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 krijthebold wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Thousand Sons make up literally less than a quarter of their own Combat Patrol.

Absolutely laughable.

True, but I like Tzaangors so it's great for me!

And maybe just me.

Aye, get whatever you like if it makes you happy.

It's just that the last 3 or 4 boxes with TSons in them were mostly Tzaangors.

Oh, for certain, it's definitely an odd choice overall. Not a single Rubric Marine?

Just strange.

The Tau one is pretty meh imho, an Ethereal AND a Fireblade? Ghostkeels might be nice for somebody that doesnt have one yet but I dont think many people run more than one.

It's weird, because my default assumption with combat patrols and other boxes is that GW really tries to make them a good value, if you buy only one. The tau one definitely hits that sweet spot, as nobody with a current tau army needs more ethereals, but some of the other boxes really avoid that. Custodes is literally just four kits (guard, bikes, 2x Sisters of silence). GSC is four troop kits, a goliath, and a cheap character. very tasty.

For somebody just beginning, the Tau box has a nice assortment, and is visually striking. The GSC is pretty great...I can see my friend picking one of them up soon. Personally I want a coupe of the AC boxes as a) I love the Silent Sisters and b) I need more bikes.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yo! That GSC box is incredible! Ah man… I need to save for the new Eldar but… that is a great box to start GSC too. Oof, 2022 starts off with an expensive bang.

Yeah, what's interesting is that it's one of the few CP boxes you could easily pick up multiples for and still have a good army composition. Plus it shouldn't be hard to convert the spare Magus into a saboteur or some other character.

MoD_Legion wrote:
The Tau one is pretty meh imho, an Ethereal AND a Fireblade? Ghostkeels might be nice for somebody that doesnt have one yet but I dont think many people run more than one.

The obvious CP was Commander, Crisis Team, Strike team, but that would basically stop all sales of those three kits otherwise....

Seems the Custodes and GC ones being good was an exception rather than the new rule then.

The GSC box is really good, and I like the models so much I don't mind duplicates of stuff I don't even need. Thousand Sons is ok, last edition I was looking for ways to get more Tzangoors, not quite so necessary to have as many now though.

The Thousand Sons box that's 75% beastmen is pants on head slowed for sure.

The Tau one is great. Except for that Ethereal. But I mean, at least it's not a bunch of Kroot?

 krijthebold wrote:
Oh, for certain, it's definitely an odd choice overall. Not a single Rubric Marine?

Just strange.

Is that even fieldable? I thought there was a minimum of 'can't take tzaangors unless you have 1 marine unit for each tzaangor unit?'


I'm not really impressed with anything but the GSC. They all seem overspecialized with niche units. Or just tiny for the Grey Knights

Voss wrote:

 krijthebold wrote:
Oh, for certain, it's definitely an odd choice overall. Not a single Rubric Marine?

Just strange.

Is that even fieldable? I thought there was a minimum of 'can't take tzaangors unless you have 1 marine unit for each tzaangor unit?'

I believe they removed that restriction in 9th

The rule was added in 9th where it caused a load of whinging and it's not specifically Rubrics, it's <Infernal Astartes> or something similar.
So if you had an Exalted Sorcerer, a unit of Rubrics, and a unit of Scarab Occult then you could also field 3 units of Tzaangor and 3 units of Cultists.

 The Phazer wrote:
Seems the Custodes and GC ones being good was an exception rather than the new rule then.

What?

Custodes one is IMO bad, over 50% of the box are Sisters (that, thanks to new restrictions aren't needed in such numbers) and GW cheapened out and didn't include even a single HQ. If that box had one (or, ideally, that Custode & Sister HQ pack), or hell, doubled just one custode sprue so you could make generic commander from it without reducing troop model count (watch 10th edition adopt AoS rigid unit numbers to force you to buy more boxes), I'd buy multiples. Now, I wonder if I should even bother, grabbing it will just reward GW Scrooge tendencies.

I can see the box maybe being OK if you have Sisters of Battle army as then you can convert excess SoS to characters or fancy veterans using spare helmets/bits, but otherwise, I wouldn't bother.

I like the Tau box because I have a fancy for the Stealth side of the faction. Wouldn't have been right at all for a patrol, but if it had Commander Shadowsun and some Pathfinders I'd have gone for it.

 krijthebold wrote:
Oh, for certain, it's definitely an odd choice overall. Not a single Rubric Marine?

Just strange.

Especially because they neutered our poor Goat-bird boys in 40k
Still I'll pick the box up for my cult of Transient Form horde !

Forgive me if this has already been answered, but these contents are not "new", correct? They are the sample Combat Patrols shown in the codices for each army? Referencing the Thousand Sons one with the codex shows it is the exact composition of the same Combat Patrol and matches the text in the codex that one can purchase this Combat Patrol.

Voss wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
If GW is gonna squat anyone it's the Nids, they haven't gotten a single release for 8 years straight, and there doesn't seem to be any mention of new Nids in either the Rumour Engine or the Leaks

There are several unsolved Nid bits in the rumor engine

There are at least three separate Tyranid bits in the rumor engine photos going back to very early 2021/late 2020. A new Tyranid model was showcased in the New Year, New Models video last week. The most recent rules update they received made them quite playable on the tabletop and they've recently featured in several campaign stories going back to Blood of Baal. I doubt any factions will be leaving 40K anytime soon. In fact, I reckon you'll be seeing older MIA factions returning to the game in the next few years.

 judgedoug wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been answered, but these contents are not "new", correct?

Tau one is new, GSC & Custodes leaked a few days ago.

 Irbis wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
Seems the Custodes and GC ones being good was an exception rather than the new rule then.

What?

Custodes one is IMO bad, over 50% of the box are Sisters (that, thanks to new restrictions aren't needed in such numbers) and GW cheapened out and didn't include even a single HQ. If that box had one (or, ideally, that Custode & Sister HQ pack), or hell, doubled just one custode sprue so you could make generic commander from it without reducing troop model count (watch 10th edition adopt AoS rigid unit numbers to force you to buy more boxes), I'd buy multiples. Now, I wonder if I should even bother, grabbing it will just reward GW Scrooge tendencies.

I can see the box maybe being OK if you have Sisters of Battle army as then you can convert excess SoS to characters or fancy veterans using spare helmets/bits, but otherwise, I wouldn't bother.

There are two HQ choices in the Custodes box. Custodes HQ are built from their base kits. One of the Bikers can be a shield Captain, and one of the Guardian can as well with two different configurations for the Guardian (Sword/Shield or Spear)

beast_gts wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been answered, but these contents are not "new", correct?

Tau one is new, GSC & Custodes leaked a few days ago.

I think he may mean are the models new. Which they're not.

Orks did have new models when they first got their combat patrol. And AOS has a wight king only available in the CP.

 GaroRobe wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been answered, but these contents are not "new", correct?

Tau one is new, GSC & Custodes leaked a few days ago.

I think he may mean are the models new. Which they're not.

No, I meant we already knew the contents based on the Thousand Sons and Grey Knights codices, and yeah, the images from the GSC and Custodes codex review copies.

 Togusa wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
Seems the Custodes and GC ones being good was an exception rather than the new rule then.

What?

Custodes one is IMO bad, over 50% of the box are Sisters (that, thanks to new restrictions aren't needed in such numbers) and GW cheapened out and didn't include even a single HQ. If that box had one (or, ideally, that Custode & Sister HQ pack), or hell, doubled just one custode sprue so you could make generic commander from it without reducing troop model count (watch 10th edition adopt AoS rigid unit numbers to force you to buy more boxes), I'd buy multiples. Now, I wonder if I should even bother, grabbing it will just reward GW Scrooge tendencies.

I can see the box maybe being OK if you have Sisters of Battle army as then you can convert excess SoS to characters or fancy veterans using spare helmets/bits, but otherwise, I wouldn't bother.

There are two HQ choices in the Custodes box. Custodes HQ are built from their base kits. One of the Bikers can be a shield Captain, and one of the Guardian can as well with two different configurations for the Guardian (Sword/Shield or Spear)

If you include dedicated HQs, people will whine that GW put them in to demotivate multiple buying...cant do it right

The Tau Combat Patrol seems really weird to me being so stealth heavy. I thought for sure it would be the Start Collecting with something extra like a Devilfish.

That GSC box ticks all the boxes for me. Will be getting one this year no doubt! I just hope the upcoming WD KillTeam rules will have as diverse set of datasheets for em as possible

Custodes box could be great for multiples, even, depending on SoS being good or bad.

Worst case it's just a good starter box to build on, which is kind of what these are supposed to be anyway. . .

Quasistellar wrote:
Custodes box could be great for multiples, even, depending on SoS being good or bad.

I dunno. I think the Custodes box suffers from the same failings as the Death Guard and Thousand Sons boxes in that they contain so many models that aren't Custodes/Death Guard/Thousand Sons.

If it'd been 3 Allarus Termies in place of 5 of the Sisters, but right now over half the box in the Adeptus Custodes box are things that are not Adeptus Custodes models.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Quasistellar wrote:
Custodes box could be great for multiples, even, depending on SoS being good or bad.

I dunno. I think the Custodes box suffers from the same failings as the Death Guard and Thousand Sons boxes in that they contain so many models that aren't Custodes/Death Guard/Thousand Sons.

If it'd been 3 Allarus Termies in place of 5 of the Sisters, but right now over half the box in the Adeptus Custodes box are things that are not Adeptus Custodes models.

Yeah replacing one sister kit for something Custodes would be better for the box, specifically multiple buy. Same for the TS one. Replace a box of Tzaangor for a Rubric box and you get a more interesting CP that you can more easily buy 2 or 3 of.

The only thing with the Custodes one is that you can already get like 800pts out of the box as-is, swapping one sister kit for anything else could bring it to a full 1k army It's probably the best value out of any box right now (point-wise), and the 2 sister box was probably to lower the value of the box!

Tau surely looked bizarre to me. It is great, but is weird to have both a Fireblade and Ethereal at the same time for a starter kit. But having both stealth suits? I mean, I expected Crisis and something like a Devilfish, or a Broadside, but then again, that would've been too perfect, I guess, and I have seen individual Crisis teams collecting dust at the back of the shelves on the stores because why would you want to buy Fire Warriors ot Crisis teams on their own with the SC!?

Anyway, at least every single Battleforce they give them every other year have at the very least one Crisis team, so.

The stealth suits are extremely weird and definitively don't fit a theme. I don't really have experience with heavy stealth lists.

The CP is a great purchase as it is, pretty much an insta buy for any new player, maybe even two, but I just don't want more Ethereals, more when I'm playing Enclaves.