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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I doubt they'd put two identical packs of Boyz into a Combat Patrol. Seems too bland.

They put three identical packs of Poxwalkers into a Combat Patrol.

Will they put in limited launch set and in month of 2 same models in combat patrol?

£125 for the Beast Snaggas box, as expected.

 Nerbil wrote:


£125 for the Beast Snaggas box, as expected.

So 160€ or $200 - same price as the AoS Dominion box essentially.

Apparently at least some independent stores are only getting one copy per store, it will be that limited.

So, at what time do pre-orders usually become available? Asking for a friend...

sounds like As/NZ have been hit with a shipping issue and rather than delay the world wide release GW is air freighting a few boxes in to do their one per store (since it only seems them who have been warned)…. after all with limited stock how could they magic up a whole new allocation without messing with supply elsewhere

hopefully sea freight stuff will show up soon with more boxes (after all the prices charged down below as crazy, and must make GW more profit by far than a box sold in Europe or the North America

oke eveyone does have a differt taste, and i like the "normal" look of the new orks but those beastsnaggas and there new vehicle i dont like, and i play orks
its more like lets make some AOS models and give them some guns and be done with it. the new commandos are great.

AUD$290 for 25 Orks, a book that will be partially invalidated in 6 months (perhaps even less if they do another points revision), and cards that aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

Sweet deal!

The book is just the 9th ed codex, I'd expect it to have points and rules for all the unreleased models much like the Sisters book did, but of course if it doesn't that's a different scenario.

Same as all of these boxes, it's a great deal if you want all of those things and a bad deal if you don't.

Yes, because points "invalidate" your codex :rolleyes:

That word doesn't mean what you think it does. The only time I ever look up points in a book is when I play a game before BS has updated.

Imagine paying for rules in 2021

my normal online retailer has posted 50-03 WH40K: BEAST SNAGGA ORKS ARMY SET (ENG) £125.00

no warning about stock levels (other than the normal anyway) so the one per store issue really does seem to be AUS/NZ only

 Jidmah wrote:
So, at what time do pre-orders usually become available? Asking for a friend...

Pre-orders nominally go up at 10am BST / 11am CEST, though apparently it's not a bad idea to start F5ing a few minutes earlier since things don't always go up exactly on the hour.

I wonder if they'll do the queue for this as well, even though it's not as "big" as Dominon

 Jidmah wrote:
That word doesn't mean what you think it does. The only time I ever look up points in a book is when I play a game before BS has updated.

The point, Jid, which I thought would have been obvious by now, is that 40K printed material isn't worth a damn. They cycle through it too quickly, and erratas/new CA books can make them less and less useful. Add to that that buying limited edition ones is even more foolish, as now you're paying a premium for a limited use product.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
That word doesn't mean what you think it does. The only time I ever look up points in a book is when I play a game before BS has updated.

The point, Jid, which I thought would have been obvious by now, is that 40K printed material isn't worth a damn. They cycle through it too quickly, and erratas/new CA books can make them less and less useful. Add to that that buying limited edition ones is even more foolish, as now you're paying a premium for a limited use product.

*Flashbacks to buying the Dwarf Limited Edition Rulebook, then the Warhammer World went kaboom*

I haven't bothered to check, but I think the LE Sister Codex that came in the battlebox was also pretty useless. Not sure if they had every model, since the full range wasn't revealed at that time.

My usual online store (UK) has said they are not getting enough copies to cover those who have expressed an interest and won’t have any left over for the online store.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
That word doesn't mean what you think it does. The only time I ever look up points in a book is when I play a game before BS has updated.

The point, Jid, which I thought would have been obvious by now, is that 40K printed material isn't worth a damn. They cycle through it too quickly, and erratas/new CA books can make them less and less useful. Add to that that buying limited edition ones is even more foolish, as now you're paying a premium for a limited use product.

But what if they're cool tho?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
That word doesn't mean what you think it does. The only time I ever look up points in a book is when I play a game before BS has updated.

The point, Jid, which I thought would have been obvious by now, is that 40K printed material isn't worth a damn. They cycle through it too quickly, and erratas/new CA books can make them less and less useful. Add to that that buying limited edition ones is even more foolish, as now you're paying a premium for a limited use product.

I understand your point and disagree with it. Neither codices nor the PA books have become invalid by any measure and have been a valuable asset when gaming all through their lifespan. Printed points might as well not exist at all, and what errata and FAQs do in the overwhelming majority of cases is to clarify or fix rules that are already in the book. Which means that more often than not, the FAQ or errata doesn't change how you play anyways.
The only thing that got truly invalidated were the datacards, because having cards for half your stratagems is about as valuable as having none at all.

And this isn't a limited edition codex where you can just buy the regular one. It's buy this limited edition codex, or you don't get a codex, which is a completely different level of bad.

I also happen to like all models in the box except for the crazy hair runtherd, so might as well get them now before GW charges an extra 30 euros for the same box without a codex inside.

I'm just gonna wait til the Squig Riders come out. I've been waiting for years for that concept to see the light of day, and although the execution could be better I'm happy enough with it to add it to my army to honour my old Boar Boyz.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
That word doesn't mean what you think it does. The only time I ever look up points in a book is when I play a game before BS has updated.

The point, Jid, which I thought would have been obvious by now, is that 40K printed material isn't worth a damn. They cycle through it too quickly, and erratas/new CA books can make them less and less useful. Add to that that buying limited edition ones is even more foolish, as now you're paying a premium for a limited use product.

*Flashbacks to buying the Dwarf Limited Edition Rulebook, then the Warhammer World went kaboom*

I haven't bothered to check, but I think the LE Sister Codex that came in the battlebox was also pretty useless. Not sure if they had every model, since the full range wasn't revealed at that time.

I mean...they've released a new book since then so... It did have all the models scheduled for release at that time and I love it on my bookshelf.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
That word doesn't mean what you think it does. The only time I ever look up points in a book is when I play a game before BS has updated.

The point, Jid, which I thought would have been obvious by now, is that 40K printed material isn't worth a damn. They cycle through it too quickly, and erratas/new CA books can make them less and less useful. Add to that that buying limited edition ones is even more foolish, as now you're paying a premium for a limited use product.

*Flashbacks to buying the Dwarf Limited Edition Rulebook, then the Warhammer World went kaboom*

I haven't bothered to check, but I think the LE Sister Codex that came in the battlebox was also pretty useless. Not sure if they had every model, since the full range wasn't revealed at that time.

The LE SoB codex was the same one as the release one just with a different cover. Used it quite extensively until the 9th edition codex came out.

I think the only weird LE codex/tome out of the early release box sets was the Lumineth Realmlords as barely a year later they released a new tome for LRL that included the latter half of the army. That was all within AoS 2.0 btw whereas the SoB codexes were 8th and 9th edition.

I believe Codexes are worth it the first time you buy one for your army. To get a general feel of it, the fluff, etc... but buying the same codex each 2-3 years? Nah man.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
That word doesn't mean what you think it does. The only time I ever look up points in a book is when I play a game before BS has updated.

The point, Jid, which I thought would have been obvious by now, is that 40K printed material isn't worth a damn. They cycle through it too quickly, and erratas/new CA books can make them less and less useful. Add to that that buying limited edition ones is even more foolish, as now you're paying a premium for a limited use product.

Fyi the box　contents will cost less than separately. There's your premium

But hey never get fact get in way of lying rant

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
That word doesn't mean what you think it does. The only time I ever look up points in a book is when I play a game before BS has updated.

The point, Jid, which I thought would have been obvious by now, is that 40K printed material isn't worth a damn. They cycle through it too quickly, and erratas/new CA books can make them less and less useful. Add to that that buying limited edition ones is even more foolish, as now you're paying a premium for a limited use product.

I disagree that the books are useless during their edition run as they are good reference materials for the included rules(unless you are one of those people who rely on Battlescribe to be entirely correct). I do however agree that the limited edition codexes are a bit of a waste of money as they are exceedingly costly compared to the time you get to use them. If you are a mega fan of your faction then they are a nice collection piece, but otherwise entirely superfluous.

However, I did some math on the Ork box contents and the contents exceed the cost of the box.

20 orks - my guess is that the Ork boyz box will go to 30 pounds so this part of the box will be 60 pounds. GW is on a price hike as of late so I wouldn't be surprised if it went higher(maybe 32.5 pounds). The biggest surprise was if they were less than 30.
Zodgrodd - 25 pounds my guess. We are now at 85 pounds
Squighog boyz - 35 pounds or so. Could be 30 pounds. so we are now at 115 pounds
Nob on Smasha Squig - I am guessing 30 pounds so we are at 145
Codex - 30 pounds(Let us aim for the standard codex price so we won't artificially raise the box contents). 175 pounds
Datacards - 15 pounds, same rule as with the codex. 190 pounds

So all in all for those who want a codex and datacards early as well as the models it is a decent discount. So a box designed for Orks boyz, galz, and enbyz.

 Galas wrote:
I believe Codexes are worth it the first time you buy one for your army. To get a general feel of it, the fluff, etc... but buying the same codex each 2-3 years? Nah man.

9th edition codices aren't exactly full of fluff though...

Value wise it feels about the same as the Sisters box to me.

The Sisters box has no options for any models and a couple of MSU units for things that don't line up well with buying a box of them. This box looks like it will be the full kits of the model contained, and works much better as a start for an army I think.
We'll see. I'll be trying to pick one up myself as I'd be at least buying the codex, cards and some squig riders, so the rest is a cheap addition.

I get that it's an expensive hobby and GW does themselves no favours in that regard, but it's a little tiresome reading that in every release thread.

I think the big difference to sisters is that I can just slot the boyz, squigriders and nob on squig in an existing and functional army without bending over backwards. I just plan to run those models alongside my buggies and walkers.

tneva82 wrote:
Fyi the box　contents will cost less than separately. There's your premium

Cool. I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about GW 40k books being not worth the cost.

tneva82 wrote:
But hey never get fact get in way of lying rant

Don't accuse me of lying when you don't even understand my post. Jesus...

 Jidmah wrote:
Neither codices nor the PA books have become invalid by any measure and have been a valuable asset when gaming all through their lifespan.

The PA and Vigilus books become invalid for Chaos players next Saturday. I think the Dark Eldar lost the use of their PA stuff when their new book came out (and it's DLC). Machine War and AdMech probably, right? These aren't old books.

Ah man, I’d be keen for this box, but if it’s true that Aus is getting smacked with 1 per store I’m very likely not going to get one :(