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There's always a sliver of hope it won't be a compltetly awful kit. Last year's Canoness actually had a lot of options, with several heads, two torsos and backpacks, and like 10 diffrent weapons in the box.

 Sacredroach wrote:
I love the "Department of Organized Leaks."

That sounds like a proactive corporate structure response to the Great Sewage Crisis of 2021 at GW HQ.

 Valkyrie wrote:
I'm more hoping they don't butcher the options for the Autarchs the same way they did with the Archons. Here's hoping we get more than just "swap one sword for another sword, and you have a choice of 2 pistols for a bloke with an inconceivable array of weapons and horrific wargear to choose from".

As a DE player, I'm hoping the same thing.

That way I can just jump ship.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
There's always a sliver of hope it won't be a compltetly awful kit. Last year's Canoness actually had a lot of options, with several heads, two torsos and backpacks, and like 10 diffrent weapons in the box.

A rarity in this day and age. For every Canoness type character mini theres a dozen more that provide no meaningful customization options that carry a rules impact (i.e. something other than a headswap or decorative detailing).

It's also disappointing if a new release has less options than before and suddenly your weapon's loadout turns into "Legends" territory.


Still, better to be optimistic than not. The Autarch with the Shard of Anaris certainly looks better than its current state.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
There's always a sliver of hope it won't be a compltetly awful kit. Last year's Canoness actually had a lot of options, with several heads, two torsos and backpacks, and like 10 diffrent weapons in the box.

The Canoness' weapon/combo options are a garbled hellscape though.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
There's always a sliver of hope it won't be a compltetly awful kit. Last year's Canoness actually had a lot of options, with several heads, two torsos and backpacks, and like 10 diffrent weapons in the box.

A rarity in this day and age. For every Canoness type character mini theres a dozen more that provide no meaningful customization options that carry a rules impact (i.e. something other than a headswap or decorative detailing).

This is one of the reasons why I wanted a Firstborn Captain instead of a Primaris one.

Twilight Pathways wrote:

Oh feth off.

Not you, Twilight Pathways - you're awesome! - but that rumour can feth right off.

We can't have another edition of Wave Serpents terrorising everyone with their near-invulnerability. This alone makes me doubt these rumours.

This could replace their current rules btw.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh feth off.

Not you, Twilight Pathways - you're awesome! - but that rumour can feth right off.

We can't have another edition of Wave Serpents terrorising everyone with their near-invulnerability. This alone makes me doubt these rumours.

It took you this long, HBMC?

More transhuman? That needs to stop.

If they’re in cover that’s not bad really. But their weapons mean they are generally being offensive and going to have to be moving. I would prefer they have 24” range weapons so their soft Eldar bodies aren’t so close to rapid firing weapons and charges. If you can include a warlock like a squad leader and give them some buffs that would be even better

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
More transhuman? That needs to stop.

Hey now it's clearly a high priority for GW to protect Storm Guardians from their natural predator, the lascannon.

It's just becoming the latest fad amongst the rules team as their get-out-of-writing-good-rules free card. Just give it transhuman, or some variant of it. One day it'll be like Mortal Wounds in Age of Sigmar - unavoidable and caused by everything.

If everything ends up with transhuman, then is anything transhuman?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
If everything ends up with transhuman, then is anything transhuman?

Society?

Next step would obviously be posthuman, then.

 Albertorius wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
If everything ends up with transhuman, then is anything transhuman?

Society?

Next step would obviously be posthuman, then.

Posthuman physiology (adeptus astartes) - 3cp, may only be wounded on natural 6's. Note: this rule will be handed out as a freebie in later books after people have finished complaining at marines.

Signed: James Workshop

Only Primaris Primaris Marines get that though.

Seriously though, I think these rumours are a giant troll. They started reasonable, but by mid-next week the leaker will "reveal" that all Aspect Warriors at T6 W4 with a 2+/2++ save.

And transhuman.

Indeed. Theirs a very apt sketch from Chewin’ The Fat, a Scottish comedy show, which I’m not allowed to share on Dakka.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Indeed. Theirs a very apt sketch from Chewin’ The Fat, a Scottish comedy show, which I’m not allowed to share on Dakka.

How is the sketch called to find it on Youtube?

I genuinely cannot say!

Perhaps try Chewing the fat I smell?

It's possible the 'transhuman' ability is one of the updated Warlock powers - Heal or whatever it is.

But 4+ saves are pretty likely given DE, -1AP on chainswords makes sense given how crappy a S3 melee unit is (as does 3 attacks).

Storm guardians that look like:

3+ 3+ 3 3 1 3 8 4+
Chainsword S- AP-1 D1

Isn't particularly powerful as a dedicated melee unit...

I imagine the melee aspects will look similar with better weapons and extra skills.

Given Banshee swords are +1S, I can see scorpion swords being +2 but -1AP, keeping them in a similar relative position to banshees.

Shuriken catapults at 18" is also not much of a buff now the standard marine carries a 30" bolt rifle and tau pulse rifles are 36" range now...

There's nothing in that rumour that seems particularly unbelievable to me assuming the TH is a psychic buff and not a default one (no idea why it would be a special rule they had).

There was a rumour that storm guardians also got a weapon platform but it had a field on it - maybe the TH ability comes from an energy field.

 Hellebore wrote:
It's possible the 'transhuman' ability is one of the updated Warlock powers - Heal or whatever it is.

But 4+ saves are pretty likely given DE, -1AP on chainswords makes sense given how crappy a S3 melee unit is (as does 3 attacks).

Storm guardians that look like:

3+ 3+ 3 3 1 3 8 4+
Chainsword S- AP-1 D1

Isn't particularly powerful as a dedicated melee unit...

I imagine the melee aspects will look similar with better weapons and extra skills.

Given Banshee swords are +1S, I can see scorpion swords being +2 but -1AP, keeping them in a similar relative position to banshees.

Shuriken catapults at 18" is also not much of a buff now the standard marine carries a 30" bolt rifle and tau pulse rifles are 36" range now...

There's nothing in that rumour that seems particularly unbelievable to me assuming the TH is a psychic buff and not a default one (no idea why it would be a special rule they had).

There was a rumour that storm guardians also got a weapon platform but it had a field on it - maybe the TH ability comes from an energy field.

I agree with this, it feels like a "wtfomgbbq" moment because it's a big leap from where guardians are now but if people want them to become relevant and worth an inevitable 9/10 ppm price tag, these changes seem about right.

Just tell me what warp hunters and D cannons will look like. I need to know.

Storm Guardians getting a watered down Transhuman is...strange. I was hoping they'd at least make it more Eldar specific and make it Hit related like "This model can only be hit on a roll of 1-3.

 The Red Hobbit wrote:
Storm Guardians getting a watered down Transhuman is...strange. I was hoping they'd at least make it more Eldar specific and make it Hit related like "This model can only be hit on a roll of 1-3.

...on a 4-6, surely?

 Dysartes wrote:

 The Red Hobbit wrote:
Storm Guardians getting a watered down Transhuman is...strange. I was hoping they'd at least make it more Eldar specific and make it Hit related like "This model can only be hit on a roll of 1-3.

...on a 4-6, surely?

I mean.
An unit against which bonuses to hit provide the opposite effect would be a... very interesting concept?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 The Red Hobbit wrote:
Storm Guardians getting a watered down Transhuman is...strange. I was hoping they'd at least make it more Eldar specific and make it Hit related like "This model can only be hit on a roll of 1-3.

...on a 4-6, surely?

I mean.
An unit against which bonuses to hit provide the opposite effect would be a... very interesting concept?

OooooooOOOOOO......

“Ok, well, I rolled 3 ones, so I hit you three times”
“Aren’t you in range of your chapter master? You’ll need to re-roll those ones...”

I’ll be honest...I don’t hate it. It makes it seem like they’re so fast you’re more likely to hit them through dumb luck rather than taking careful aim which kinda fits I think!

What’s our next little could-be tidbit for everyone to beat each other up about going to be?

 Tiberius501 wrote:
What’s our next little could-be tidbit for everyone to beat each other up about going to be?

T6 W4 2+/2++ Aspect Warriors. I already said so.