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 Galef wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 vipoid wrote:
By the way, remember when GW was extolling about the new Autarch kit being compatible with other ones?

Apparently they've since changed the article so that it no longer mentions using the Dragon Fusion Gun with Swooping Hawk Wings.

Just for anyone who was hoping the Codex autarch would have different rules to the one in the box set.

Grrrr.

How hard would it be to just say “take a shooty toy and a stabby toy, with an optional movement toy”. Go crazy with freedom.

From a game play POV does it mater if you have wings or a jump pack when moving close enout to fusion blast something? They do the same job, just with different flavor.

Yeah I'm really annoyed at the Autarchs lack of customization especially since now there is existing plastic to mix-n-max. Heck, you can even use a Shining Spear Exarch and both the Plastic Autarch to mix-and-match a Skyrunner.

To think GW is missing out on an opportunity to make us buy 2-3 lots just for 1 model.

It gets worse when you realize that Marine Captains and Chaos Lords (the equivalents to Autarchs) still get all their toys.
And it's yet still worse when you notice all the newer HQs being released have very few options (meaning it's less likely Autarchs will get there flexibility back)

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What if. What if you just ignored the rule as written and paired them anyway? Aside from tournaments, I doubt too many people would actually mind.


Also, I cannot find any of the Ynarri characters or the Avatar on the GW webstore. Where are they?

The Triumvirate of Ynnead box appears to have been taken offline - this would appear to indicate a reboxing, though whether that is still as a 3-in-1 effort, or as three separate boxes is currently unknown.

 Dysartes wrote:
The Triumvirate of Ynnead box appears to have been taken offline - this would appear to indicate a reboxing, though whether that is still as a 3-in-1 effort, or as three separate boxes is currently unknown.

Oh wow, I thought they were already available separately.

 Dysartes wrote:
The Triumvirate of Ynnead box appears to have been taken offline - this would appear to indicate a reboxing, though whether that is still as a 3-in-1 effort, or as three separate boxes is currently unknown.

So has the genestealer coven....

 Togusa wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
The Triumvirate of Ynnead box appears to have been taken offline - this would appear to indicate a reboxing, though whether that is still as a 3-in-1 effort, or as three separate boxes is currently unknown.

Oh wow, I thought they were already available separately.

Unfortunately not. I've been waiting for that as I considered buying another kitty cat (and get a free space elf witch in the process, I guess ). But GW sure is taking its time with this triumvirate...

Khahandran wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/18/put-the-fear-of-death-into-your-opponents-with-the-stronger-faster-yncarne

Bit of info on Yncarne. Interestingly, it seems like both Avatars can be taken at the same time now.

That's interesting so we could field the Avatar of Khaine and Yncarne at the same time? If so that would be a fun tag-team against my friend's crusher stampede list.

Looks like when you take an exarch power, they become a veteran exarch and get extra stats. Which goes some way to making up for them being sergeants.

Bunch of stuff (Iyanden, Saim-Hann, Eldritch Storm, Reapers, Shining Spears)

You missed Alaitoc.

Thanks ! Now all that's missing is Ulthwé and Biel-Tan right ?

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:
Thanks ! Now all that's missing is Ulthwé and Biel-Tan right ?

Here's Ulthwe:

Saim-Hann and Ulthwe looking like solid choices. Alaitoc looks decent. Iyanden is meh as always, though the debuff on AP is nice with the -1 dmg the wraith constructs get.

Saving the best till last:

Oh Iyanden, still pushing the morale trait. The psytronome looks useful, however.

Looking forward to the codex release and just sitting down with the book to absorb it all.

Are we seriously up to four-part subfaction rules?


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I'm amused by Saim-Hann, just for the ghosts of White Scars.
Bikes? We don't need bikes!
Our heavy stuff can pull this off. [Red Wraithguard and wraithlord charges for the win]

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Saving the best till last:

Spoiler:

Is the Autarch even a legal build? The mandiblaster helmet's from the older Autarch kit and I'm not familiar enough with the new rules to know if that's a legal load out.

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 DreadfullyHopeful wrote:
Thanks ! Now all that's missing is Ulthwé and Biel-Tan right ?

Here's Ulthwe:

Spoiler:

Bruh that's FOUR fething parts. WTF

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Saving the best till last:

Spoiler:

Is the Autarch even a legal build? The mandiblaster helmet's from the older Autarch kit and I'm not familiar enough with the new rules to know if that's a legal load out.

If the rules are as the Eldritch Omens set, no it isn't legal. You could only get the mandiblaster helmet as part of a swap that also exchanged for Banshee blade and wings. It was all or nothing.

If the Codex really has no change, then it is pants on head stupidity to basically make interchangeability then make it illegal to use it. You would have to wonder how it made it past Marketing or other management.

My theory with the whole autarch nonsense is that GW is afraid people will just buy third party bits instead of buying the two kits needed for the load out. God forbid we have customization.

I guess GW could solve that issue and release both autarchs in one set, but that would be pricey and such a dumb fix for a problem that shouldn't exist

Is it possible that the picture is of a striking scorpion (either a new aesthetic or exarch)? Isn't that the scorpion marking on his chest plate?

If the Codex entry doesn't allow mixing of weaponry, then the Autarch on the front cover is illegal, let alone the picture posted above.

 GaroRobe wrote:
My theory with the whole autarch nonsense is that GW is afraid people will just buy third party bits instead of buying the two kits needed for the load out. God forbid we have customization.

I guess GW could solve that issue and release both autarchs in one set, but that would be pricey and such a dumb fix for a problem that shouldn't exist

Then why design and tout the customizability? That is what is dumb. To design a feature, make art showing it, play up a feature in the hype only for the rules people to then not allow that feature to be used. It is shooting your own product feature down, and I'm surprised Marketing or other bean counting people would have let such a thing through because it would impact sales.

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Is it possible that the picture is of a striking scorpion (either a new aesthetic or exarch)? Isn't that the scorpion marking on his chest plate?

It could be, as it has the blade and helmet. But scorpion helmets have dreads (this one missing them isn't a dealbreaker). The fanes(?) on the back of the armor aren't something scorpions have though. That's more like a guardian or autarch kind of thing.

It's an Autarch - that picture isn't new, it's in the current Eldar codex.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
It's an Autarch - that picture isn't new, it's in the current Eldar codex.

Almost all the past artwork of the Autarch would be invalidated (along with the latest Codex cover art) if there is no weapon swapping allowed.

I love that we just got big reveals on craftworld traits and their accompanying strategems, warlord traits, and relics......and everyone is too busy debating whether or not a piece of art is a legal load out for an Autarch

Whoever came up with/and or is enforcing the stringent adherence to limiting customisation options for characters simply because the specific model doesn't have said options in their kit needs to be slapped.

Converting and making your character unique is supposed to be a critical element of the hobby (and one I have no interest in giving up). I would also wager that more players would convert with the available Games Workshop kits rather than seeking out 3rd party alternatives. Just shooting thereselves in the foot and pissing off players for no good reason.

In other news I love those Biel-Tan rules and can't wait to try them out on the tabletop alongside my new beefy Avatar of Khaine.

Picked up today's White Dwarf with the Altansar rules, very happy! I am a bit curious why this couldn't have been put into the codex. It's only a few pages, can't see it making much of a difference for the codex print copies.

 Togusa wrote:
Picked up today's White Dwarf with the Altansar rules, very happy! I am a bit curious why this couldn't have been put into the codex. It's only a few pages, can't see it making much of a difference for the codex print copies.

That's a bit like asking "why that skin wasn't included" with the original release of the videogame...

 l0k1 wrote:
I love that we just got big reveals on craftworld traits and their accompanying strategems, warlord traits, and relics......and everyone is too busy debating whether or not a piece of art is a legal load out for an Autarch

That's not what's being discussed at all.