.

Spoiler:

...I'm getting "Weirdboy as exploding parade float" from that concept

Yes, and that is good

 KidCthulhu wrote:
I wish GW would go back to books like Freebooters

Ork-Genestealer hybrids and Khorne's Stormboys!

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 KidCthulhu wrote:
I wish GW would go back to books like Freebooters

Ork-Genestealer hybrids and Khorne's Stormboys!

And Proper Madboyz.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

And Proper Madboyz.

Yeah, Madboyz would be a great addition. Some Squig herd 40k equivalent would be sweet too.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

And Proper Madboyz.

Yeah, Madboyz would be a great addition. Some Squig herd 40k equivalent would be sweet too.

Just...put rules for squigs in the game.

have people buy the squig herd box and use it?

 the_scotsman wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

And Proper Madboyz.

Yeah, Madboyz would be a great addition. Some Squig herd 40k equivalent would be sweet too.

Just...put rules for squigs in the game.

have people buy the squig herd box and use it?

No model = no rules, and the Squid Herd box is explictly for AoS-only.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 the_scotsman wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

And Proper Madboyz.

Yeah, Madboyz would be a great addition. Some Squig herd 40k equivalent would be sweet too.

Just...put rules for squigs in the game.

have people buy the squig herd box and use it?

No model = no rules, and the Squid Herd box is explictly for AoS-only.

And currently the only Tzaangor box produced by GW is for Age of Sigmar, yet they're still in Codex Thousand Sons.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 the_scotsman wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

And Proper Madboyz.

Yeah, Madboyz would be a great addition. Some Squig herd 40k equivalent would be sweet too.

Just...put rules for squigs in the game.

have people buy the squig herd box and use it?

No model = no rules, and the Squid Herd box is explictly for AoS-only.

And currently the only Tzaangor box produced by GW is for Age of Sigmar, yet they're still in Codex Thousand Sons.

Yeah but Squig herd has a Night Goblin herders so it is not the same

 the_scotsman wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

And Proper Madboyz.

Yeah, Madboyz would be a great addition. Some Squig herd 40k equivalent would be sweet too.

Just...put rules for squigs in the game.

have people buy the squig herd box and use it?

I've been wondering for a very long time why squigs aren't available as a unit choice in a 40k ork army. Treat them like slightly more aggressive but not-as-tough slugga boyz, ie. fully focused on melee only(obviously, because no ranged weapons), maybe with a stronger attack(2 damage??) but also less tough because they're squishier(no armor save??). Maybe make them a touch faster movement wise to account for that as well. I can absolutely see Snakebites for example pushing massive herds of gnashing squigs toward enemy gunlines.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 the_scotsman wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

And Proper Madboyz.

Yeah, Madboyz would be a great addition. Some Squig herd 40k equivalent would be sweet too.

Just...put rules for squigs in the game.

have people buy the squig herd box and use it?

No model = no rules, and the Squid Herd box is explictly for AoS-only.

And currently the only Tzaangor box produced by GW is for Age of Sigmar, yet they're still in Codex Thousand Sons.

GW also makes conversion kits to turn the AoS Tzaangors into 40k Tzaangors. The fact said kit also gives them measurably worse weapons non-withstanding. Also, Tzaangors themselves exist both in AoS and 40k - Night Goblins not so much.

Shadow Walker wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 the_scotsman wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

And Proper Madboyz.

Yeah, Madboyz would be a great addition. Some Squig herd 40k equivalent would be sweet too.

Just...put rules for squigs in the game.

have people buy the squig herd box and use it?

No model = no rules, and the Squid Herd box is explictly for AoS-only.

And currently the only Tzaangor box produced by GW is for Age of Sigmar, yet they're still in Codex Thousand Sons.

Yeah but Squig herd has a Night Goblin herders so it is not the same

You can't use them as grots?????

On the Weirdboy thing, my favourite Rogue Trader era fluff is probably Possessed Warpheadz.

It’s exactly as it sounds, a possessed Orky Psyker.

Except….the Orky personality is just too belligerent, and the Daemon basically gets nowhere, and becomes the prisoner. I need to read it again (such a hard, bitter life I know), but I’m pretty sure it ends up the one caged, whilst the Ork can tap into its power for extra oomph.

I really really want to see a new plastic version of the old RT weirdboy being held like a cannon by two minderz.