Author |
Message |
|
|
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
|
2022/10/30 19:02:10
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Crazed Gorger
New Jersey
|
JSG wrote:Another nail in the coffin of plastic maneaters I guess.
Yup. I don't understand why they were pulled from the store if they didn't have plans to do anything with them.
If I was building a new gutbusters army that Vanguard box is pretty solid even without Ironguts. I'm little concerned about the mournfang though; since the BCR box is now OOP and the regular mournfang box seems to be discontinued, will this be the only way to get them? And only 2 per box?
With only one new model/warscroll and a set of dice, this Ogor release is very underwhelming. That tome better be gak-hot.
|
|
|
|
2022/10/30 19:05:28
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Locked in the Tower of Amareo
|
Range rotation. GW was pretty honest about that in front.
As for mournfang...Term rebox ring a bell? Why this happens every single time new book comes out? Old box goes OOP, people panic it's gone, it comes up in new AOS3 style box.
EVERY...SINGLE...TIME!
Why I even waste time saying this for about 12th time in past year anyway? Because cometh the next book and next rebox to AOS3 style box people panic again. "THE UNIT IS GONE FOR GOOD! PANIC PANIC PANIC!"
It's...just...a...rebox.
Do you know what other units have done same? Stuff like draconith riders. Orruk brutes. Hearthguard berserkers. Are they OOP?
|
2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
|
|
|
2022/10/30 19:19:22
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Crazed Gorger
New Jersey
|
tneva82 wrote:Range rotation. GW was pretty honest about that in front.
As for mournfang...Term rebox ring a bell? Why this happens every single time new book comes out? Old box goes OOP, people panic it's gone, it comes up in new AOS3 style box.
EVERY...SINGLE...TIME!
Why I even waste time saying this for about 12th time in past year anyway? Because cometh the next book and next rebox to AOS3 style box people panic again. "THE UNIT IS GONE FOR GOOD! PANIC PANIC PANIC!"
It's...just...a...rebox.
Do you know what other units have done same? Stuff like draconith riders. Orruk brutes. Hearthguard berserkers. Are they OOP?
You seem very upset. Are you having a bad day?
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 08:23:47
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Fixture of Dakka
|
Prices
Slaves to Darkness £120 €155 $200
Pelt Hunter £27.50 €35 $45
Vanguard boxes £80 €105 $130
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2022/10/31 08:33:04
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 09:35:29
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
|
DaveC wrote:Prices
Slaves to Darkness £120 €155 $200
Pelt Hunter £27.50 €35 $45
Vanguard boxes £80 €105 $130
Never before has GW's proprietary currency calculator seemed so broken.
|
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 09:54:46
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Been Around the Block
|
150€ for a Codex (~40€), 1 DP (can be assumed 40-45€ I think?), 10 Chosen (will GW sell them in Boxes of 5 for 45€? Would match their pricing for elite units) and the cards, which are not the warscroll ones if I remember that correctly from the pic (another 20-30€). Oh and I forgott: The Myrmidions which will likely be another 40-45€
With a 20% retail discount I see 120€. One could argue that this is an okay deal, I am somehow not convinced yet.
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 10:15:27
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
|
charles_the_dead_lizzard wrote:150€ for a Codex (~40€), 1 DP (can be assumed 40-45€ I think?), 10 Chosen (will GW sell them in Boxes of 5 for 45€? Would match their pricing for elite units) and the cards, which are not the warscroll ones if I remember that correctly from the pic (another 20-30€). Oh and I forgott: The Myrmidions which will likely be another 40-45€
With a 20% retail discount I see 120€. One could argue that this is an okay deal, I am somehow not convinced yet.
Well don't forget the boxed set is likely sold through 3rd parties as well. So you can get that 20% retail discount on the boxed set itself.
Also the codex in these sets are normally the "deluxe" ones. Granted the only difference is the front cover design (this time it lacks a little box around the name) and the material and you get a bookmark ribbon - for about double the price. So its rarely if never been value for money; but it does increase the cost
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2022/10/31 10:16:15
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 11:17:06
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Huge Bone Giant
|
Nice to see the army set releasing already. I reckon that makes solo releases this year a possibility, at least. Price for these things seems stable for now, too. At least in €.
Manfred von Drakken wrote: DaveC wrote:Prices
Slaves to Darkness £120 €155 $200
Pelt Hunter £27.50 €35 $45
Vanguard boxes £80 €105 $130
Never before has GW's proprietary currency calculator seemed so broken.
GW accountant: *checks notes, looks up* Seems to work as intended, dear concerned customer. *turns around, high fives passing accountant*
At least GW's financial reports will be more interesting again. Will rising costs lower their profits? Will favorable (aka made up) exchange rates win out over that? It's a lot more exciting than waiting for GW to post the next record profit as they have been for a few years.
|
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
|
|
|
2022/10/31 12:40:02
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
|
Geifer wrote:Nice to see the army set releasing already. I reckon that makes solo releases this year a possibility, at least. Price for these things seems stable for now, too. At least in €.
Manfred von Drakken wrote: DaveC wrote:Prices
Slaves to Darkness £120 €155 $200
Pelt Hunter £27.50 €35 $45
Vanguard boxes £80 €105 $130
Never before has GW's proprietary currency calculator seemed so broken.
GW accountant: *checks notes, looks up* Seems to work as intended, dear concerned customer. *turns around, high fives passing accountant*
At least GW's financial reports will be more interesting again. Will rising costs lower their profits? Will favorable (aka made up) exchange rates win out over that? It's a lot more exciting than waiting for GW to post the next record profit as they have been for a few years.
These decisions are rarely made by accountants.
|
Ex-Mantic Rules Committees: Kings of War, Warpath
"The Emperor is obviously not a dictator, he's a couch."
Starbuck: "Why can't we use the starboard launch bays?"
Engineer: "Because it's a gift shop!" |
|
|
|
2022/10/31 12:48:45
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Fresh-Faced New User
|
Well, thats pretty much the expected price and pretty much the expected grumbling.
( Honestly, if you consider that box a bad deal you should get a new hobby, 'cause thats the price point we are at)
That said i am still not 100% sold on the new models.
Chosen look great but somehow not as over the top as expected.
DP looks great but i have an insane amount of converted ones (as well as every previous one).
And those myrmidions are just better looking Minotaurus, are they not?
Ah, who am i kiddding.
I own pretty much every chaos kit and
I am going to buy the kits sooner or later, anyway. Might as well get them now - with a reasonable discount.
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 12:52:52
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
On a slightly unrelated note, does anyone know what the timeframe is for Underworld kits transitioning to AoS?
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 13:07:20
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Locked in the Tower of Amareo
|
For me this is easy box to get. Don't have chosens, have khorne DP but need tzeentch one and rest don't have either.
If I don't get this might just as well sell my StD as all other expansions are even more expensive Not sold on chosen rules for must win lists but for my style lists look fun.
|
2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
|
|
|
2022/10/31 13:13:30
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
|
Based on leaked rules or even other pics from the army book, does anyone know if the Chosen have any other armaments?
Are they all two-handed axes/hammers, or are there halberds and/or sword & board options in there?
|
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 13:41:00
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
H.B.M.C. wrote:Based on leaked rules or even other pics from the army book, does anyone know if the Chosen have any other armaments?
Are they all two-handed axes/hammers, or are there halberds and/or sword & board options in there?
According to the warscroll it's just the one weapon option.
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 13:47:03
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
|
His Master's Voice wrote:On a slightly unrelated note, does anyone know what the timeframe is for Underworld kits transitioning to AoS?
Hard to say really, especially as the Underworld sets are 100% AOS compatible from launch. The only difference is the AoS only sets come without cards, though with the timelags and price creep sometimes there isn't all that much gain in waiting to get a card free set.
H.B.M.C. wrote:Based on leaked rules or even other pics from the army book, does anyone know if the Chosen have any other armaments?
Are they all two-handed axes/hammers, or are there halberds and/or sword & board options in there?
From memory the chosen were mostly the two handed warriors whilst sword and shield was more of a warrior element. That said GW has been on a bit of "make them all the same" in AOS when it comes to weapons, so we might see a dip in weapon variety here and there
|
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 14:02:36
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
|
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 14:06:43
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
|
Gods those are awesome!
|
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 14:11:26
Subject: Re:AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Dakka Veteran
|
Already trying to envisage them on square/rectangular bases...
Those are some lovely models. Updates the look whilst retaining the general tone.
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 14:15:11
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Foxy Wildborne
|
Really liking the Ogor box. Makes the Sylvaneth one look sparse.
|
Posters on ignore list: 36
40k Potica Edition - 40k patch with reactions, suppression and all that good stuff. Feedback thread here.
Gangs of Nu Ork - Necromunda / Gorkamorka expansion supporting all faction. Feedback thread here. |
|
|
|
2022/10/31 14:27:13
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Dominating Dominatrix
|
Chaos Warriors with halberds, hell yeah!
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 15:31:15
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Overread wrote:
Hard to say really, especially as the Underworld sets are 100% AOS compatible from launch. The only difference is the AoS only sets come without cards, though with the timelags and price creep sometimes there isn't all that much gain in waiting to get a card free set.
It's less about saving money on the cards, and more just getting the models I want. I forgot to buy the Gutter Runners when they were available, and now that I'm making yet another Mordehim Skaven warband, I have to wait for them to show up in the AoS section.
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 15:51:15
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Tunneling Trygon
|
Tiny bit disappointed by the Warriors, honestly. Haven't read the leaks, but I assume this means dual hand weapons are out? Halberds all held awkwardly because they can't go two-handed without losing the shields.
I understand it would make for a much more expensive kit, but it would have been nice to have the option for shields slung over the back to accommodate the extra hand needed to hold a second weapon, or the one halberd properly.
|
|
|
|
2022/10/31 16:11:53
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Locked in the Tower of Amareo
|
Well adding monsters does that...As is that sylvaneth box is pure gold for new sylvaneth players. 2 is EASILY worth it. 3-4 isn't even unreasonable if you want to play both kurnoth and treelord heavy armies.
Ogor book remains to be seen how worthwhile cannons and leadbelchers are and do gluttons really work but sylvaneth one is very good value. Pre-ogors considered sylvaneth one best one so far(contents got leaked months ago. Been waiting for that box since then though in the meanwhile kind of lost motivation for sylvaneth as it's so non-interactive army...)
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2022/10/31 16:12:39
2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
|
|
|
2022/10/31 17:15:26
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Boosting Space Marine Biker
|
Tim the Biovore wrote:Tiny bit disappointed by the Warriors, honestly. Haven't read the leaks, but I assume this means dual hand weapons are out? Halberds all held awkwardly because they can't go two-handed without losing the shields.
I understand it would make for a much more expensive kit, but it would have been nice to have the option for shields slung over the back to accommodate the extra hand needed to hold a second weapon, or the one halberd properly.
Khagra's ravagers at least have one model doing exactly that, and the lord on horse also seems to have multiple weapons on his body. Was hoping they'd go in that direction, with chaos warriors with multiple hand weapons AND shields.
|
|
|
|
2022/11/01 10:55:04
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Evasive Eshin Assassin
|
I didnt notice that but you're right.
thats kind of annoying if you have a bunch of dual hand weapon warriors.
now equipped with...
Murderous Weapon or Ensorcelled Halberd.
|
|
|
|
2022/11/01 12:23:34
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Hangin' with Gork & Mork
|
Initially I thought it was Warriors with two-handed weapons but apparently it is Chosen with two-handed, which don't look radically different than Warriors. Not sure game wise what the difference is in AoS.
|
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
|
|
|
|
2022/11/01 15:23:08
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Evasive Eshin Assassin
|
chosen have more attacks and do more damage plus some special rules.
|
|
|
|
2022/11/01 15:46:25
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
|
|
|
|
2022/11/01 15:57:38
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Boosting Black Templar Biker
Minnesota
|
Love seeing Slaves to Darkness get buffs and new toys
|
|
|
|
|
2022/11/01 16:23:20
Subject: AOS N&R (Various FAQ/Errata up on Warcom 10/27. Metawatch vid pg 106)
|
|
Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
|
...but we already have them?
|
Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. |
|
|
|
|