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2021/10/31 09:10:34
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Foxy Wildborne
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Yawn. I remember battle boxes being cooler.
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2021/10/31 09:30:07
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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MonkeyBallistic wrote:If you ask me (and I know nobody did), they completely screwed up Sisters of Silence back when they were released. They had wonderful art depicting a range of SOS units which distinctive appearances, but went with trying to do a complete force in a single kit. It’s one of the worst examples of the models not fitting the already established lore.
They were a release for Horus Heresy that some execs no doubt wanted to push onto 40k for the sales, which is why you end up with the sort of weird lore about how they essentially ceased to exist after the Scouring but came back in time for Guillman to show up a millennia later.
They're a full army in 30k, FW just haven't gotten around to actually making the models.
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2021/10/31 09:53:31
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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I want an Emperor on the Golden Throne objective mini!
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2021/10/31 10:16:55
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Can we afford that, plus the 3 book box and army it bundled with ; )
I think this isn’t a bad box as a whole, and if price here isn’t crazy I will consider picking it up.
Don’t like the running custodes guy, he looks bad though.
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2021/10/31 10:35:12
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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I really like the GSC codex cover art. There’s been some great covers so far this edition.
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2021/10/31 11:30:03
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:GoatboyBeta wrote:IIRC the current Custodes dex has a small bit in the timeline about purging a Stealer cult on Terra. I don't think this is a global day of ascension deal. Most likely the lower levels of a Hive or two.
Yes, around 50 of them went in and purged billions of genestealers.
Puts into perspective how painfully one-sided this box is.
Try putting million genestealer vs 50 custodians and custodians are dead.
Fluff ls fluff. Irrelevant for how one sided box is.
Of course you know this and are just trolling as usual.
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2021/10/31 11:31:13
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Germany
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tneva82 wrote: Wha-Mu-077 wrote:GoatboyBeta wrote:IIRC the current Custodes dex has a small bit in the timeline about purging a Stealer cult on Terra. I don't think this is a global day of ascension deal. Most likely the lower levels of a Hive or two.
Yes, around 50 of them went in and purged billions of genestealers.
Puts into perspective how painfully one-sided this box is.
Try putting million genestealer vs 50 custodians and custodians are dead.
Fluff ls fluff. Irrelevant for how one sided box is.
Regardless of fluff, it still is one of the best armies in the game against one of the worst armies in the game, y'know?
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"Tabletop games are the only setting when a body is made more horrifying for NOT being chopped into smaller pieces."
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2021/10/31 11:42:36
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:tneva82 wrote: Wha-Mu-077 wrote:GoatboyBeta wrote:IIRC the current Custodes dex has a small bit in the timeline about purging a Stealer cult on Terra. I don't think this is a global day of ascension deal. Most likely the lower levels of a Hive or two.
Yes, around 50 of them went in and purged billions of genestealers.
Puts into perspective how painfully one-sided this box is.
Try putting million genestealer vs 50 custodians and custodians are dead.
Fluff ls fluff. Irrelevant for how one sided box is.
Regardless of fluff, it still is one of the best armies in the game against one of the worst armies in the game, y'know?
As I said earlier, wait for the scenarios to see if the box is one sided.
As a theoretical example, as long as one Cultist survives, the Cult will continue to spread. Chalk up a victory for the Genestealer Cults.
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2021/10/31 11:44:13
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Wha-Mu-077 wrote:xerxeskingofking wrote:ok, hear me out on this:
the custodies contents of this box are:
this new champion
3 termies
5 sisters.
unless i am mistaken, these boxes are partly intended to act as starters for these factions, so they contain a battle forged, match play legal detachment, yes? May not be a full 500 points, but the Hexfire one certainly managed that.
so, form that, we can make the following ductions:
The Blade Champion is a HQ choice. hes the only character in the force, he kinda has to be.
EITHER the termies OR the sister are moving to Troops. at 500points, you MUST use a Patrol detachment, which has a mandatory troops unit in it. Ergo, one of those two units (currently both elite choices) must be a troops choice.
thats intresting news..
My money is on SOS's being moved to Troops.
Assuming this is happening. I think the ideal would be SOS being given the poxwalker/tzaangor/cultist treatment and requiring one Custodian infantry unit per SOS squad. Just to prevent HQ+SOS+dreads/tanks lists.
I am intrigued by the how powerful the GSC codex will turn out to be, I can see this being the first on release lemon of a codex, but I can also equally see this being Drukhari 2.0. The least likely outcome I can see is it being mid tier with decent match ups and no brokenly undercosted datasheets.
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2021/10/31 12:46:36
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I think GSC will either be one extreme or the other, dominating the meta for a while or just falling flat on it's face and making everyone question what the point even was. After their 8th 'dex they went from A to D tier so quickly you'd be excused for getting whiplash. Eliminators seemingly being designed specifically to kill any kind of GSC 'meta' was so comical, nevermind the continued punishment Aberrants were made to endure for the sin of being good for two weeks. If the leaks are true, the Blandification that's coming will probably mitigate a lot of the "wtf is happening???" problems people had against them when the 8th 'dex dropped.
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2021/10/31 13:09:14
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Technically termie box builds Captain in terminator armour (and the Aquila waving dude) so that's 2 more right there.
EightFoldPath wrote:Assuming this is happening. I think the ideal would be SOS being given the poxwalker/tzaangor/cultist treatment and requiring one Custodian infantry unit per SOS squad. Just to prevent HQ+SOS+dreads/tanks lists.
That would be nice and logical, yes.
On my side, I hope they hit the FW with a nerf hammer. Not only I am sick of seeing pile of cherrypicked OP recasts completely replacing plastic models that are supposed to be actual core of the army, most of FW range is just pointlessly duplicating plastics, only with vastly uglier models (that are being made even worse by gak, fluff breaking FW paint jobs).
Or just do logical thing and remove duplication, the FW models are now just closest GW equivalent, much like 'relic terminators' in SM range. Do we really need 2 kinds of lance bikes and termies? The only exception I'd make is rifle custodes, make a plastic upgrade sprue (or new kit) building these because it's the only thing in FW range that actually offers something new and isn't horribly broken.
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2021/10/31 14:10:45
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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I would kill for a plastic Galatus/Achillus dreadnought plastic double kit.
The vehicles TBH I don't care about. I play custodes to play infantry+dreadnoughts just like I play marines for.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2021/10/31 15:01:18
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Irbis wrote:On my side, I hope they hit the FW with a nerf hammer. Not only I am sick of seeing pile of cherrypicked OP recasts completely replacing plastic models that are supposed to be actual core of the army, most of FW range is just pointlessly duplicating plastics, only with vastly uglier models (that are being made even worse by gak, fluff breaking FW paint jobs).
Or just do logical thing and remove duplication, the FW models are now just closest GW equivalent, much like 'relic terminators' in SM range. Do we really need 2 kinds of lance bikes and termies? The only exception I'd make is rifle custodes, make a plastic upgrade sprue (or new kit) building these because it's the only thing in FW range that actually offers something new and isn't horribly broken.
Here's hoping they tune the FW Custodes/ SoS stuff up to be even better, and add further options.
Seriously, Irbis, you need to speak to a professional regarding these FW issues you have.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2021/10/31 19:51:04
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Irbis wrote:
Technically termie box builds Captain in terminator armour (and the Aquila waving dude) so that's 2 more right there.
EightFoldPath wrote:Assuming this is happening. I think the ideal would be SOS being given the poxwalker/tzaangor/cultist treatment and requiring one Custodian infantry unit per SOS squad. Just to prevent HQ+SOS+dreads/tanks lists.
That would be nice and logical, yes.
On my side, I hope they hit the FW with a nerf hammer. Not only I am sick of seeing pile of cherrypicked OP recasts completely replacing plastic models that are supposed to be actual core of the army, most of FW range is just pointlessly duplicating plastics, only with vastly uglier models (that are being made even worse by gak, fluff breaking FW paint jobs).
Or just do logical thing and remove duplication, the FW models are now just closest GW equivalent, much like 'relic terminators' in SM range. Do we really need 2 kinds of lance bikes and termies? The only exception I'd make is rifle custodes, make a plastic upgrade sprue (or new kit) building these because it's the only thing in FW range that actually offers something new and isn't horribly broken.
the FW stuff has already got its 9th edition rules, in the FW compenidum. so far GW has only really made small changes to that book, normally adding in new faction wide rules (ie changing the FW Skitarii to Doctrina Imperitives), or adding new keywords in and brining shared weapon profiles into line (ie the flamer range boost). its highly likely that the custodes elements of that book will get similar treatment with just updated keywords.
and your right, you COULD build a shield cap form the termies, but that would leave you with a unit below min size so its unlikely they INTEND you to do that. i feel its more likely the new blade champ is the HQ and the allarus are the elite beatstick of the force, with the sisters filling out the troops.
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2021/10/31 20:25:48
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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I really cannot get into GSC as a faction in 40k, probably my least favourite overall (just personal taste, no logical reason for it), but Damn do they get some really characterful models. It makes me laugh at how bad some marine faces are yet this new GSC character has 2 outstanding head sculpts.
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2021/10/31 22:45:22
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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bullyboy wrote:I really cannot get into GSC as a faction in 40k, probably my least favourite overall (just personal taste, no logical reason for it), but Damn do they get some really characterful models. It makes me laugh at how bad some marine faces are yet this new GSC character has 2 outstanding head sculpts.
Apparently the one 'Eavy Metal staffer who can paint faces is only allowed to work on GSC or something.
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2021/11/01 02:28:36
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Aww man, while I'm not dead keen on the custard boys, I could deffo find a use for them. I really hope that maybe the low mini count might make this boxset cheaper, even if tfw Japan prices. Otherwise I love everything here, the gsc troops are a lovely kit, and I'd be happy to have another, the character is ace, and I keep on meaning to have an excuse to pick up some SOS. Also lmao at Irbis being mad at FW paint jobs, like dude, people can paint minis whatever colour they want, and the Citadel crew should absolutely show a broad range of colour schemes, I think it's a good thing. Chill out my man, they aren't even your little resin space men.
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2021/11/01 02:50:15
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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I think with the Blade Champion being revealed to use blade stances and nothing like Litanies, that kills that 4chan rumor?
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2021/11/01 06:33:01
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Speaking of the Emperor on the Golden Throne objective marker, there's no word on what terrain might be in the box is there?
Is that red building on the right new?
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2021/11/01 06:44:51
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Sector Fronteris buildings?.
For The Emperor, get hold of the Rogue Trader Lord Macragge on porta potty and paint him gold.
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2021/11/01 07:08:54
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Ain't nuthin' new in that pic. Here are my two.
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2021/11/01 08:20:05
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Powerful Ushbati
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Speaking of the Emperor on the Golden Throne objective marker, there's no word on what terrain might be in the box is there?
Is that red building on the right new?
I doubt the GSC/Chadstodes box will have terrain. Unless they said it did and I missed it?
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2021/11/01 08:42:12
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Ah must have been another 'blink and you'll miss it' release. Already OOP.
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2021/11/01 08:57:48
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Ah must have been another 'blink and you'll miss it' release. Already OOP.
Pretty much - both times it was released was as a Killzone box. Some FLGSs still have stock ( Wayland, for example).
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2021/11/01 15:12:30
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Article!
Shadow Throne will be available to pre-order next month, but while you wait for its glorious arrival, prepare your Terran uprising with a Start Collecting! Genestealer Cults set, or get ready to ruthlessly purge them from the Throneworld with a Custodian Guard Squad or two.
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2021/11/01 15:42:46
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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The saboteur seems quite useful, depending on points.
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2021/11/01 15:45:12
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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A single new unit for custodes is dissappointing, we could have used some more stuff
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2021/11/01 15:52:07
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Gargantuan Gargant
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I feel like that while the Blade Champion is versatile and has decent defensive stats (basically transhuman against hits rather than wound rolls), it's going to largely depend on his overall cost since his damage output is decent but not at a level where I think you'd take him since he's not mobile enough to be a consistent character or monster/vehicle hunter due being on foot and having to deal with all the -1D abilities flying about nowadays (outside of spending CP to deep strike him).
Also, really weird how they try making Ld11 for him to be a selling point somehow.
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2021/11/01 15:53:49
Subject: Re:Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Personal hot-take: I'm slightly irked that the Saboteur gets to use markers in the way that Incursors used to get to use their Haywire Mines. I bought an extra box of Incursors/Infiltrators specifically so my Incursor units could have a Haywire Mine equipped model--and a model to replace it when they used them. Now it's just a counter-charge reaction for some stupid reason on the Incursors, while the Saboteur gets the area denial aspect that I had really liked. Also, is it just me or is it weird that it is called a "Reductus Saboteur" when the AdMech have the "Ordo Reductor"? BrianDavion wrote:A single new unit for custodes is dissappointing, we could have used some more stuff
You also get the entire Sisters of Silence setup rolled in. And it sounds like there might be some unit size changes coming for both.
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2021/11/01 18:10:37
Subject: Shadowthrone: GSC vs Custodes in December (Box content revealed)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Can't help but giggle at seeing they felt the need to give the GSC character 3 separate defensive layers in an attempt to have it survive more then a second on the table top.
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