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 Breotan wrote:
It's odd that the grav mechanics look like half a bike wheel bolted on upside down by an Ork.

I think I'll have to do a little bit of conversion work there.

It is really weird that the grav thrusters look exactly like wheels. To much of a transformers look.

Glad the Squats are getting bikes and the long coat is a nice throwback. I even think I understand why they're moving toward a 30k aesthetic in some ways, but still not impressed by the overall design.

What’s funny to me is how much of the bikes internal stuff is recycled mechanics from some of the ork buggies

 Some_Call_Me_Tim wrote:
What’s funny to me is how much of the bikes internal stuff is recycled mechanics from some of the ork buggies

I've seen this sort of thing mentioned a few times but I don't get it, what do you mean?

KillerAngel wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I shudder to think what would happen to that poor girl's wrist when she actually fires that thing.

That thing isn't a handgun, it is a shotgun.
Which means it's going to have a lot of recoil.

So unless she's actually a T-800, she's going to lose that arm.

Shot many shotguns have you? A normal real-life hummie can shoot a 12ga shotgun one handed just fine (Youtube is full of examples). Comfortable? No. Effective? No. Doable? Yes. Plus, felt recoil is proportional to weapon weight, and this weapon looks decently heavy.

This is a sci-fi universe after all. Don't overthink it.

I did, actually, and I wouldn't want to one hand it.
Then again, it was a hunting shotgun.

Also, you are aware that she's supposed to be in battle? You sort of want to be able to use a weapon effectively when you're getting shot at.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 Some_Call_Me_Tim wrote:
What’s funny to me is how much of the bikes internal stuff is recycled mechanics from some of the ork buggies

I've seen this sort of thing mentioned a few times but I don't get it, what do you mean?

Since they use a 3d design thing, it’s very easy to just reuse elements used on other 3d designed models. As such, the suspensions from ork buggies were used in this, which is kinda funny, meaning orks are using old age stc tech, or stc’s are very bad.

 Some_Call_Me_Tim wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 Some_Call_Me_Tim wrote:
What’s funny to me is how much of the bikes internal stuff is recycled mechanics from some of the ork buggies

I've seen this sort of thing mentioned a few times but I don't get it, what do you mean?

Since they use a 3d design thing, it’s very easy to just reuse elements used on other 3d designed models. As such, the suspensions from ork buggies were used in this, which is kinda funny, meaning orks are using old age stc tech, or stc’s are very bad.

Having a quick look at the various ork buggies, I can't tell which suspensions you're referring to specifically.

 Some_Call_Me_Tim wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 Some_Call_Me_Tim wrote:
What’s funny to me is how much of the bikes internal stuff is recycled mechanics from some of the ork buggies

I've seen this sort of thing mentioned a few times but I don't get it, what do you mean?

Since they use a 3d design thing, it’s very easy to just reuse elements used on other 3d designed models. As such, the suspensions from ork buggies were used in this, which is kinda funny, meaning orks are using old age stc tech, or stc’s are very bad.

Or form follows function? No need to reinvent the grav disc after all.

It looks as if there's might be empty space where the ankle should be on the Hernkyn (it doesn't seem to connect to their leg properly) with it covered over by their clothing. Either that Hernkyn has cybernetic feet after all, or for some strange reason they're putting boots on mechanical parts.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:


It looks as if there's might be empty space where the ankle should be on the Hernkyn (it doesn't seem to connect to their leg properly) with it covered over by their clothing. Either that Hernkyn has cybernetic feet after all, or for some strange reason they're putting boots on mechanical parts.

I'd like to get the physical model in-hand before making any rulings on it. These might not be the true final models. It wouldn't be the first time GW used a preproduction model in promo pics. It might have gotten tweeked before mass production. Heck, it may not even be assembled correctly, which has popped up in some promo pics too.

With but a few tweaks...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
With but a few tweaks...

That does look better in some ways, although it's now more of a Space tractor than a Space Street Sweeper.

A helmet and beard for the pilot is definitely an improvement, it's a shame that the miniatures probably won't be able to have beards like that without significant changes. Just a baffling design choice to have armour for Space Dwarfs that doesn't would block a big beard.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
With but a few tweaks...

Heck yeah!

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Also, you are aware that she's supposed to be in battle? You sort of want to be able to use a weapon effectively when you're getting shot at.

I said don't overthink it! I'm sure Squat physiology is more than capable of using a fictional shotgun effectively one handed.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
With but a few tweaks...

Have to be honest, I prefer the GW model. Not that that would be a bad conversion, mind.

KillerAngel wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Also, you are aware that she's supposed to be in battle? You sort of want to be able to use a weapon effectively when you're getting shot at.

I said don't overthink it! I'm sure Squat physiology is more than capable of using a fictional shotgun effectively one handed.

Wasn't the example statline for the line trooper S4, T4? I imagine those physical aspects would help with wielding such a weapon one-handed.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
With but a few tweaks...

Ah, much better. Lose the coat and put the blanket-roll somewhere where it isn't blocking the bloody headlight! and I might even pay for one.

Think that looks better actually! I would be very surprised if there aren't conversion kits on Etsy within weeks of this going on sale.

There are wheel kits for the Taurox. There are fuselage kits for the Chibi-Hawk. There are enclosed cockpit kits for the Invictor Warsuit.

I am more than certain there will be wheel kits for the new Squat hover bikes.

Conversion kits?
There will be full models with wheels for halve the price ready on release day

 Dysartes wrote:

KillerAngel wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Also, you are aware that she's supposed to be in battle? You sort of want to be able to use a weapon effectively when you're getting shot at.

I said don't overthink it! I'm sure Squat physiology is more than capable of using a fictional shotgun effectively one handed.

Wasn't the example statline for the line trooper S4, T4? I imagine those physical aspects would help with wielding such a weapon one-handed.

Marines are S4 and can bend iron bars. I figure recoil isn't that big issue with such a strength

I'm actually very glad they moved away from the wheeled trikes because that was the goofiest looking junk. As someone who really despises hover tech on imperial vehicles, I'm very glad the Votanni here have got hover vehicles. It's a good aesthetic choice and makes a clear delineation away from both their older look and looking 40k Imperial. They've made a good job of creating a new look for the faction but with obvious call backs to DAoT.

 Olthannon wrote:
I'm actually very glad they moved away from the wheeled trikes because that was the goofiest looking junk. As someone who really despises hover tech on imperial vehicles, I'm very glad the Votanni here have got hover vehicles. It's a good aesthetic choice and makes a clear delineation away from both their older look and looking 40k Imperial. They've made a good job of creating a new look for the faction but with obvious call backs to DAoT.

Well, it's not exactly that I despise grav/hover vehicles... is more that, nowadays, it seems everyone and their uncle has it. It's kind of not special anymore. Which it was.

 Olthannon wrote:
I'm actually very glad they moved away from the wheeled trikes because that was the goofiest looking junk. As someone who really despises hover tech on imperial vehicles, I'm very glad the Votanni here have got hover vehicles. It's a good aesthetic choice and makes a clear delineation away from both their older look and looking 40k Imperial. They've made a good job of creating a new look for the faction but with obvious call backs to DAoT.

Personally I think the new design looks incredibly bland. Appreciate that the classic trikes would be a bit derpy today but I'm sure there's a happy medium of keeping that same general 'feel' (and wheels) whilst updating it to modern design aesthetics. The 2 Necromunda Squats are a good example. The new stuff just lacks any sort of charm.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I'm actually very glad they moved away from the wheeled trikes because that was the goofiest looking junk. As someone who really despises hover tech on imperial vehicles, I'm very glad the Votanni here have got hover vehicles. It's a good aesthetic choice and makes a clear delineation away from both their older look and looking 40k Imperial. They've made a good job of creating a new look for the faction but with obvious call backs to DAoT.

Well, it's not exactly that I despise grav/hover vehicles... is more that, nowadays, it seems everyone and their uncle has it. It's kind of not special anymore. Which it was.

No, I'm saying I do. "As someone who despises" as in me what is doing the despising. Can't stand it, I much prefer imperial vehicles to have treads. Better aesthetic choice.

But I like that this trike hovers.

 Olthannon wrote:
I'm actually very glad they moved away from the wheeled trikes because that was the goofiest looking junk. As someone who really despises hover tech on imperial vehicles, I'm very glad the Votanni here have got hover vehicles. It's a good aesthetic choice and makes a clear delineation away from both their older look and looking 40k Imperial. They've made a good job of creating a new look for the faction but with obvious call backs to DAoT.

Yeah I didn't even see them revisiting trikes- the new ones look really good, not keen on that wheeled mock up. The hover tech looks really good and its own thing for the Votann/Kin, wheels look too much of a throwback and not "advanced tech" to me. But I guess everyone has their own taste when it comes to aesthetics and styling. personally loving the new direction the more I look at it.

I like it it is a hover vehicle, I just don't like how the anti-grav pads look. The texture makes them look too much like wheels turned sideways. Something that looks more like Tau drones would be better (and depending on the size those might be decent conversion material.)

I think they're going for the "energy pad" look from the hovercraft in The Matrix.

 kodos wrote:
Conversion kits?
There will be full models with wheels for halve the price ready on release day

But that's not really the same thing, is it? One's taking something that exists and turning it into something they feel is closer to what it should be. The other's just a knockoff.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I think they're going for the "energy pad" look from the hovercraft in The Matrix.

Yes, but if this is like an electric conductor like the matrix one the poor lady Kin would be electrocuted
Im still puzzled how that thing lands and how it looks when not energised...

 NAVARRO wrote:
Im still puzzled how that thing lands...

Very carefully?

 Olthannon wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I'm actually very glad they moved away from the wheeled trikes because that was the goofiest looking junk. As someone who really despises hover tech on imperial vehicles, I'm very glad the Votanni here have got hover vehicles. It's a good aesthetic choice and makes a clear delineation away from both their older look and looking 40k Imperial. They've made a good job of creating a new look for the faction but with obvious call backs to DAoT.

Well, it's not exactly that I despise grav/hover vehicles... is more that, nowadays, it seems everyone and their uncle has it. It's kind of not special anymore. Which it was.

No, I'm saying I do. "As someone who despises" as in me what is doing the despising. Can't stand it, I much prefer imperial vehicles to have treads. Better aesthetic choice.

But I like that this trike hovers.

Ah, ok, sorry, I misunderstood. As I said, I don't really despise them, they just bore me.