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**AtoMaki**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's a mini-Earthshaker. Just being a slightly more different-er Autocannon would make it about as redundant as the slightly bigger lascannon.

It is angled like a direct-fire weapon, so I would also say it is something like the Taurox Battle Cannon or the Predator Autocannon.

**StraightSilver**

AtoMaki wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's a mini-Earthshaker. Just being a slightly more different-er Autocannon would make it about as redundant as the slightly bigger lascannon.

It is angled like a direct-fire weapon, so I would also say it is something like the Taurox Battle Cannon or the Predator Autocannon.

Pretty sure in the stream they said it is a mini-Earthshaker, so it fires indirectly.

**xttz**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Did they say anything else about Kasrkin?

Are they Scions in new hats, or do they have a different role?

Maybe just heavy infantry but without deepstriking?

Any chance of shotguns on them or just Helguns?

OK_E covered this but I can't find the post. IIRC Scions are troops and have their own transports, while Kasrkin are Elites that can deep strike.

I'd also assume that Kasrkin are fixed to the CADIA keyword / trait in some form, while Scions can be from other worlds.

**Kanluwen**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Now. Open question.

I’ve seen mention on Dakka that the forthcoming Codex was removing a bunch of options, but I’ve not followed what those are said to be.

One I did glean from casual reading was Infantry Squads losing Heavy Weapons. Thanks to the livestream, we now know the rumour to have been a miscommunication. Whilst Cadian Shocktroop squads only get Special Weapons, Infantry Squads can still have Heavy Weapons.

So…..can someone offer me a comment-free list of the other things we’re being told as going bye bye?

Filter the thread by my postings and you can see what OK_Entrepeneur's listings were.

The HWTs going from Infantry Squads wasn't one of his though. He called it out for Cadians.

**Nefrums**

StraightSilver wrote:
AtoMaki wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's a mini-Earthshaker. Just being a slightly more different-er Autocannon would make it about as redundant as the slightly bigger lascannon.

It is angled like a direct-fire weapon, so I would also say it is something like the Taurox Battle Cannon or the Predator Autocannon.

Pretty sure in the stream they said it is a mini-Earthshaker, so it fires indirectly.

They said it was indirect, had 48" range, had D2 (and that this was less than the standard earthshaker)

**Kanluwen**

StraightSilver wrote:
AtoMaki wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's a mini-Earthshaker. Just being a slightly more different-er Autocannon would make it about as redundant as the slightly bigger lascannon.

It is angled like a direct-fire weapon, so I would also say it is something like the Taurox Battle Cannon or the Predator Autocannon.

Pretty sure in the stream they said it is a mini-Earthshaker, so it fires indirectly.

The statement was it hits like a mini-Earthshaker IIRC. The indirect fire part is up in the air.

It's called the "Bombast Field Cannon".
"Bombast" is, weirdly, a type of padding used to line the inside of garments or armor. Suggests a more defensive rather than offensive role though. Might not be indirect because of that.

**Nefrums**

Kanluwen wrote:
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Now. Open question.

I’ve seen mention on Dakka that the forthcoming Codex was removing a bunch of options, but I’ve not followed what those are said to be.

One I did glean from casual reading was Infantry Squads losing Heavy Weapons. Thanks to the livestream, we now know the rumour to have been a miscommunication. Whilst Cadian Shocktroop squads only get Special Weapons, Infantry Squads can still have Heavy Weapons.

So…..can someone offer me a comment-free list of the other things we’re being told as going bye bye?

Filter the thread by my postings and you can see what OK_Entrepeneur's listings were.

The HWTs going from Infantry Squads wasn't one of his though.

They specifically said that the HWT can be taken in infantry squads, but not by shook troops.

Also none else that noticed the voxes on the HWT models?

**Kanluwen**

Nefrums wrote:

They specifically said that the HWT can be taken in infantry squads, but not by shook troops.

Which I was not really disputing in the quoted post. I think MDG is trying to track down some of the weirder rumors. OK_E is one of the few trackable sources. The whole "NO HWTS IN INFANTRY SQUADS!" thing started showing up on the usual dumpsterfire rumour mills after they made a mention of Cadian Shock Troops getting no HWTs...while conveniently leaving out that Shock Troops, Krieg, and Catachans are all getting their own datasheets per their rumours.

Also none else that noticed the voxes on the HWT models?

Heavy Weapon Squad models. There's a Sergeant in there.

**Nefrums**

Kanluwen wrote:
StraightSilver wrote:
AtoMaki wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's a mini-Earthshaker. Just being a slightly more different-er Autocannon would make it about as redundant as the slightly bigger lascannon.

It is angled like a direct-fire weapon, so I would also say it is something like the Taurox Battle Cannon or the Predator Autocannon.

Pretty sure in the stream they said it is a mini-Earthshaker, so it fires indirectly.

The statement was it hits like a mini-Earthshaker IIRC. The indirect fire part is up in the air.

It's called the "Bombast Field Cannon".
"Bombast" is, weirdly, a type of padding used to line the inside of garments or armor. Suggests a more defensive rather than offensive role though. Might not be indirect because of that.

quote from the live stream, (if im not hearing it wrong) at 00:40:42
"if you think about it is its like a smaller earthshaker cannon, so you can shoot stuff you cant see, diches out multiple blast damage two shots"

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Kanluwen wrote:
Nefrums wrote:

They specifically said that the HWT can be taken in infantry squads, but not by shook troops.

Which I was not really disputing in the quoted post. I think MDG is trying to track down some of the weirder rumors. OK_E is one of the few trackable sources. The whole "NO HWTS IN INFANTRY SQUADS!" thing started showing up on the usual dumpsterfire rumour mills after they made a mention of Cadian Shock Troops getting no HWTs...while conveniently leaving out that Shock Troops, Krieg, and Catachans are all getting their own datasheets per their rumours.

Also none else that noticed the voxes on the HWT models?

Heavy Weapon Squad models. There's a Sergeant in there.

oh, your right! Did not notice that!

**Kanluwen**

I'm hesitant to get too excited about indirect fire on it at the moment. Might be stratagem or wargear related.

**Nefrums**

Do we have any confirmations on the base size of HWT? I tried to count pixels and compare to known things, nut this very inaccurate way of doing it game me 45mm :-D so no help there.

**Kanluwen**

There's a whole bunch of hooplah about them being 50mm based while the Ordnance are 60mm based...but the latter is wrong as they called those out at 100mm.

**AtoMaki**

Nefrums wrote:

quote from the live stream, (if im not hearing it wrong) at 00:40:42
"if you think about it is its like a smaller earthshaker cannon, so you can shoot stuff you cant see, diches out multiple blast damage two shots"

I'm okay with this. But then shouldn't the gun point upwards like the rocket launcher (or the actual Earthshaker, for that matter)? Artistic choice?

**ImAGeek**

Kanluwen wrote:
There's a whole bunch of hooplah about them being 50mm based while the Ordnance are 60mm based...but the latter is wrong as they called those out at 100mm.

I think the ‘hoopla’ (that I’ve seen anyway) is about the new ones being on 50mm while the current ones are on 60mm, nothing to do with the ordnance.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

AtoMaki wrote:
Nefrums wrote:

quote from the live stream, (if im not hearing it wrong) at 00:40:42
"if you think about it is its like a smaller earthshaker cannon, so you can shoot stuff you cant see, diches out multiple blast damage two shots"

I'm okay with this. But then shouldn't the gun point upwards like the rocket launcher (or the actual Earthshaker, for that matter)? Artistic choice?

I suspect it can direct fire as well as barrage fire. Certainly it seems the Missile Launcher Middle Ground (Middle Launcher?) of the three loadouts.

**Kanluwen**

Cadian Castellan!

Cadians have a long and proud history of command, boasting some of the finest leaders in the Imperium. Like the indomitable Ursula Creed, their Castellans have decades of experience wielding the hammer of the Emperor, and work to ensure that the legacy of Ursakar E. Creed is alive and well.

Unlike regular Command Squads, Castellans don’t go into battle accompanied by a retinue. They move among their troops, issuing orders and directing fire wherever it’s needed, all while extending re-rolls to every CORE unit in range.
Astra Militarum officers can all boost the effectiveness of their Guardsmen with orders, but the Castellan can issue two per turn. Orders are a vital aspect of the war machine, encouraging units to hit harder, pin down foes, and surge across the battlefield in mass human waves.

This incredible new model is tremendously versatile, and comes with plenty of weapon options and four separate heads which you can use to make it truly your own. It can be used with any Astra Militarum army, Cadian or otherwise – even the Death Korps of Krieg and the Catachan Jungle Fighters need battlefield command.

Castellans are competent fighters in their own right, with a panoply of powerful equipment at their disposal. Many a foul traitor has tried to cut the head from the Imperial beast only to receive a power fist to the face for their trouble.

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**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Ninja’d

Pretty sweet model. Implies further equipment options including Power Fist.

**BertBert**

Kanluwen wrote:
Cadian Castellan!

Looks like a solid kit! I really like the one without hat, might make for a nice Inquisitor conversion base.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Also…background of the image with the Ogryn? I’m not recognising that broken tank.

**ListenToMeWarriors**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also…background of the image with the Ogryn? I’m not recognising that broken tank.

That tank is Nork Deddog...

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Also also? Castellan painted appropriately makes a better Commissar.

Were Castellans rumoured?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Here’s a clearer image of the tank.

I don’t think it’s a FW model?

**Shadow Walker**

Castellan is my favourite new IG so far. Also, 4 heads to choose from!

**ImAGeek**

Pretty sweet. I do like to see these HQ models with actual options.

**xttz**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also also? Castellan painted appropriately makes a better Commissar.

Were Castellans rumoured?

There was a rumour about a Lord Commissar with a power fist & plasma gun, standing on a tactical rock. It's possible that is an alternative option for this kit, or was just mixed up with it.

Enhance!

**BrookM**

I see elements of the Baneblade in there, but it's not the same kit.

**AtoMaki**

xttz wrote:

Spoiler:

I first thought it was a Kratos because of the co-ax gun. Heh.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

It’s not a FW Macharius either. Turret is all wrong.

I think this is the fabled Rogal Dorn you know.

**Geifer**

I liked the commander. Until I got to the feet.

Cadia stands! On rocks! Because the floor is lava!

Actually they should have given them lava basing. I mean, Cadia is kind of leaky these days. It only makes sense.

**Kanluwen**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s not a FW Macharius either. Turret is all wrong.

I think this is the fabled Rogal Dorn you know.

Name is "Praetorian". Supposed to be kinda like the Churchill.