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 Sotahullu wrote:

stratigo wrote:
So, it's a bit weird to me that the kruleboy release is mostly monsters. Like I get that its the current push, but, feels a bit much.

Which is why there is probaply more that hasn't been shown yet to round up infantry. Like grots!

Or not. Gw prefers atm monsters and practically forcing players to get those. Lots of monsters, token infantry is hardly unenxpected.


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In Grimdark Lives latest show they are backing up the rumour that there will be a BoC vs GSG box with a new Scuttleboss, Doombull, Bullgors and Jabberslythe. No new Gors or Beastlords.BoC battle tome possibly in October. With Maggotkin, Ogors and GSG to follow - not necessarily in that order (Grimdark Live reported the Kruleboyz rumours and got them correct)

 DaveC wrote:
In Grimdark Lives latest show they are backing up the rumour that there will be a BoC vs GSG box with a new Scuttleboss, Doombull, Bullgors and Jabberslythe. BoC battle tome possibly in October. With Maggotkin, Ogors and GSG to follow - not necessarily in that order (Grimdark Live reported the Kruleboyz rumours and got them correct)

That rumour sounds bs

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 DaveC wrote:

Spoiler:

In Grimdark Lives latest show they are backing up the rumour that there will be a BoC vs GSG box with a new Scuttleboss, Doombull, Bullgors and Jabberslythe. BoC battle tome possibly in October. With Maggotkin, Ogors and GSG to follow - not necessarily in that order (Grimdark Live reported the Kruleboyz rumours and got them correct)

That rumour sounds bs

Ordinarily I’d agree but Grimdark Live were the first to report the Kruleboyz stuff before the name was even known and they were spot on.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/4650/784170.page#11128015

WarCom also said the next tome will be something Chaos but phrased in a way that definitely didn't hint at any of the Big 4. BoC felt the most likely to me from the way they said it, without any outside info.

I hope this pans out. Apparently I'm one of the few who doesn't have a problem with the current minotaurs, but I won't say no to new ones either. Not the least because I prefer models that don't have poses designed for rank and file formation. Outside of rank and file games, anyway.

What's GSG?

At this point, i don't think we should doubt Grimdarklive. They obviously have a good contact inside GW.

Id like boc to have more love. Always was one of my favorite army. These gors are starting to show their age though

GSG = Gloomspite Gitz - (if an acronym is highlight in yellow you can click on it to see the full word)

Gloomspite Gitz.

I will go nuts if we are getting new 'bulls for Beasts.

Wouldn't surprise me if the new Bullgors were a new unit variant and existed alongside old ones, not replaced them.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
WarCom also said the next tome will be something Chaos but phrased in a way that definitely didn't hint at any of the Big 4. BoC felt the most likely to me from the way they said it, without any outside info.

I think there is a pretty decent chance that some of the rumor engine pics are from re-done marauder horsemen (darkoath cavalry?) so while story wise given the stuff WarCom has been dropping story wise BoC make the most sense, I think there is a decent chance the next chaos chaos release is redone marauders.

Would I put money onthat bet? No.

But I think there are some reasonably things to support the idea.

 DaveC wrote:
GSG = Gloomspite Gitz - (if an acronym is highlight in yellow you can click on it to see the full word)

Except on every tablet and phone I've had. Only works on PC for me.

Carlovonsexron wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
WarCom also said the next tome will be something Chaos but phrased in a way that definitely didn't hint at any of the Big 4. BoC felt the most likely to me from the way they said it, without any outside info.

I think there is a pretty decent chance that some of the rumor engine pics are from re-done marauder horsemen (darkoath cavalry?) so while story wise given the stuff WarCom has been dropping story wise BoC make the most sense, I think there is a decent chance the next chaos chaos release is redone marauders.

Would I put money onthat bet? No.

But I think there are some reasonably things to support the idea.

We can but hope. I'm waiting to see which drops first - new marauders (and marauder cav) or the "AoS box" of 2x Spire Tyrant warbands because I will be perfectly happy using those as generic marauders!

If 3rd edition is to be monsters for everyone then I'd love to see a monster for Nighthaunts. The Mourngul isn't quite my bag...

I had just dusted off my old minotaur force to try new AOS, I'll be over the moon if there is new BOC stuff and bullgors etc.

Does the focus on Beasts of Chaos with a new doombull, minotaurs, and jabberslythes in the next Total Warhammer DLC support or undermine the rumour of updated models for those? Or just a pure coincidence with no meaning whatsoever?

It makes me think it's all or nothing, personally.

But given that GW doesn't have a particularly good track record on capitalizing on physical models realted to the Total War Games (even "The Old World" is probably coming out too late to capitalize off the release of TW3) it actuall ymakes me more skeptical.

HOWEVER! If it turns out that it;s true. and that minis and the the DLC are the same/ similar design, and released in the next month or so, it makes me think the 'The Old World' might be coming alot sooner than I expected... and GW might actually be figuring out this whole 'multi-media' thing.

But I remain skeptical on that.

New Vanguard Hunter warscroll from the rebox (Posted on Reddit)

Continuing the trend of merging melee weapons into 1 stat

There was no point in them being anything else for the Vanguard Hunters. Both choices were trash. The whole unit is poorly designed to boot.

Hopefully the Vigilors are better designed.

Poor Hunters, still being terrible I see :c

Thank goodness they got rend! I've always felt all SCE attacks should have rend by default (with only exceptions like melee attacks with ranged units lacking it) and this gives me hope.


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Cronch wrote:
Poor Hunters, still being terrible I see :c

We don't know even more than usual, because the strength of hunters was never in the stat line.


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 DaveC wrote:
Continuing the trend of merging melee weapons into 1 stat

While normally I like options, a lot of the early SCE ones were really pointless. Like choosing between a 4+/3+ or 3+/4+. So happy to see this consolidation.

In my opinion, the "strength of hunters" was in board denial, not actually doing anything for realsies. I tried and tried and tried to make them work, but it just wasn't there.

They suffered from the same issue as Corsairs, but weren't dirt cheap like Corsairs were.

 DaveC wrote:
In Grimdark Lives latest show they are backing up the rumour that there will be a BoC vs GSG box with a new Scuttleboss, Doombull, Bullgors and Jabberslythe. No new Gors or Beastlords.BoC battle tome possibly in October. With Maggotkin, Ogors and GSG to follow - not necessarily in that order (Grimdark Live reported the Kruleboyz rumours and got them correct)

This would mean that of the first 6 books of 3rd Edition, only ONE is Order? Somehow I don't buy that.

I don't think we'll see anything beyond basic overhaul of wording for 3rd ed personally, they seem to have given up on the Vanguards as a concept.

Also, good to know they no longer include full warscrolls in the boxes, instead you just get the statline like in 40k. I love downgrades!

Check the releases for AOS2. There's only one Order book that didn't get an update...and that's Idoneth, a late AOS1 release.


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Cronch wrote:
I don't think we'll see anything beyond basic overhaul of wording for 3rd ed personally, they seem to have given up on the Vanguards as a concept.

As well they should. The minute they let Stormcast be horde-heavy was the minute they screwed up.

Also, they continually have dropped the ball over Gryph-Hounds. It was downright ridiculous they never put them into the Vanguard Chamber.

Also, good to know they no longer include full warscrolls in the boxes, instead you just get the statline like in 40k. I love downgrades!

Yeah, not a fan of that...but I get why they've changed it. More annoyed about the lack of warscrolls online again.

I also get why they changed it, and the fact that they save money on printing multiple languages and they create more pressure to buy the instantly-obsolete printed material is not good for me as a customer. I am under no obligation to care for GW's bottom line, and hope whoever approved it gets pubic fleas.

The box warscrolls went obsolete once a new battletome hit anyways, and I've never witnessed anyone using them. I'd rather they just save the paper.

 DaveC wrote:
In Grimdark Lives latest show they are backing up the rumour that there will be a BoC vs GSG box with a new Scuttleboss, Doombull, Bullgors and Jabberslythe. No new Gors or Beastlords.BoC battle tome possibly in October. With Maggotkin, Ogors and GSG to follow - not necessarily in that order (Grimdark Live reported the Kruleboyz rumours and got them correct)

Welp. This gives more credibility to the 4chan rumor, as this was exactly what they said. At the very least, Grimdark Live proved to be reliable.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The box warscrolls went obsolete once a new battletome hit anyways, and I've never witnessed anyone using them. I'd rather they just save the paper.

Why have them at all then? Why keep this useless truncated version?