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Yes, resources spent that could always make the new Primaris Space [Insert Word with 'er' or 'or'] Marine.

 BlackoCatto wrote:
Yes, resources spent that could always make the new Primaris Space [Insert Word with 'er' or 'or'] Marine.

It has been a while since the last Lieutenant. Maybe someone on Dakka should do a wellness check on the team in Nottingham just to make sure they're ok?

 Bobthehero wrote:
I'd say 4-5 kits.

Troops, Command, Heavy, Veterans/Grenadiers (Whatever thematically works better for the Regiment)

Maybe a crew upgrade box for vehicles, though those can probably be added to the vehicle box itself

I'd say that crew upgrades would work best if they just are for specific, signature vehicles for those regiments.

 Pyroalchi wrote:
But then again, what do I know of economy. *shrugg*

this has more to do with the brand of GW

WGA can sell Guard models for cheap, if GW would buy them and sell Premium Plastic Models at a Premium Price, they cannot sell them for less than their own models, so WGA Guard would than cost the same as Cadians

the other problem is that those companies don't do in house plastic casting, so GW cannot just buy them and continue, they can only buy the design and stock, and need to make their own moulds for the casting in house, which is already overloaded with the plastics they are doing from their own designs

and they would gain nothing, no cheap alternative to keep the numbers of players high enough for others to buy GW models without a 2nd thought, while adding stuff to produce to a facility that is already fully booked

GW would rather hire new sculptors than buy whole miniature companies. And "profitable" on the miniature market really doesn't mean anything in comparison to other fields where this is common practice. It's too niche to be that interesting, in the end.

Besides, I believe GW will eventually sell other regiments than Cadia in the future. Just not in one big release, because that's clearly not how they work anymore.

New cadians are just more in line with what they have done previously on other human sized miniatures in Kill Team and Black Fortress. They'll never beat my catgirl regiment, though. No 3rd party would as well.

 kodos wrote:


WGA can sell Guard models for cheap, if GW would buy them and sell Premium Plastic Models at a Premium Price, they cannot sell them for less than their own models, so WGA Guard would than cost the same as Cadians

the other problem is that those companies don't do in house plastic casting, so GW cannot just buy them and continue, they can only buy the design and stock, and need to make their own moulds for the casting in house, which is already overloaded with the plastics they are doing from their own designs

and they would gain nothing, no cheap alternative to keep the numbers of players high enough for others to buy GW models without a 2nd thought, while adding stuff to produce to a facility that is already fully booked

Just to make sure: my comment on "what do I know of economy" was not meant sarcastically, I really don't have much knowledge there.
I imagined it to be something like: lets say company X produces obvious "not Cadians". The whole company is worth 10 million, they make a profit of 1 million a year, even though their minis are not legal in tournaments etc. But they are surfing on the WH40k wave which as a brand is carried by PR that GW is paying for. As I said, I don't know anything about economy, but what would technically keep GW from just buying everything for the 10 million and NOT try to produce it themselves? Never touch a running system, you know? The stuff is produced at the moment, so obviously it works somehow. Just because the overall owner changes, the production and distribution model doesn't have to.
And on the plus side: instead of designing themselves (with the risk of their design being met with little love by the costumer) they can directly buy one of the companys who has survived the selection process. There were numerous companies trying to sell "not guardsmen" yet some of them have proven to have better received designs. It seems to me less risky to buy those instead of trying yourself.

Again: *shrugg*, maybe I'm completely wrong, quite likely actually. Still I find it hard to understand where.

 Pyroalchi wrote:
Again: *shrugg*, maybe I'm completely wrong, quite likely actually. Still I find it hard to understand where.

first of all, the owner need to be willing to sell it to GW
and why cannot just buy them and keep everything the same is written in my previous post, or in short, they don't want those Minis under the GW brand
they already had enough trouble integrating ForgeWorld from a Sub-Company that is doing their own stuff, into the GW studio, following the GW "plans", they won't to this with a 3rd party company anytime soon

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I don't think that it would be a financial gamble for GW to produce different regiments in plastic.

It's what, three different kits per regiment (troops, command, heavy weapons)?

There are plenty of examples accross the board of plastic GW kits that are way more niche, the price of HIPs production is much lower for GW than it used to be.

I want multiple regiments.

But, you can't just think of this as them supporting 6 regiments. How many games is the company making now compared to six years ago?

40K
30K
AoS
The Old World (Future Addition)
Adeptus Titanicus
Aeronautical Imperialis
Necromunda
Blood Bowl
Kill Team
Underworlds
Warcry
Specialist games (Blackstone, Quest, etc)

I feel like a lot of times people do not stop to really think about how much stuff the company has or is building/creating at any given time, while at the same time understanding that, as the hobby is growing, it's still quite a small niche market when compared to something like Video Games or Star Wars. Adding in some more regiments might not seem like a lot, but when you consider there is something like 20 factions in 40K alone, another 18 or so in AoS and dozens upon Dozens in the other systems, three more can be a lot. I'm honestly shocked that they haven't just gone entirely with Cadia as the default guard regiment and then built sub factions based around concepts like Armored Company, Infantry Company, Heavy Weapons Company, Aerial Company, etc. I'm even more shocked that they brought Custodes, GSC, Squats back alongside the rumors about a revamp of Inquisition. It's a lot of stuff!

Looks like Catachan might still be on the menu...

One of those fronds looks as though it could be a feather, pushing this more into the realm of AoS imo (lizards?).

It would have to be a feather hanging up from something extremely small and low to the ground.

JWBS wrote:
One of those fronds looks as though it could be a feather, pushing this more into the realm of AoS imo (lizards?).

Aren't they re-doing the Empire range for AOS? I seem to remember a few of those old models had guys with fancy feather hats.

It could be a leaf, could be a feather or plume idk. Also it's not certain that those obvious fronds are at ground level. They aren't reminiscent of Empire to me though (though a Conquistador Sigmar cities vs Lizards would be pretty cool).

Those look like leaves not a feather.

More likely to be a fern from some new AoS Lizardmen model.

That's a leaf GW doesn't sculpt feathers like that

I do agree they look more like leaves, but the Empire do also have laurel leaves.

That's obviously a fern, stop clutching at straws.

No it's not so clear cut, eg this model and others https://chrisbuxeypaints.files.wordpress.com/2021/01/starpriest04.jpg

The closest thing already sculpted is the fern leaf on the Seraphon underworlds team, to my knowledge.

Yeah but that team has clear cut fern fronds, as well as feathers that aren't looking so dissimilar at all to the 'leaf' in question here https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/WHU-The-Starblood-Stalkers-EN-2021 so still I'm not convinced that it's definitely a leaf, could still go either way imo. /Edit - more I look, and compare it to these skinks, more I think it's a feather, I'd bet money in fact. Calling it for feather!

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
That's obviously a fern, stop clutching at straws.

Just to be clear, people aren’t talking about the main part of the photo (as far as I know) which is clearly a fern, but the smaller part to the left which does kinda look like a feather (although from context I’m assuming it’s a plant still).

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
That's obviously a fern, stop clutching at straws.

Just to be clear, people aren’t talking about the main part of the photo (as far as I know) which is clearly a fern, but the smaller part to the left which does kinda look like a feather (although from context I’m assuming it’s a plant still).

Yeah, it could be a feather... but from context it's almost certainly a leaf. There's a frond and a blade of grass, so it's pretty logical that the other thing is going to be a leaf.

Hm, a lot of fern believers in this thread..

My 5 cents is on jungle foliage, either on a Catachan base or maybe a new plastic Lictor ?

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

Hm, a lot of fern believers in this thread..

My 5 cents is on jungle foliage, either on a Catachan base or maybe a new plastic Lictor ?

Or Lizardmen. Basically anything that would typically be found in a jungle or rain forest type environment is my bet.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
That's obviously a fern, stop clutching at straws.

Just to be clear, people aren’t talking about the main part of the photo (as far as I know) which is clearly a fern, but the smaller part to the left which does kinda look like a feather (although from context I’m assuming it’s a plant still).

Yeah but why would anyone stick ferns into their decolative helmet feathers?

maybe they are getting married?

https://www.theknot.com/real-weddings/blue-orchid-peacock-feather-and-fern-bridal-bouquet-photo

 Flinty wrote:
maybe they are getting married?

https://www.theknot.com/real-weddings/blue-orchid-peacock-feather-and-fern-bridal-bouquet-photo

Farseer/vindicare assassin diorama kit for year 2 of Warhammer plus?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
maybe they are getting married?

https://www.theknot.com/real-weddings/blue-orchid-peacock-feather-and-fern-bridal-bouquet-photo

Farseer/vindicare assassin diorama kit for year 2 of Warhammer plus?

Exalted!

From a Reddit exchange with OK_E(I'm just reposting, was not mine!):

Q:
any idea if any FW krieg units will be in the 9th ed guard codex? Will this supersede the Imperial Armour Compendium regiment traits?

None

So, no additional Krieg units in the Guard book...there might be something to the rumour of a supplement book for some of the big Guard Regiments?