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Chopstick wrote:
They do bring oop stuff back from time and time, with updated (more expensive) price ofc Dark Vengeance, Island of Blood, Space Hulk, that big observatory, destroyed chaos dreadhold wall

I mean heck, Taco Bell said the Mexican Pizza would be gone forever on November 11, 2020. But here we are and May 17th isn't so far away!

On a more serious note: They reprinted Island of Blood?

I've got a recollection that Island of Blood did get a reprint at some stage, but I can't say when.

 Togusa wrote:

On a more serious note: They reprinted Island of Blood?

They did twice, under the name Spire of Dawn, I remember it was pretty cheap (for GW at the time) in the first re release, but then it sold out and move to made to order some time later with a price hike, like 10-20$ more I don't remember, and google didn't bring much result about the 2nd re release.

 Overread wrote:
I've got a recollection that Island of Blood did get a reprint at some stage, but I can't say when.

Your recollection is right.

They renamed it as "Spire of Dawn". 74 model start collecting set.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/215749/warhammer-age-sigmar-spire-dawn

Just went and ordered one Lhamaean, one beastmaster, one clawed fiend and a pair of kymerae.

If I don't get a chance to put in another, I can live with what I've ordered- I made sure to cover the most important bases. If I do get back, I'll go for a pair of medusae, a pair of slyth and another pair of khymerae. That will cover me entirely.

Just a heads up: everything except my lhamaean was a 180 day order. I'm hoping that's just their website being weird.

Final note: Researching lhamaean conversions, it looks like the GSC magus with a wych head and kabalite/ wych arms and weapons is the best option. That Magus model goes a long way- wanted to use her as a sister Famulous too- I'm converting up a House Locarno kill team, and a sister famulous would be an appropriate companion for a couple of Navigators and their Voidsmen at Arms.

The 180-day window is to prevent complaints about stuff taking ages. I've done 2 MTO runs in the past with the Vostroyans and the Ltd Ed Lt. The Vostryans were 2-3 months and the Lt was 4 IIRC. I'd completely forgotten I'd ordered him in fact and stuck another GW order in and it came bundled together.

 Wiz Warrior wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I've got a recollection that Island of Blood did get a reprint at some stage, but I can't say when.

Your recollection is right.

They renamed it as "Spire of Dawn". 74 model start collecting set.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/215749/warhammer-age-sigmar-spire-dawn

Heh, I've become very conservative with my GW purchases over the last few years but by crikey I'd splurge on more than just a few copies of IoB at the old prices, same with Battle for Skull Pass... which I missed out on due to being on a hobby hiatus, damn!

I know I recall buying a bunch of the High Elves twice and then sold the lot when Ossiarchs came along to move into them. Granted I'd not touched the models save to clip them off the sprue and put into neat bags with a view to cleaning and then assembling in batches.

Island of Blood is the best starter GW has ever made, and many of the kits within are still fantastic. I don't think there is a better gryphon model anywhere, even this many years later. IMO they should have it on permanent direct-only status at the least. People want those models.

IoB is the closest I’ve come to starting fantasy, it was a great set. Fortunately I kept my nerve and avoided the whole end times / sigmarisation debacle…

I don't play fantasy and even I bought Island of Blood. Split it with a friend. He got the High Elves, and I got all the Skaven for Warhammer Quest purposes.

I regret not buying the IoB. Just didn't have the money at the time I was interested in getting it. Now I see NoS elf halves go for $300 plus. Skaven is slightly cheaper at about $200.


If they ever MtO it again, i'd snap up two in a heartbeat.

The "Range Rotation" comes to Age of Sigmar:

• Hrothgorn's Mantrappers
  
• The Grymwatch
  
• Grashrak's Despoilers
  
• Skaeth's Wild Hunt
  
• Rippa's Snarlfangs
  
• Myari's Purifiers
  
• Morgok's Krushas
  
• The Dread Pageant
  
• The Wurmspat
  
• Morgwaeth's Blood-Coven
  
• Zarbag's Gitz
  
• Eyes of the Nine
  
• Steelheart's Champions
  
• Ironskull's Boyz
  
• The Chosen Axes
  
• Thorns of the Briar Queen
  
• Godsworn Hunt
  
• Stormsire's Cursebreakers
  
• Magore's Fiends
  
• Spiteclaw's Swarm
  
• Garrek's Reavers
  
• The Farstriders
  
• Sepulchral Guard
  
• Mollog's Mob
  

So basically every standalone Underworlds box that's not from the current batch or the one prior to that. All going away.

Huh, I thought most of those were already OOP.

As Underworld boxes, with cards and whatnot, yes. But as separate boxed releases sans cards, in Age of Sigmar packaging? No, they hung around.

It's how I got Magore's Fiends and The Dread Pageant.

Well, I guess this was the push I needed to finally get those Dread Pageant models.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
As Underworld boxes, with cards and whatnot, yes. But as separate boxed releases sans cards, in Age of Sigmar packaging? No, they hung around.

It's how I got Magore's Fiends and The Dread Pageant.

Ahhh, got it.

 KidCthulhu wrote:
Well, I guess this was the push I needed to finally get those Dread Pageant models.

Same, but why couldn't they have released this info yesterday when I made a previous site order

Ended up picking up another set of Thorns of the Briar queen, as I used two of the models from my original set for conversions. Great minis, and I do actually intend to use them some day in an Underworlds game, haha.

Old fine cast / metal models I can understand, but 2-3 year old plastic kits makes zero sense. What is GW playing at?

Moving older, slower sellers out of production until they have a focus on them again and then bring them back when they hype a relevant release to maximize the sales.

KidCthulhu wrote:Well, I guess this was the push I needed to finally get those Dread Pageant models.

Overread wrote:

 KidCthulhu wrote:
Well, I guess this was the push I needed to finally get those Dread Pageant models.

Same, but why couldn't they have released this info yesterday when I made a previous site order

Sabotage! wrote:Ended up picking up another set of Thorns of the Briar queen, as I used two of the models from my original set for conversions. Great minis, and I do actually intend to use them some day in an Underworlds game, haha.

Terrains are mostly produced in China so most likely GW don't want to expand their production oversea. Some terrain like the GSC Fragdrill go OOP very quickly after release.

 Tamereth wrote:
Old fine cast / metal models I can understand, but 2-3 year old plastic kits makes zero sense. What is GW playing at?

My guess would be because of limited sales. Those models are beyond useless in normal games of AoS with absolutely horrendous rules. I am sure someone, somewhere plays the Underworlds games, but I've never see it played in any of the stores I visit, and many of the expansions on our local shelves have such a thick layer of dust on them that I don't think they've even been touched in over a year or more.

We also have them ramping up for 30K getting a plastic release. In general Marine releases hit VERY heavily and Indomitus was an insane release for GW. Perhaps they are sweeping some of the chaff out of the system not just for finecast, but also to free up plastic casting by removing some niche product lines so that they can free up production to tackle a BIG approaching release. It might also be allowing them to shift things for a short term big release of models as they build up toward the launch, hence why its all happening right now in advance of a Q2 production push.



We also know that whilst the UK is steadily appearing to approach a point where Corona safety measures can be removed, we are not yet at that point. So the factory likely still has covid measures. Even without that there's also the potential that they might be under-powered from the local power grid.


Suffice to say I can see logic in this move even if I don't wholesale like it. Especially as those models are really some of the best AoS stuff out there; and they DO have Battletome rules. Heck the DoK set was starting to show that GW was developing some pretty sane way to use them in game.

while they have give AoS rules to the underworld bands none of them were real 'must haves' as they're mixed weapon/ability/stats units (well apart from Molog where the squigs dont really count) so not terribly efficient at any job you give them

so they're really only selling those to painters and not to gamers (and as the bands rotate out of usefulness there are going to be a good chunk on the second hand market too)

so i'm not too surprised they're going now they've started to rotate the main 40K and AoS ranges

They just added all the Underworlds warbands to Warcry and now they are removing the minis - seems like an odd choice!

 Togusa wrote:
I've never see it played in any of the stores I visit, and many of the expansions on our local shelves have such a thick layer of dust on them that I don't think they've even been touched in over a year or more.

Same experience here in Florida. I've seen just about everything under the sun being played, new/old KT, necromunda, titanicus, 40k, aos, infinity, WMH, xwing, legion, etc but not one single soul playing underworlds and all the boxes on the local shelves need dusted.

If product has so much dust on it that it looks like it has sat in place for a year, your store really needs to do more 'ousekeeping.

People buy the Underworlds warbands at my FLGS, but I'm not sure any of them do it to actually play Underworlds. I always wonder what the player count is on the smaller side games.