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I'd guess for the Craftworld

Rangers - £32.5 - 35
Autarch £20 - 25
Ranger Bikes £45

With the Chaos being likely comparable in price. So you're looking at just over £100 for each force.

I'm excited for a new Eldar box, but I just don't think this one has miniatures that I'm interested in enough to purchase. I have Eldar and Iron Warriors but only want the characters. I have enough Rangers, and although I like the shroudrunners, just not sure I'll use them. As for chaos, I already hav models I can use as chosen and don't like the forgefiend.
With wanting the Avatar, spears, maugan ra and reapers, plus the codex, I think I'll wait.

How much long do we have to wait to get stuff from te box set individually?

Sprue pics up on B&C.

Autarch has 3 head options (2x helmet, 1x topknot), but looking at the size/layout
of the sprue, I have my doubts we'll ever see him in a blister/clampack..

Old-Four-Arms wrote:
Sprue pics up on B&C.

Autarch has 3 head options (2x helmet, 1x topknot), but looking at the size/layout
of the sprue, I have my doubts we'll ever see him in a blister/clampack..

B&C has a picture of a standalone autarch box.

Aye, didn't watch the Autarch video before posting..

Old-Four-Arms wrote:
Sprue pics up on B&C.

Autarch has 3 head options (2x helmet, 1x topknot), but looking at the size/layout
of the sprue, I have my doubts we'll ever see him in a blister/clampack..

Looks like they literally took JG designs and turned them into plastic.

The third head is the same as the other old autarch model.

This model is basically those two autarchs combined with some extra guns.

 Hellebore wrote:

Old-Four-Arms wrote:
Sprue pics up on B&C.

Autarch has 3 head options (2x helmet, 1x topknot), but looking at the size/layout
of the sprue, I have my doubts we'll ever see him in a blister/clampack..

The third head is the same as the other old autarch model.

Not quite. The second helmeted head option is a combination of these two helmets. It combines the crest of the one on the left, with the face and chin of the one on the right. Note the lack of mandiblasters on the new helmet. The current kit with the wings has the mandiblaster helmet now.

General Hobbs wrote:


How much long do we have to wait to get stuff from te box set individually?

About 3-6 months. They'll probably be the 2nd wave after the Codex, Guardians, Warlocks, Avatar and Reapers.

How much was the box with Jain Zar and the Banshees?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How much was the box with Jain Zar and the Banshees?

140£ I think.

 Sotahullu wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How much was the box with Jain Zar and the Banshees?

140£ I think.

Why are people speculating that this will be less than that?

 Arschbombe wrote:

 Hellebore wrote:

Old-Four-Arms wrote:
Sprue pics up on B&C.

Autarch has 3 head options (2x helmet, 1x topknot), but looking at the size/layout
of the sprue, I have my doubts we'll ever see him in a blister/clampack..

The third head is the same as the other old autarch model.

Not quite. The second helmeted head option is a combination of these two helmets. It combines the crest of the one on the left, with the face and chin of the one on the right. Note the lack of mandiblasters on the new helmet. The current kit with the wings has the mandiblaster helmet now.

Yeah the existing one has taken the mandiblasters. I didn't notice this new head has the chin though.

It's probably because the topknot model was a limited edition boxed army exclusive iirc. And because they'd already added the mandiblaster to the hawk helmet they mixed a bit of that one in.

It does seem though that they're literally taking every design JG made and using them. He does 3 variant head designs for autarchs and they end up in the autarch sprue.

They have hybridized the Autarch helmets more compared to before.

Before it was mostly just a single Aspect in each helmet:
1) Limited edition Dire Avenger style helmet with topknot and Egyptian style false chin beard.
2) Scorpion style (the rearing crest looks stylistically like a scorpion tail) with mandiblasters
3) Banshee mask with double sided haired crest so possibly a hybrid with Dire Avengers, or maybe the crest is meant to represent Banshee style false hair

Now this new kit's helmet versions seem to be:
1) Scorpion crest but now with false chin beard
2) Banshee mask with double sided haired crest so basically a repeat of the previous 3)
3) The other Autarch kit has a Dire Avenger plumed crest with mandiblasters


This makes it a bit weird then in terms of background as the Autarch supposedly took with them one piece of wargear after finishing their time with an Aspect. So it would make sense then for a Scorpion to finish their time and take up the use of a Scorpion themed mandiblaster Autarch helmet. But now if all the Scorpion options seem to have been hybridized with Dire Avenger, does it meant have to do a Dire Avenger Aspect first as well before they can use an Autarch helmet with mandiblasters (or the Scorpion style crest with Dire Avenger chin beard)?

It probably just reflects multiple aspects. First up we know that whilst a lot of the armours are ancient, they do have various phases of design. I think only the Phoenix Lord armour is almost one of a kind; the rest can vary here and there between worlds and such.

Another is that the likely modify the armour if they keep it with them. Reflecting their various paths connecting and intersecting and crossing over.



Sometimes we have to recall that the lore we get is often somewhat flexible and that some early lore can be a very "pure" strain of lore. Ergo the "idealised" concept, but when you get down to individuals and specific craftworlds and the passing of time; you see that the simple "rule" is very adapted and varied.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Sotahullu wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How much was the box with Jain Zar and the Banshees?

140£ I think.

Why are people speculating that this will be less than that?

Blood of the Phoenix? That was a much larger set.

 Overread wrote:
It probably just reflects multiple aspects. First up we know that whilst a lot of the armours are ancient, they do have various phases of design. I think only the Phoenix Lord armour is almost one of a kind; the rest can vary here and there between worlds and such.

Another is that the likely modify the armour if they keep it with them. Reflecting their various paths connecting and intersecting and crossing over.



Sometimes we have to recall that the lore we get is often somewhat flexible and that some early lore can be a very "pure" strain of lore. Ergo the "idealised" concept, but when you get down to individuals and specific craftworlds and the passing of time; you see that the simple "rule" is very adapted and varied.

Like the old and new Scorpion super-heavy tank designs. Per the lore released with the new one? Literally a fashion trend. Bonesingers make them to the favoured aesthetic of their Craftworld, because they can.

SamusDrake wrote:
Blood of the Phoenix? That was a much larger set.

Does that matter?

The Ghaz/Ragnar one had next to nothing in it, and I don't remember it being much cheaper than the others.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Blood of the Phoenix? That was a much larger set.

Does that matter?

The Ghaz/Ragnar one had next to nothing in it, and I don't remember it being much cheaper than the others.

Its the only one so far thats been that expensive, and was released back in late 2019.

Iracundus wrote:

This makes it a bit weird then in terms of background as the Autarch supposedly took with them one piece of wargear after finishing their time with an Aspect. So it would make sense then for a Scorpion to finish their time and take up the use of a Scorpion themed mandiblaster Autarch helmet. But now if all the Scorpion options seem to have been hybridized with Dire Avenger, does it meant have to do a Dire Avenger Aspect first as well before they can use an Autarch helmet with mandiblasters (or the Scorpion style crest with Dire Avenger chin beard)?

Well I would take the mandiblaster as an item by itself, rather than the helmet it was attached to. Similarly the dark reaper range finders and the banshee mask.

So when they leave they take one of those face weapons/devices and have it built into their autarch helm, which itself may or may not have design flourishes from one or more shrines they trained in.

If we break each shrine down, they have the following unique components:

banshees - banshee blade and mask
scorpions - mandiblaster and scorpion chainsword
Dragons - dragon fusion gun
spiders - jump generator, deathspinner
hawks - wings, lasblaster, grenade harness
spears - lance, jetbike
reapers- rangefinder, reaper launcher
Avengers - dire catapult
crimson hunter - big ol jet...


If we include the legends autarch on jetbike and we assume the sword on the winged autarch will be called a banshee blade (it might not be), then the only items not available to an autarch are:

grenade harness
rangefinder
lasblaster
big ol jet
dire catapult

Which isn't bad really.

Maybe when they finally redo the autarch on jetbike it will have a laser lance, grenade harness, dire catapult, lasblaster and range finder on the sprue.... ? :p

Having them being able to take a big ol jet is probably no better than an exarch in jet, so maybe counts as?


I've done a conversion of an autarch in command war walker, because why not...

I saw that the eldar/chaos box is up for preorder next weekend, but there wasn't any mention of price. Has that been leaked yet?

No, not yet. Price info doesn't normally escape into the wild until Mon/Tues.

 Togusa wrote:
I saw that the eldar/chaos box is up for preorder next weekend, but there wasn't any mention of price. Has that been leaked yet?

Should be confirmed later today. The last few battle boxes have been £105 though.

 xttz wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
I saw that the eldar/chaos box is up for preorder next weekend, but there wasn't any mention of price. Has that been leaked yet?

Should be confirmed later today. The last few battle boxes have been £105 though.

Thanks for letting me know. I am a bit worried because I really would like this box (I play both armies and actually am in the market for the forgefiend as well as everything else) but I'm worried because the BT box had half the number of models but was nearly 250$ if memory serves.

Eldritch Omens is £125

 Matrindur wrote:


Eldritch Omens is £125

Thanks! That's not too bad.

Also, what's up with a ton of the plastic Aeldari kits being listed as 'Sold Out Online." Windriders, Wraithguardm Warlock/Farseer Skyrunners, Dire Avengers, and Wraithlords are all gone? I mean aside from the Dire Avengers, all those other kits are post 6th Edition, this is really weird.

Just the usual reboxing to match 9th box style. Happens with every release, nothing weird about it.

Radium wrote:
Just the usual reboxing to match 9th box style. Happens with every release, nothing weird about it.

If only the multi-hundred-million-dollar-company that is GW could figure out some possible way to not have their online store bug out horribly every single time they rebox anything, and cause mass confusion, or at least smack a banner that says "we're reboxing stuff so they might temporairly mistakenly show up as Sold Out Line" on their website... but alas, clearly, that is impossible with 21st century technology.

Radium wrote:
Just the usual reboxing to match 9th box style. Happens with every release, nothing weird about it.

Okay, good that makes more sense to me!

So 200-210 USD for that box.