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Just watched the trailer on Warhammer community and as a big space ship cruises the text on the screen states

“In the not-so far future”

The 41st millennium?????? This is exactly the kind of problem I’m going to have with this content. It’s high concept space opera, the fact that it’s mind blowingly far into the future is part of the scene setting.

I feel like the content is going to be made by people that don’t understand the universe like the fan base do and there will be a lot of new ideas which GW aren’t QAing.

And the main question, is the content in these animations going to be canon????

mrFickle wrote:
Just watched the trailer on Warhammer community and as a big space ship cruises the text on the screen states

“In the not-so far future”

The 41st millennium?????? This is exactly the kind of problem I’m going to have with this content. It’s high concept space opera, the fact that it’s mind blowingly far into the future is part of the scene setting.

I feel like the content is going to be made by people that don’t understand the universe like the fan base do and there will be a lot of new ideas which GW aren’t QAing.

And the main question, is the content in these animations going to be canon????

I think you’ve misunderstood that. They mean that Warhammer + is coming in “the not-so far future.”

As someone who is already subscribed to Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Disney+ I can't say I am excited about adding another service to the roster. At least with the mentioned 3 I have a wide library of titles whereas Warhammer+ is very limited.

I basically imagine I'd wait for a show or three to finish before subscribing to binge watch and then cancel the subscription immediately until the next time I think WH+ is binge worthy.

I don't understand why anyone would sub three VOD services simultaneously. For me its always one month of this, one month of that. You can binge watch an awful lot in 30 days, if I had em all on all the time, most of my sub time would be a wasted..

If someone's too lazy to cancel/resub VODs every now and then, they deserve to be milked. First World probs and all that

 General Kroll wrote:

mrFickle wrote:
Just watched the trailer on Warhammer community and as a big space ship cruises the text on the screen states

“In the not-so far future”

The 41st millennium?????? This is exactly the kind of problem I’m going to have with this content. It’s high concept space opera, the fact that it’s mind blowingly far into the future is part of the scene setting.

I feel like the content is going to be made by people that don’t understand the universe like the fan base do and there will be a lot of new ideas which GW aren’t QAing.

And the main question, is the content in these animations going to be canon????

I think you’ve misunderstood that. They mean that Warhammer + is coming in “the not-so far future.”

Oh..... statement retracted

Not at all. I can hear it, this open ploy for monthly money coming on the air tonight, oh lord, I've been waiting for this greedy play for a sub fee from king greed GW for all of my life, oh lord.

 tauist wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would sub three VOD services simultaneously. For me its always one month of this, one month of that. You can binge watch an awful lot in 30 days, if I had em all on all the time, most of my sub time would be a wasted..

If someone's too lazy to cancel/resub VODs every now and then, they deserve to be milked. First World probs and all that

Sounds like you live alone.

 tauist wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would sub three VOD services simultaneously. For me its always one month of this, one month of that. You can binge watch an awful lot in 30 days, if I had em all on all the time, most of my sub time would be a wasted..

If someone's too lazy to cancel/resub VODs every now and then, they deserve to be milked. First World probs and all that

Kids watch a mix of Disney and Netflix. We watch Netflix and a little bit of Disney. It's very simple really.

For their price, it’s cheaper than buying DVDs or BluRay, and each offers different things.

Sure I can see merit in chopping and changing frequently, especially for those one a tighter budget than this particular idiot. But for me, it’s just too much faffing.

I have however recently ditched Netflix, as I rarely ever watched it.

 tauist wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would sub three VOD services simultaneously. For me its always one month of this, one month of that. You can binge watch an awful lot in 30 days, if I had em all on all the time, most of my sub time would be a wasted..

If someone's too lazy to cancel/resub VODs every now and then, they deserve to be milked. First World probs and all that

I have Sky, Netflix and Amazon - the latter for my parents as well but i like to be able to watch whatever i want when i want and its a negliable amount of money (to me) for the conveience of doing so.

If Warhammer has stuff I want - I'll prob get it - depending on the price....and keep it on or not depending on the content.

My wife and I have amazon, netflix, and our current internet sub gives us Disney+ bundled with Hulu and HBONow or whatever it's called.

The internet with streaming has replaced cable! Welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss...

I have seen maybe two previews that intrigued me. It's not enough to get me excited for this. Were it a NORMAL streaming service, I could see getting it for a month and then cancelling (like what a lot of people do for Disney+ in order to watch the Mandalorian), but this is a GW service.

Take the example of the APP - GW essentially said "You know how most of you won't pay more than a dollar or two at most for a feature complete, properly functioning app? Well, we're changing the game! Prepare for the paradigm shift! We're providing you with an incomplete, partially functioning piece of software for $5.00 a month! BOOM!"

At the time, I was only paying slightly more for Amazon Prime. lol Of course that was an utter disaster, but they're slow learners, so I'm fully prepared for this streaming nonsense to cost a laughable amount of money and not work well for at least the first year. I'm setting the over-under at $50 a month at release. Eventually going down to $25 before they cave on the whole thing all together.

Would LOVE to be wrong here, but history says I'm not. Guess we'll see.

I suspect we'll see things like batreps, painting guides, lore videos and all sorts YouTube type of content start to crop up on there.
People pay out an awful lot of money via patreon, subscriptions etc and I'm sure gw are trying to get a big slice of that action. Guest columns on the community website from YouTube channels suggests relationships are being formed in readiness.

 kingheff wrote:
I suspect we'll see things like batreps, painting guides, lore videos and all sorts YouTube type of content start to crop up on there.
People pay out an awful lot of money via patreon, subscriptions etc and I'm sure gw are trying to get a big slice of that action. Guest columns on the community website from YouTube channels suggests relationships are being formed in readiness.

I could actually imagine GW try to pull some sort of MWG vault membership on this.

 kingheff wrote:
I suspect we'll see things like batreps....

God can you imagine GWs in-house batreps? The current partners are sycophantic enough, I can only imagine the levels of cringe GW would produce.

I’ll do the same thing I do for most subscription services. Sub when they have something interesting, binge watch it, unsub when it’s done. As long as it isn’t ridiculously overpriced I’ll check it out.

Nope. Just not interested.

I don't know, because we don't even have full knowledge of what it is, let alone the price.

I read these type of threads, and wonder what can GW do too make the super nerds happy? Nothing apparently,,like so what it’s a paid service. Tons of people are amped up for this in my neck of the woods. Like they have hired some of the best you tubers that have been making 40K fan fiction, witch people on here were in love with. But GW does the best thing and hires them, and still you super nerds keep complaining. I hope this service is successful so I can get top quality 40K and AOS animation. For those that won’t, we get it you can feel good about it,, but stop complaining and move on.

Glad these animators are getting paid...Then again - I am not going to Sub to something I can get free somewhere else.

GW seems to really want it's staff on-site and working from Nottingham, even in an era of Covid. Commissioned artists and authors might be an exception since they can work entirely independently but for things like animation they might want staff on hand.

I'd be surprised if the guys (and gals?) given the chance to work with GW don't do one job, then get told they'll (maybe) be in touch in the future, but promptly don't hear squat... too bad they already signed on the dotted line to say they can't talk about their GW-aligned stuff anymore and Games Workshop got the added PR of not just C&Ding their videos but giving them a job for thirty seconds.

Whatever happened to the Eagle Ordinary and Vhane Glorious stuff anyway?

dogboy311 wrote:
I read these type of threads, and wonder what can GW do too make the super nerds happy? Nothing apparently,,like so what it’s a paid service. Tons of people are amped up for this in my neck of the woods. Like they have hired some of the best you tubers that have been making 40K fan fiction, witch people on here were in love with. But GW does the best thing and hires them, and still you super nerds keep complaining. I hope this service is successful so I can get top quality 40K and AOS animation. For those that won’t, we get it you can feel good about it,, but stop complaining and move on.

That's hugely disingenuous IMO. The complaints here seem to be mostly about the amount of content, the cost and the possibility of the service being technically poor, with some people commenting on the quality of the animation that's been shown so far. I think all those are valid complaints. If GW were to address those it would go some way to at least giving people a fuller picture of the service and stop a lot of the negative speculation. Granted, it might then turn into negativity over the facts if the price turns out to be too high. The recent launch of the 40k app has caused concern that GW doesn't seem to know how to manage a complex digital project with outside partners. They've announced 11 shows so far and the episode length mentioned seems very short so concerns about the amount of content, both in terms of the number of shows and the total length of the entire offering, also seem valid if the service is going to be a monthly subscription. You say "stop complaining and move on" but it seems like the overwhelming response to this service here is negative and trying to shut down discussion of that is weird given the purpose of the board.

The only place I've seen any large number of vaguely positive responses to this is on the GW FB page. Even there a lot of people are similarly negative and the stock response of "wait until the full announcement on the 23rd of June" is as infuriating as it is unhelpful. If GW had actually just waited until then to announce the whole thing they could probably have headed off a month of complaints and speculation. But they didn't. It was their choice to make the announcement they did with the information they provided. It seems a little churlish to blame their target audience for reacting based on the information the company themselves provided.

The creator of Eagle Ordinary got to be head of department didn't they? But they moved on after a year or two.

As for GW batreps, that would be interesting.
I believe they'd done games like that in the past, but backed off because they consistently got rules wrong and obviously thought that wasn't a good look for the writers of the games!

 kirotheavenger wrote:
The creator of Eagle Ordinary got to be head of department didn't they? But they moved on after a year or two.

As for GW batreps, that would be interesting.
I believe they'd done games like that in the past, but backed off because they consistently got rules wrong and obviously thought that wasn't a good look for the writers of the games!

The big problem with GW batreps has always been the armies. The models they have access to are the ones painted for the Codices so they never have what most people would consider a decent, coherent army. It's always a mish-mash of squads and models with no synergy. Things like Devastators with 4 different heavy weapons, or Tau Battlesuits with one of everything just make for bad games IMO. Back when I was still subscribed to WD I remember one of the best battle reports they ever did was a WHFB report between Dark Elves and High Elves by two tournament players. The armies felt more coherent, the level of play was much higher and the discussion of the game was all the better for it. The other good batreps I remember were all the weird ones like Ork's Drift, the massive tank battle and so on. The ones that were just regular games of 40k, WH etc were actually not that great.

The biggest problem GW would have if they tried to do batreps on Warhmmer+ is there are better channels out there dedicated to that providing the content for free. I can't see these channels joining GW's streaming service because it takes the control out of their hands. The same goes for painting tutorials. Sure, GW have a pretty solid set-up and format for their painting tutorials but so does Duncan Rhodes and his YT channel is free.

dogboy311 wrote:
I read these type of threads, and wonder what can GW do too make the super nerds happy? Nothing apparently,,like so what it’s a paid service. Tons of people are amped up for this in my neck of the woods. Like they have hired some of the best you tubers that have been making 40K fan fiction, witch people on here were in love with. But GW does the best thing and hires them, and still you super nerds keep complaining. I hope this service is successful so I can get top quality 40K and AOS animation. For those that won’t, we get it you can feel good about it,, but stop complaining and move on.

What can they do to make me happy ? Make an actual quality rules based game, lower mini costs and stop offering this stupid crap I didn't either ask for or want. Just because I play the game with my friends doesn't mean I live GW. They don't need to offer me a sub service to make this super nerd happy they could do actual quality stuff to do that but they won't as this is more lucrative for them and less effort intensive.

For those happy with this, we get, you will gobble it up with a grin, we get it stop fanboying and move on. See, that can go both ways. Disliking it is just as valid a response as thinking its going to be the best thing since being born.

Do you know what, despite my reservations about the quality, it’s going to be about £10 a month to be in line with the top end of streaming services, it’s not that much so I will definitely sign up for at least the first month to see what it’s like.

Slipspace wrote:

The biggest problem GW would have if they tried to do batreps on Warhmmer+ is there are better channels out there dedicated to that providing the content for free. I can't see these channels joining GW's streaming service because it takes the control out of their hands. The same goes for painting tutorials. Sure, GW have a pretty solid set-up and format for their painting tutorials but so does Duncan Rhodes and his YT channel is free.

I totally agree.

That doesn't mean it'll stop them. Battlescribe is free, very effective, and very well regarded in the community.
Yet GW still tried to sell an app that cost £4 a month and only promised an army builder, which when it arrived was still full of bugs.
"Other people do it better and cheaper" has never been an obstacle to GW before.

I can definitely see GW trying to pull a lot of their content into WH+. They want every penny to go to themselves. People subscribe to their Twitch? If they bring that content in house they'll get 100% of that subscription fee rather than whatever % Twitch gives them.

I am very doubtful they will put BL audios into it, beyond maybe a handful to entice people. They can charge much higher prices per-book on BL site than 5-10 pounds a month for the lot of it.

They could go with some kind of a token system like Audible, getting a token every month of the subscription and spend it on an audiobook/book of the user's choice.

That would be a good start and a way to sweeten the deal.

Removed - Rule #1 please