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 Kanluwen wrote:

 solkan wrote:
I think it's hilarious that they're doing a two week pre-order window and the box is probably going to spend thirteen days, twenty three hours, and fifty five minutes of that sold out online.

Edit: Anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for the "Kill Team Essentials" accessory box and cards to sell out?

They said they've produced as many of the Kill Team set as they have Dominion, and that's still available online.

I don't remember the exact wording but I don’t think they said they made as many as Dominion. They said they made plenty so they were expecting it to hang around for a while, similar to how Dominion has hung around for a while.If they aren’t expecting it to be as popular as Dominion maybe they made less, if they were expecting it to be more popular, maybe they made more.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 solkan wrote:
I think it's hilarious that they're doing a two week pre-order window and the box is probably going to spend thirteen days, twenty three hours, and fifty five minutes of that sold out online.

Edit: Anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for the "Kill Team Essentials" accessory box and cards to sell out?

They said they've produced as many of the Kill Team set as they have Dominion, and that's still available online.

I don't remember the exact wording but I don’t think they said they made as many as Dominion. They said they made plenty so they were expecting it to hang around for a while, similar to how Dominion has hung around for a while.If they aren’t expecting it to be as popular as Dominion maybe they made less, if they were expecting it to be more popular, maybe they made more.

At the very least, the "kill team essentials" and the "tac ops cards" should remain in production, since they're kind of important to the playing of the game.

I say this, but 90% of the play supplies you need for games like Warcry, Necromunda, and the previous Kill Team disappeared after the first few months and were never seen again, so, who knows.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 solkan wrote:
I think it's hilarious that they're doing a two week pre-order window and the box is probably going to spend thirteen days, twenty three hours, and fifty five minutes of that sold out online.

Edit: Anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for the "Kill Team Essentials" accessory box and cards to sell out?

They said they've produced as many of the Kill Team set as they have Dominion, and that's still available online.

I don't remember the exact wording but I don’t think they said they made as many as Dominion. They said they made plenty so they were expecting it to hang around for a while, similar to how Dominion has hung around for a while.If they aren’t expecting it to be as popular as Dominion maybe they made less, if they were expecting it to be more popular, maybe they made more.

This. Not to mention that Dominion still being available means little anyway as we're comparing AOS to 40k, with the latter having far higher demand

Any news on if the Killzones from previous KT are still usable?

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Any news on if the Killzones from previous KT are still usable?

Any boards/terrain from those boxes is still good, don't think any extra rules are though.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Any news on if the Killzones from previous KT are still usable?

This is a total rules overhaul, so I would not expect anything other than models to be carried over.

Honestly, I'm not expecting other than the Krieg to be really "difficult to find" if the game does sell out.

Why people love those gas-masked loons I'll never understand.


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GoatboyBeta wrote:

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Any news on if the Killzones from previous KT are still usable?

This is a total rules overhaul, so I would not expect anything other than models to be carried over.

Ehh...they'll likely get refreshed rules, at least.

They did say that the Kommandos and Krieg would be sold separately

And they also teased (and rumors have also suggested) that other factions would get 'specialist boxes' aimed at Kill Team but that could also be used for 40k. The rumors pointed to Craftworld and Tau getting those sorts of boxes as well. Wouldn't be surprised to see them in a dual box set much like this one.

I could see it, Tau vs Eldar fighting in some Imperium streets or something.

 Kanluwen wrote:


Why people love those gas-masked loons I'll never understand.

Ever had to paint faces on 80 Guardsmen?

[img]Is that a new Astra Militarum/DKoK transfer sheet up by the box?

The maroon diamonds looks similar to a transfer sheet made by Forgeworld.

If so, it seems to augur well for the belief that a larger DKoK release is in the offing.

drbored wrote:
They did say that the Kommandos and Krieg would be sold separately

And they also teased (and rumors have also suggested) that other factions would get 'specialist boxes' aimed at Kill Team but that could also be used for 40k. The rumors pointed to Craftworld and Tau getting those sorts of boxes as well. Wouldn't be surprised to see them in a dual box set much like this one.

I could see it, Tau vs Eldar fighting in some Imperium streets or something.

Of course they said that they would be sold separately. Nobody expected them to be forever locked.

But there's only so much interest in Kommandos versus what looks to just be a "basic" Guardsman kit. I can only see so many people snapping these up for Kommandos, but man anyone who wants to sell Krieg is probably going to make $$$.

Additionally, the teases we've had from Rumor Engine point towards:
-Tyranids(some bits that looked Lictor-y)
-Genestealer Cult(a big bada-boom detonator)
-Craftworlds(gloved ranger-y hand on a mine/beacon)

Ack, just realized the DKoK & Kommando rules can only be found in the Octarius box. Looks like I'll need to get the full box after all, don't fancy the idea of having to wait for months just to get rules to all the factions, who knows when GW will releases those (they are not included in the Compendium, duh!).

I am trying to get as many people to play KT as possible from our 40K group, which is why I'll need to have rules and stats for every faction available for the game, in case someone wants to join in.

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 tauist wrote:
Ack, just realized the DKoK & Kommando rules can only be found in the Octarius box.

They said in the Stream that the Compendium also will include those Factions from the Ocatarius Set.

 flaherty wrote:
[img]Is that a new Astra Militarum/DKoK transfer sheet up by the box?

The maroon diamonds looks similar to a transfer sheet made by Forgeworld.

If so, it seems to augur well for the belief that a larger DKoK release is in the offing.

There is a Rumor which says that GW will overtake the FW Tranfers from Horus Heresy. Possible that all new Transfers have the same Quality - see the newest CSM Transfers.

Prices are out;
£125 for the box
£30 for the core book
£30 for the compendium
£20 for the essentials
£20 per dice set

£30 for the books is very insulting. They didn't even have the decency to make them hardback. I don't even want 90% of the compendium!

I made a scale comparison of the new Death Korps models.

They come indeed on 25mm bases. Actually they are smaller than I thought, in line with Cadians.

Sadly I don't have the Forge World versions to compare them to, but even though the new Death Korps are probably a bit beefier and have slightly larger lasguns, I think they won't look out of place.

More thoughts of the Octarius starter box and new edition of Kill Team here: https://taleofpainters.com/2021/08/review-kill-team-octarius-starter-set-first-impressions-unboxing/

If you like list building like in Necromunda or old Kill Team, then you'll probably have a hard time. The new roster selection rules are very streamlined and restricted.

 kirotheavenger wrote:
Prices are out;
£125 for the box
£30 for the core book
£30 for the compendium
£20 for the essentials
£20 per dice set

£30 for the books is very insulting. They didn't even have the decency to make them hardback. I don't even want 90% of the compendium!

Oof on the softcover books.
Box is as expected, I still think it's too high, but I don't like the terrain, so...
Do we know if the cards are the same as the extra cards?

It sounds like the separate cards are identical that come with the boxed game, they did the exact same thing when releasing the last edition.

For those who want a rule book, I am sure you will be able to grab one on eBay for much cheaper than £30 from those buying a couple of boxes or splitting boxes. Same goes for the cards and the essentials.

Those sprues are interesting.

How swappable are the Krieg heads? Could you easily use a 3rd party head or they really integrated?

 kirotheavenger wrote:
Those sprues are interesting.

How swappable are the Krieg heads? Could you easily use a 3rd party head or they really integrated?

They are integrated. Each head is meant to fit a specific body, as each head comes with an attached hose that attaches to the rebreather unit on the bodies. Therefore you also can't turn the heads.

What about using a different head entirely that doesn't have a hose? Is it a flat neck joint?

Polygon review. Not exactly my go-to for miniatures gaming critiques, and some clear conflicting statements with news articles from GW, so take it with a grain of salt.

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/reviews/22611779/warhammer-40k-kill-team-octarius-reboot-orks-krieg-review

Those prices are ridiculous. £60 worth of softback rules and it will still sell out Day 1.

https://canyourollacrit.com/2021/08/09/kill-team-octarius/

Multiple models in melee alluded to: outnumbering your opponent in engagement range give +1 to hit in melee. Hrm. Going to have to review datacards and cogitate here.

£125 when all I want is the DKoK is a bit much.

I'm just trying to justify in my head now, the terrain could be useful, and then the Orks.

Will I want to paint up the Orks? Maybe, they do look like fun models, but that would be it.
I can't see me selling them on for that much to make the outlay justifiable.
Swapping the Orks for more DKoK.

£125, let's say £60 worth of terrain and rules in total (sort of, £125 is probably a great deal once we know the terrain RRP of the box), so £32.50 per squad, and if I swap, that's £65 for two squads of Guardsmen.

Take 10-20% off that for 3rd party... So £26 per DKoK squad, sounds about right...

 kirotheavenger wrote:
What about using a different head entirely that doesn't have a hose? Is it a flat neck joint?

Well, if there is a knife, there is a way

The necks are part of the bodies, and you slot the head into the neck and collar section. Using different heads is not impossible, but you would have to trim each head until it fits (and probably need to fill the inevitable gaps with green stuff).

 stahly wrote:

 kirotheavenger wrote:
What about using a different head entirely that doesn't have a hose? Is it a flat neck joint?

Well, if there is a knife, there is a way

The necks are part of the bodies, and you slot the head into the neck and collar section. Using different heads is not impossible, but you would have to trim each head until it fits (and probably need to fill the inevitable gaps with green stuff).

Disappointing, thanks.

I want to know abkut Space Marine Scouts! I have over 30 that dont get to see regular 40k play.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 solkan wrote:
I think it's hilarious that they're doing a two week pre-order window and the box is probably going to spend thirteen days, twenty three hours, and fifty five minutes of that sold out online.

Edit: Anyone want to take bets on how long it takes for the "Kill Team Essentials" accessory box and cards to sell out?

They said they've produced as many of the Kill Team set as they have Dominion, and that's still available online.

I don't remember the exact wording but I don’t think they said they made as many as Dominion. They said they made plenty so they were expecting it to hang around for a while, similar to how Dominion has hung around for a while.If they aren’t expecting it to be as popular as Dominion maybe they made less, if they were expecting it to be more popular, maybe they made more.

In essence we have maybe 3 minutes instead of 30 seconds? Shame I really wanted a box set...

Glass Half Dead has a video going through the rulebook.
Each friendly supporting in combat (IE engaged with your target but not engaged with anyone else) gives the person attacking +1 to-hit.

TBH not that powerful, melee attacking a Custodes with a Guardsman is 100% a suicidal waste of time, no matter how many guys you have on him.
Best they could do is get a single hit through if they're the attacker.

 stahly wrote:

I made a scale comparison of the new Death Korps models.

They come indeed on 25mm bases. Actually they are smaller than I thought, in line with Cadians.

Sadly I don't have the Forge World versions to compare them to, but even though the new Death Korps are probably a bit beefier and have slightly larger lasguns, I think they won't look out of place.

Thank you for posting the pic. They're exactly the size I was hoping for, they will look perfect next to the primaris marines.