Switch Theme:

Black Templars Compiled thread(Updated 10/4) PREORDERS OCT 9.  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut





 Albertorius wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:
Cronch wrote:
 zend wrote:
This isn’t a seasonal Battleforce or starter box, it’s three brand new kits bundled with a slightly discounted older kit and a new codex/Warscroll deck. They’re not intending this to be anything other than what they’re selling it as.

Sure, and the optic is still (to me!) underscoring how expensive the kits are. 13 models for over 100 pounds is not cheap or reasonable, even if you assume it's not meant to be discount set at all.


/shrug

Seems in line with industry standards. Infinity packs like Operation Kaldstorm come with 14 minis for 110 GBP before discounts. Less options, much smaller and no hardback book.

It's not cheap, but not unusual (unfortunately?) in this hobby.


Sure it is... it only depends on how much you cherry pick. OTOH, if you go compare with other things like Stargrave boxes, well, the deal seems significantly different.

For example, I paid less than half the cost of that box for the three Stargrave boxes plus the Nickstarted freebies.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 zend wrote:
This isn’t a seasonal Battleforce or starter box, it’s three brand new kits bundled with a slightly discounted older kit and a new codex/Warscroll deck. They’re not intending this to be anything other than what they’re selling it as.


A bad deal?



Are they advertising it as some kind of deal? Or are you meaning “I do not think Games workshop models are worth their MSRP” when you say deal?

This box isn’t intended as some kind of deal. It’s a bundle of new products sold at MSRP, with a special cover for the book and a Dreadnought added to entice you to buy into the FOMO.

If it said Battleforce on it, I’d say it’s a bad deal too. Unless those 13 models were Knights for only $200.

   
Made in pl
Longtime Dakkanaut




Germany

 zend wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:
Cronch wrote:
 zend wrote:
This isn’t a seasonal Battleforce or starter box, it’s three brand new kits bundled with a slightly discounted older kit and a new codex/Warscroll deck. They’re not intending this to be anything other than what they’re selling it as.

Sure, and the optic is still (to me!) underscoring how expensive the kits are. 13 models for over 100 pounds is not cheap or reasonable, even if you assume it's not meant to be discount set at all.


/shrug

Seems in line with industry standards. Infinity packs like Operation Kaldstorm come with 14 minis for 110 GBP before discounts. Less options, much smaller and no hardback book.

It's not cheap, but not unusual (unfortunately?) in this hobby.


Sure it is... it only depends on how much you cherry pick. OTOH, if you go compare with other things like Stargrave boxes, well, the deal seems significantly different.

For example, I paid less than half the cost of that box for the three Stargrave boxes plus the Nickstarted freebies.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 zend wrote:
This isn’t a seasonal Battleforce or starter box, it’s three brand new kits bundled with a slightly discounted older kit and a new codex/Warscroll deck. They’re not intending this to be anything other than what they’re selling it as.


A bad deal?

This box isn’t intended as some kind of deal. It’s a bundle of new products sold at MSRP, with a special cover for the book and a Dreadnought added to entice you to buy into the FOMO.


If anything, that Dreadnought is doing the opposite of enticing people, since it's not a new model, it's avalible separately, has shown up in bundles quite a few times, and it's biggest contribution to the box is jacking up the price. If that Dread were the Sword Brethren i imagine it would make the box more interesting to quite a few people.

"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado 
   
Made in fi
Courageous Space Marine Captain






Sunny Side Up wrote:

And the Startgrave stuff is a pretty bad deal compared to Reaper Bones pledges. Even most Zombicide deals. Etc..

So buy those instead of this Black Templars box. Problem solved.

   
Made in es
Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer






 zend wrote:
Are they advertising it as some kind of deal? Or are you meaning “I do not think Games workshop models are worth their MSRP” when you say deal?

This box isn’t intended as some kind of deal. It’s a bundle of new products sold at MSRP, with a special cover for the book and a Dreadnought added to entice you to buy into the FOMO.

If it said Battleforce on it, I’d say it’s a bad deal too. Unless those 13 models were Knights for only $200.


That is precisely what I mean, only not a generic "games workshop models". I mean that I don't think what you get in that box is worth what they're asking for, irrespective of the MSRP.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Crimson wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:

And the Startgrave stuff is a pretty bad deal compared to Reaper Bones pledges. Even most Zombicide deals. Etc..

So buy those instead of this Black Templars box. Problem solved.


I did that, yes.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/10/10 21:46:13


 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut





 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 zend wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:
Cronch wrote:
 zend wrote:
This isn’t a seasonal Battleforce or starter box, it’s three brand new kits bundled with a slightly discounted older kit and a new codex/Warscroll deck. They’re not intending this to be anything other than what they’re selling it as.

Sure, and the optic is still (to me!) underscoring how expensive the kits are. 13 models for over 100 pounds is not cheap or reasonable, even if you assume it's not meant to be discount set at all.


/shrug

Seems in line with industry standards. Infinity packs like Operation Kaldstorm come with 14 minis for 110 GBP before discounts. Less options, much smaller and no hardback book.

It's not cheap, but not unusual (unfortunately?) in this hobby.


Sure it is... it only depends on how much you cherry pick. OTOH, if you go compare with other things like Stargrave boxes, well, the deal seems significantly different.

For example, I paid less than half the cost of that box for the three Stargrave boxes plus the Nickstarted freebies.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 zend wrote:
This isn’t a seasonal Battleforce or starter box, it’s three brand new kits bundled with a slightly discounted older kit and a new codex/Warscroll deck. They’re not intending this to be anything other than what they’re selling it as.


A bad deal?

This box isn’t intended as some kind of deal. It’s a bundle of new products sold at MSRP, with a special cover for the book and a Dreadnought added to entice you to buy into the FOMO.


If anything, that Dreadnought is doing the opposite of enticing people, since it's not a new model, it's avalible separately, has shown up in bundles quite a few times, and it's biggest contribution to the box is jacking up the price. If that Dread were the Sword Brethren i imagine it would make the box more interesting to quite a few people.


Then they wouldn’t have discounted the bundle at all and you’d be crying even harder .


Do I need to link the thread for those new Vanguard/Necron army bundles? I don’t think I do, but I will if you ask.
   
Made in pl
Longtime Dakkanaut




Germany

 zend wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
 zend wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:
Cronch wrote:
 zend wrote:
This isn’t a seasonal Battleforce or starter box, it’s three brand new kits bundled with a slightly discounted older kit and a new codex/Warscroll deck. They’re not intending this to be anything other than what they’re selling it as.

Sure, and the optic is still (to me!) underscoring how expensive the kits are. 13 models for over 100 pounds is not cheap or reasonable, even if you assume it's not meant to be discount set at all.


/shrug

Seems in line with industry standards. Infinity packs like Operation Kaldstorm come with 14 minis for 110 GBP before discounts. Less options, much smaller and no hardback book.

It's not cheap, but not unusual (unfortunately?) in this hobby.


Sure it is... it only depends on how much you cherry pick. OTOH, if you go compare with other things like Stargrave boxes, well, the deal seems significantly different.

For example, I paid less than half the cost of that box for the three Stargrave boxes plus the Nickstarted freebies.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 zend wrote:
This isn’t a seasonal Battleforce or starter box, it’s three brand new kits bundled with a slightly discounted older kit and a new codex/Warscroll deck. They’re not intending this to be anything other than what they’re selling it as.


A bad deal?

This box isn’t intended as some kind of deal. It’s a bundle of new products sold at MSRP, with a special cover for the book and a Dreadnought added to entice you to buy into the FOMO.


If anything, that Dreadnought is doing the opposite of enticing people, since it's not a new model, it's avalible separately, has shown up in bundles quite a few times, and it's biggest contribution to the box is jacking up the price. If that Dread were the Sword Brethren i imagine it would make the box more interesting to quite a few people.


Then they wouldn’t have discounted the bundle at all and you’d be crying even harder .

Do I need to link the thread for those new Vanguard/Necron army bundles? I don’t think I do, but I will if you ask.


I dunno, it's the same price as the Sisters of Battle and Beast Snagga boxes, and those were both entirely new models, and discounted.

Because that's what this army box is equivalent to, not the recent bundles.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/10/10 22:27:09


"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado 
   
Made in es
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain




Vigo. Spain.

This BT is a bad box.

But it won't be worse than my purchase of the sister of battle limited box when I could have bought for 30€ cheaper the Combat Patrol plus a rhino minus a codex I didn't even took out the wrapping plastic before using it.

And they will be in Imperium again for cheaper. Nah man, GW printed products have 0 value outside 100% fluff stuff.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut





 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:


I dunno, it's the same price as the Sisters of Battle and Beast Snagga boxes, and those were both entirely new models, and discounted.

Because that's what this army box is equivalent to, not the recent bundles.


You absolutely would complain that there’s no point to the bundle if they didn’t discount anything. You’re actually hurting your own case, because if you want to go by those standard it’s only slightly “worse” than the Snagga box, and it’s actually better than the Sister’s box in monetary terms.

Snagga: $200 worth of models, codex, cards

Sisters: Maybe $180 worth of models, tops? If they were the full kits of the units it would be $223 worth but they’re shared sprue ETB models with no options whatsoever, $8 worth of dice, codex, cards

Templars: $195 worth of models, codex, cards


Woweee it’s $5 under the value of the models in the Ork box….. so terrible. Funnily enough, it would actually lose a further $5 in value if they swapped the Redemptor for the Sword Brethren.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/10/11 00:56:28


 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Love the new Templars, and would love to have scooped them up, but the price is just batdung crazy. I mean, an easy pass when you consider what you’re getting in return for what you’re spending. I sense this will be more and more the case for me going forward.
   
Made in pl
Longtime Dakkanaut




Germany

 zend wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:


I dunno, it's the same price as the Sisters of Battle and Beast Snagga boxes, and those were both entirely new models, and discounted.

Because that's what this army box is equivalent to, not the recent bundles.


You absolutely would complain that there’s no point to the bundle if they didn’t discount anything. You’re actually hurting your own case, because if you want to go by those standard it’s only slightly “worse” than the Snagga box, and it’s actually better than the Sister’s box in monetary terms.

Snagga: $200 worth of models, codex, cards

Sisters: Maybe $180 worth of models, tops? If they were the full kits of the units it would be $223 worth but they’re shared sprue ETB models with no options whatsoever, $8 worth of dice, codex, cards

Templars: $195 worth of models, codex, cards


Woweee it’s $5 under the value of the models in the Ork box….. so terrible. Funnily enough, it would actually lose a further $5 in value if they swapped the Redemptor for the Sword Brethren.



My point is literally that 1/3rd of the Black Templars box isn't even Black Templar models, and the entire Ork Box was, y'know, brand new Ork models?

And let's be honest, the Sword Brethren are gonna be 65$ at least. Bladeguard vets are already 50$, and there's just 3 of them.

"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado 
   
Made in ie
Regular Dakkanaut



Dublin, Ireland

I've been [playing BT's since 2nd ed., and this set SHOULD be an auto-buy for me, as I'd really like that cover on my codex supplement, but as I really don't need another redemptor I'll give it a miss.
   
Made in de
Longtime Dakkanaut




 Crimson wrote:

So buy those instead of this Black Templars box. Problem solved.


Not buying any of those. Just saying the Templar's box is not outside of the norm of other company's products in the same market.

And while I'm not specifically buying the Black Templar's box, doesn't mean I am always racing to the bottom price for whatever garbage there is. I am often fine paying more for a prime Steak then Taco Bell sludge, even if it's less value on a pure quantity-divided-by-price-basis.
   
Made in es
Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer






Sunny Side Up wrote:
 Crimson wrote:

So buy those instead of this Black Templars box. Problem solved.


Not buying any of those. Just saying the Templar's box is not outside of the norm of other company's products in the same market.

And while I'm not specifically buying the Black Templar's box, doesn't mean I am always racing to the bottom price for whatever garbage there is. I am often fine paying more for a prime Steak then Taco Bell sludge, even if it's less value on a pure quantity-divided-by-price-basis.


And other times, you do that and still get served gak, while the ma and pa restaurant gives you the actual quality for a fraction of the price.

Price =/= quality, so there's no need to "race to the bottom price for whatever garbage there is".
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Wayyy too over priced for what you are getting. This is the reason they are still available for preorder from well... everywhere.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





I know he has some of the features of them, but is that Castellan definitely a Firstborn Marine? Have there even been any other Firstborn Marine miniatures released since the Primaris release? I can't remember anything that wasn't Primaris (other than some terminators and characters in board games) over the past few years
   
Made in pl
Longtime Dakkanaut




Germany

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I know he has some of the features of them, but is that Castellan definitely a Firstborn Marine? Have there even been any other Firstborn Marine miniatures released since the Primaris release? I can't remember anything that wasn't Primaris (other than some terminators and characters in board games) over the past few years


Castellan Crowe was explictly non-Primaris. Besides, there have been quite a few limited edition Firstborn Characters, like the two Terminators and the Librarian, and it is theorized that the Firstborn Castellan was originally supposed to be a limited edition mini, due to just how much he doesn't fit with the rest.

"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
- Jiado 
   
Made in us
Stoic Grail Knight





Raleigh, NC

Castellan Crowe may be first born, but I am curious how he appears in size compared to primaris and other first born marines. Calling him a primaris would have had major implications for the range that GW is probably not ready to admit (less it dampen sales of existing GK).

I’m surprised the Black Templar box is still available. Perhaps it’s the preorder promise preventing scalper purchasing, or perhaps it’s the cost of the box itself (which I admit has kept me from purchasing it).
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut






It could also be that while Templars are popular, they are a subfaction army, while sisters and elves were full armies, and even beastsnaggas are universal orks.
   
Made in us
Powerful Ushbati





United States

The way I'm looking at it is:

I'm single.
No kids.
No serious medical issues.
I have an amazing job.

200$ for the models I need to start my force.

In addition to the models in the box, and the models I will buy to fill in the rest of the collection, I also tend to factor in enjoyment, modeling, and games played as a part of the cost.

For me, 200$ is fine. For those who it isn't, they won't buy it. Seems like capitalism working as intended to me. What's the big deal?

Were a lot of the folks in this thread that are upset about the cost really going to buy this army in the first place?

I swear nerds just want an excuse to rage about something. They rage at the world , they rage at their families, but mostly, they just rage.
   
Made in fi
Courageous Space Marine Captain






 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I know he has some of the features of them, but is that Castellan definitely a Firstborn Marine?

It's not. Or at least not exclusively. They specifically gave a primaris lieutenant an option to take the gear that model has. Though non-primaris lieutenants and captains could already take those weapons, so you could use the model to represent them too. Basically it is just a model based on the artwork, and you can use it for whatever you want.

   
Made in de
Huge Bone Giant






 Crimson wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I know he has some of the features of them, but is that Castellan definitely a Firstborn Marine?

It's not. Or at least not exclusively. They specifically gave a primaris lieutenant an option to take the gear that model has. Though non-primaris lieutenants and captains could already take those weapons, so you could use the model to represent them too. Basically it is just a model based on the artwork, and you can use it for whatever you want.


I have to wonder if that still holds up when the model is out and people can compare the anatomy to upscaled Marines and Primaris. It can hardly fit both.

Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? 
   
Made in fr
Crazed Zealot





France

Togusa wrote:
The way I'm looking at it is:

I'm single.
No kids.
No serious medical issues.
I have an amazing job.

200$ for the models I need to start my force.

In addition to the models in the box, and the models I will buy to fill in the rest of the collection, I also tend to factor in enjoyment, modeling, and games played as a part of the cost.

For me, 200$ is fine. For those who it isn't, they won't buy it. Seems like capitalism working as intended to me. What's the big deal?

Were a lot of the folks in this thread that are upset about the cost really going to buy this army in the first place?

I swear nerds just want an excuse to rage about something. They rage at the world , they rage at their families, but mostly, they just rage.

Most people who enjoy the product doesn't even care to post here. There is very few "rage" in reality, it's just that we tend to mostly share what annoys us.

Even I, as a third ed. Black Templar player nostalgic, I can understand concerns about that box that isn't very generous regarding its price and previouses boxes. But one year ago, I was dreaming about a BT army box, with a nice Codex with some John Blanche vibes and some non-generics primaris with tabars and chains and stuff. I was afraid GW would release only a small upgrade sprue (as they did with other chapters), but instead they delivered exactly what I was waiting for. New miniatures are awesome, the book is perfect, and the sprues are decent regarding gear options.

So even if it's not as great value as it could have been, I'm totally buying it. It's not a ripoff as long as you enjoy it, and enjoyment cannot be summarized only by counting minis or calculating discount on separated kits that are always too expensive anyways.

I'm pretty sure every BT player is happy right now, whether they bought the army box or not.

Edit : The Castellan is amazing, I swear I was looking at the famous artwork a few month ago and thinking "why GW doesn't make miniatures that looks like this"... The possibility to play it as a firstborn or primaris is cherry on top.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/10/12 07:54:47


 
   
Made in de
Huge Bone Giant






To add some positivity to try and make Togusa feel a little better, while I didn't have a problem with the new Neophytes per se I wanted to wait for the 360s in the online store before I make up my mind. And I'm happy with how they turned out. I think GW did the bodybuilder physique of Marines justice with them.

Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? 
   
Made in us
Powerful Ushbati





United States

 sigismund22 wrote:
Togusa wrote:
The way I'm looking at it is:

I'm single.
No kids.
No serious medical issues.
I have an amazing job.

200$ for the models I need to start my force.

In addition to the models in the box, and the models I will buy to fill in the rest of the collection, I also tend to factor in enjoyment, modeling, and games played as a part of the cost.

For me, 200$ is fine. For those who it isn't, they won't buy it. Seems like capitalism working as intended to me. What's the big deal?

Were a lot of the folks in this thread that are upset about the cost really going to buy this army in the first place?

I swear nerds just want an excuse to rage about something. They rage at the world , they rage at their families, but mostly, they just rage.

Most people who enjoy the product doesn't even care to post here. There is very few "rage" in reality, it's just that we tend to mostly share what annoys us.

Even I, as a third ed. Black Templar player nostalgic, I can understand concerns about that box that isn't very generous regarding its price and previouses boxes. But one year ago, I was dreaming about a BT army box, with a nice Codex with some John Blanche vibes and some non-generics primaris with tabars and chains and stuff. I was afraid GW would release only a small upgrade sprue (as they did with other chapters), but instead they delivered exactly what I was waiting for. New miniatures are awesome, the book is perfect, and the sprues are decent regarding gear options.

So even if it's not as great value as it could have been, I'm totally buying it. It's not a ripoff as long as you enjoy it, and enjoyment cannot be summarized only by counting minis or calculating discount on separated kits that are always too expensive anyways.

I'm pretty sure every BT player is happy right now, whether they bought the army box or not.

Edit : The Castellan is amazing, I swear I was looking at the famous artwork a few month ago and thinking "why GW doesn't make miniatures that looks like this"... The possibility to play it as a firstborn or primaris is cherry on top.


Just to be clear, I understand why people are mad about the price. Just, it's a price I can pay and don't really have a problem doing.

I agree, I started the hobby with Salamanders in 7th and I really, really would like to do them as a primaris force again. But for now, everything is just too generic. I later read Helsreach and completely fell in love with both the Fists and The Templars. So seeing this release made me super excited because I see what I'd like to see with other primaris units. And what I hope to one day see with my Salamanders. Heck, I hope they bring Dorn and Vulkan themselves to the table!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Geifer wrote:
To add some positivity to try and make Togusa feel a little better, while I didn't have a problem with the new Neophytes per se I wanted to wait for the 360s in the online store before I make up my mind. And I'm happy with how they turned out. I think GW did the bodybuilder physique of Marines justice with them.


I feel the same way, I like the mixed unit too.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/10/12 08:40:04


 
   
Made in at
Boom! Leman Russ Commander





I see we're at the point in the discussion where certain people try to brag about their income as if it somehow wins arguments? I'm sure there's a bit of "It's a luxury hobby" gatekeeping in there somewhere I missed - there always is.

The whole "it's a lot of money, but I can buy it without caring about value, so it's fine" is pretty indicative of why GW sells through pretty much everything - there's no lack of whales who're more than happy to open wide for whatever GW decide to conjure up; I know it, they seem to know it, GW knows it. I can't really begrudge GW as a business for doing that, more so that a lot of people in this don't seem to really comprehend ascribing value to something.

It's new, it's from GW, it's Space Marine models, therefore nothing else even factors into the brain - point, click, buy. It's just such a weird thought process (or lack of it). Take the Catachan Colonel for instance. I've collected Guard for around 20 years, I loved the model, could I have afforded loads of raffle tickets or bought a £150 markup one off Ebay and not have to worry about it hurting my finances? Yeah sure, but I know that's an utterly ludicrous price and so I won't. On the other hand there'll have been people who won't have blinked twice at it - and even more people if it had been a Marine.

It's just weird to me.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/10/12 09:11:36


 
   
Made in us
Powerful Ushbati





United States

 Arbitrator wrote:
I see we're at the point in the discussion where certain people try to brag about their income as if it somehow wins arguments? I'm sure there's a bit of "It's a luxury hobby" gatekeeping in there somewhere I missed - there always is.

The whole "it's a lot of money, but I can buy it without caring about value, so it's fine" is pretty indicative of why GW sells through pretty much everything - there's no lack of whales who're more than happy to open wide for whatever GW decide to conjure up; I know it, they seem to know it, GW knows it. I can't really begrudge GW as a business for doing that, more so that a lot of people in this don't seem to really comprehend ascribing value to something.

It's new, it's from GW, it's Space Marine models, therefore nothing else even factors into the brain - point, click, buy. It's just such a weird thought process (or lack of it). Take the Catachan Colonel for instance. I've collected Guard for around 20 years, I loved the model, could I have afforded loads of raffle tickets or bought a £150 markup one off Ebay and not have to worry about it hurting my finances? Yeah sure, but I know that's an utterly ludicrous price and so I won't. On the other hand there'll have been people who won't have blinked twice at it - and even more people if it had been a Marine.

It's just weird to me.


I paid 35.00 USD for my Catachan Colonel. Where are you getting 150$ from?
   
Made in fr
Crazed Zealot





France

 Arbitrator wrote:
I see we're at the point in the discussion where certain people try to brag about their income as if it somehow wins arguments? I'm sure there's a bit of "It's a luxury hobby" gatekeeping in there somewhere I missed - there always is.

I don't know exactly who you are refering too but I don't see any gatekeeping here. Of course Warhammer is an expensive hobby, it has always been. Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it for years even as I had no salary yet and very few pocket money. I spent more time being creative and enjoying the few models I had.
Now I'm older, I can afford a "luxury" box, it doesn't mean I don't want other people to enjoy it. If the box price is too high, everybody can still buy the models later separately over the month. They won't be more expensive than existing primaris models I guess.

 Arbitrator wrote:
The whole "it's a lot of money, but I can buy it without caring about value, so it's fine" is pretty indicative of why GW sells through pretty much everything - there's no lack of whales who're more than happy to open wide for whatever GW decide to conjure up; I know it, they seem to know it, GW knows it. I can't really begrudge GW as a business for doing that, more so that a lot of people in this don't seem to really comprehend ascribing value to something.

Buying something you want / enjoy doesn't mean you don't care about the value. Otherwise, we would all be only buying strict necessary stuff. These are plastic soldier, they litteraly have no value at all for somebody who isn't into the hobby. With such a mindset, even a box like Indomitus is a ripoff.

All GW business is based on hype/enthusiasm regarding their minis, as long as people enjoy it and buy it, they obviously won't stop making it expensive. Just buy what you like and don't buy what you don't. Don't blame people for buying things you don't like enough.
   
Made in at
Boom! Leman Russ Commander





Togusa wrote:

I paid 35.00 USD for my Catachan Colonel. Where are you getting 150$ from?

Because the vast majority were scalped due to the rarity.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut






Hey I have a question about the Neophytes: if they're basically same as Scouts, i.e. they don't have their Black Carapace yet, how come they've got all the plugs and that for where they attach to power armour in their arms, head etc? Or have I missed something?
   
Made in us
Powerful Ushbati





United States

 Arbitrator wrote:
Togusa wrote:

I paid 35.00 USD for my Catachan Colonel. Where are you getting 150$ from?

Because the vast majority were scalped due to the rarity.


I understand. My FLGS got three of them and sold them at 35$ a piece. I liked Catachans and Steel Legion so I bought one on the off chance they ever do a range refresh for Guard and Catachans get new kits.
   
 
Forum Index » News & Rumors
Go to: