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(HN) wrote:

The inclusion of this VERY generic powerpack (Geee, thanks GW for that amazing upgrade sprue) when talking about the relic is... worrying to say the least.

While I really don't mind having to model the relics on my minies (I'm a huge wysiwyg guy) having that kind of very generic stuff be a "relic" would be pretty stupid.

How? The article clearly is talking about the Holy Hand Grenade and all it says is that these parts could be used to denote the model in the unit that carries a relic, not that the power pack is a relic.

 Gert wrote:

(HN) wrote:

The inclusion of this VERY generic powerpack (Geee, thanks GW for that amazing upgrade sprue) when talking about the relic is... worrying to say the least.

While I really don't mind having to model the relics on my minies (I'm a huge wysiwyg guy) having that kind of very generic stuff be a "relic" would be pretty stupid.

How? The article clearly is talking about the Holy Hand Grenade and all it says is that these parts could be used to denote the model in the unit that carries a relic, not that the power pack is a relic.

Well... does it tho? The image clearly contain the Orb (which is the first relic detailed) and the second relic is an Icon on a back pack.... which is exactly what the backpack in the picture represent.

Are you being forced into using that specific power pack as the relic? No. So what's the problem?

I have a bunch of orbs from the old Black Templar upgrade kit that I have attached to random sergeants and HQ dudes as regular grenades just for the pretty factor.

(HN) wrote:
While I really don't mind having to model the relics on my minies (I'm a huge wysiwyg guy) having that kind of very generic stuff be a "relic" would be pretty stupid.

You don't actually have to put those parts on your models to represent the relics. It's optional:

If you want to go a step further – like every good Black Templar should – you can use one of these upgrades to single out your Relic-bearing miniature on the tabletop.

Oh yeah the combi-weapon changed as well. I prefer the new one.

 Matrindur wrote:
Normally I would say the second one is the preproduction version as you can see some layer lines on the axe but its also the version they showed later so a little confused here

Maybe both are 3d printed prototypes just from different points in production and they used the wrong one at first

The combibolter from the pic with the backpack inset has a mould line running down the top of it, so is probably the plastic version. Although that pic also has the axe with the layer lines, so who knows? Could be that the first pic was from a test shot of the plastic sprue, and they made some final changes and updated the studio model to match.

Huh, weird. Having just overlaid the two in Photoshop, it's definitely the exact same model, just with the arms swapped out. I'd be very surprised if the little skull isn't still in the backpack, as the highlights are in the exact same position in both photos, which is a pretty strong indicator the backpack hasn't changed.

Get Crusade'd!

"In the name of the immortal Emperor....I am not inspired by these blurbs"

A little too much red for my tastes on the elite guys, but otherwise all the rest of the images were nice....sans the centurions (dumb models).

Preorder Weekend Promise is back

I am highly surprised by the presence of Firstborn front-and-center on the last photo

Here's a question: Are those new Neophyte models, or are they the old ones with the new BT bits?

 Nurglitch wrote:
Here's a question: Are those new Neophyte models, or are they the old ones with the new BT bits?

What Neophytes? There aren't any Neophytes or any of the three pictures.

Leaked Combat Patrol box just got posted on Valrak’s channel. High Marshal, 10 Man Crusader Squad, 5 Intercessors, Impulsor and an Upgrade kit. Looks like good value.

diepotato47 wrote:
Leaked Combat Patrol box just got posted on Valrak’s channel. High Marshal, 10 Man Crusader Squad, 5 Intercessors, Impulsor and an Upgrade kit. Looks like good value.

Helbrecht (with diorama base), or "just" the new Marshall kit?

It's the Marshal kit, not High Marshal, at least per the picture.

Sounds like a decent foundation for a BT army, then, subject to how well BT use an Impulsor.

Centurions pleasing their Primarch I see.

Have to admit that they look better in black with white.

 CMLR wrote:
Centurions pleasing their Primarch I see.

Have to admit that they look better in black with white.

Huh. I was thinking it emphasizes how awkward and non-functional they'd be.
And the red check pattern on the third one reminds me of nothing so much as a kitchen apron out of an old cartoon or Leave it to Beaver.

 Theophony wrote:

A little too much red for my tastes on the elite guys, but otherwise all the rest of the images were nice....sans the centurions (dumb models).

Agreed, they have really, REALLY failed with the color scheme.
I still dont know why they have suddenly decided that the BT weapons were supposed to be red, this just makes them look like the Death Watch... but I guess they thought that since they also changed their chest emblem colour from silver to gold it was a good compromise...

But nah, I'll paint mine with the good ol and way better colorsheme thank you very much.
And while having red trim shoulder pad for the assault and elite unit was always a thing, when you couple it with the weapons and the occasional red crusader seal, it's just way too much.

Also, if anything, these picks just showcase how utterly pathetic the upgrade sprue is. Without chained weapons, knightly helmets tabard or even loincloth, these guys just don't look BT.
Despite trying to appeal to nostalgia by slapping some Blanch art on the codex cover and rolling mini based on it, the rest of their line is just painfully... welp, "primaris generic".

Good thing I'm not afraid of some conversion job and that Forge of Mars is doing an AMAZING job with its 3rd party bits, because otherwise I think I may just have passed on the new BT.

I mostly leave my BT weapons black with lead belcher lining, but I do mix in some white and red weapons for variation. The old 4th edition Codex had a comment about them not eschewing to uniform unit numbering and patterns and often squad make ups would change from mission to mission. IIRC

Have we seen the sprues for either of the infantry squads yet? I know we've seen the upgrade sprue.

Gotta love those derpy lego bricks, just take them out behind a barn already.

The Crusade Rules for the BT are miles ahead of the ones for Deathwatch, they really catch the tone and character of the faction well.
GW was really playing it safe early on but each subsequent Codex seems to really be doing excellent work with its Crusade rules.

 kronk wrote:
I mostly leave my BT weapons black with lead belcher lining, but I do mix in some white and red weapons for variation. The old 4th edition Codex had a comment about them not eschewing to uniform unit numbering and patterns and often squad make ups would change from mission to mission. IIRC

Yeah, I get that there are different crusades and there will be some variation to the schemes even within a unit so that is cool. Just the Red Elite units seem like they forgot that Red is an accent color .

 Theophony wrote:

 kronk wrote:
I mostly leave my BT weapons black with lead belcher lining, but I do mix in some white and red weapons for variation. The old 4th edition Codex had a comment about them not eschewing to uniform unit numbering and patterns and often squad make ups would change from mission to mission. IIRC

Yeah, I get that there are different crusades and there will be some variation to the schemes even within a unit so that is cool. Just the Red Elite units seem like they forgot that Red is an accent color .

Some accents are obviously stronger than others...

Controversial take: I've always really liked Centurions.

 kronk wrote:
I mostly leave my BT weapons black with lead belcher lining, but I do mix in some white and red weapons for variation. The old 4th edition Codex had a comment about them not eschewing to uniform unit numbering and patterns and often squad make ups would change from mission to mission. IIRC

Nostalgia time - the 2nd edition depiction of them in Codex: Ultramarines had them with blue weapons and the colour of the chest eagle denoting companies.

I think the Black/Red/White colour scheme is really cool personally. Limited, but very coherent and looks nice on most units.