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Hell, I HAVE melee equipped Command Squads because one of my Guard armies are Imperial Beastmen and it's fluffy, fun, AND funny trying to bring things down with them because they're fanatical about doing it.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Hell, I HAVE melee equipped Command Squads because one of my Guard armies are Imperial Beastmen and it's fluffy, fun, AND funny trying to bring things down with them because they're fanatical about doing it.

Putting here ideas: mine is a Traitor Guard army very melee focused

I think I will have a lot of fun trying some of the new rules, because, for example, I think you can have a command squad with 5 power fists? Sounds fun

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Back before you had to scatter every blast marker shot (thanks Jervis!) I was a big fan of Grenade Launchers, specifically in Command Squads. My Cadian and Tallarn Command Squads are built around quad Grenade Launchers, as it was fun to throw four blast markers at something. They were generally greater than the sum of their parts.

Yes, 4 flamers or 4 Meltas were better overall (I don't believe I ever took 4 Plasmas... too risky!), but the unit was fun.

Remember that, GW? "Fun". Taking away options usually results in the opposite of "fun".

Yeah, back then my main IG army was all footsloggers with MLs and GLs, plust mortars for the command squads. Like, a crap ton of them.

It was stupidly glorious.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Back before you had to scatter every blast marker shot (thanks Jervis!) I was a big fan of Grenade Launchers, specifically in Command Squads. My Cadian and Tallarn Command Squads are built around quad Grenade Launchers, as it was fun to throw four blast markers at something. They were generally greater than the sum of their parts.

Yes, 4 flamers or 4 Meltas were better overall (I don't believe I ever took 4 Plasmas... too risky!), but the unit was fun.

Remember that, GW? "Fun". Taking away options usually results in the opposite of "fun".

*Points to spreadsheet* But the graph is going up. That means the game must be fun! See, the graph proves it.

If the leaked playtest rules are a good representation of the final product, it's shaping up to be another Schrodinger's codex balancing good overall quality of life improvements (playable without being at a disadvantage) vs dumb corporate policy (NMNR) forcing the codex writer's hand.

Most of the silliest restrictions can be worked around with a bit of creativity, having your infantry squads count-as the new snow flake infantry squad variants can fill in some of the specialist gaps (want a DKoK flamer squad? Use the Catachan profile and call them Krieg Trench Fighters etc).

Has anyone figured out how Scions might fit in though? The new orders mechanic looks like it might not work for deep striking units, and they likely don't have obsec (being elites) or special weapon density anymore either.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/31/lead-the-astra-militarum-from-the-front-with-the-legendary-lord-solar-leontus/

Looks like a freeguild general got lost and ended up in 40k

I like the sculpt in a vacuum, but it feels more AoS Cities of Sigmar than 40K Imperial Guard, yeah

The ol' Tactical Rock got upgraded to a Tactical Reaver Titan Head. He must be important!

That is the most OK model in 40k.

I don’t hate it, but it doesn’t at all feel right for guard right now.

Is that a titan head on the base?

 Tim the Biovore wrote:

Spoiler:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/31/lead-the-astra-militarum-from-the-front-with-the-legendary-lord-solar-leontus/

New Stormcast Knight model looks alright. Isn't this meant to be for IG rumours, though?

Nice Empire General.
Now where's the Lord Solar model?

I don't mind it, but the horse needs to be more cybernetic or the dude does.

Is there a generic build at all or the option for no horse?

What, IMO, throws it off is that the "metal" is painted white--it looks more like fur because of that.

Mine will be Grey Knights Steel.

beast_gts wrote:
Is that a titan head on the base?

Now they just need to release the other 80% of the titan head, and then the rest of the titan in plastic. Didnt expect to see a reaver in plastic before a warhound though...

That sucks ass, between the bland pastel colours and the inherent lack of any 40kness

Well that is the second time in a row where I think, Macharius is just better. And yes, he had a model. A long freaking time ago.

I'd rather Kitbash, thanks, but no. Not gonna end in my army.

So... Where grimdark?

WAIT...

What is at the bottom of this picture? This looks like it could be some new terrain.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ywL6yaiXTMzLDO04.jpg

For the Lord Solar, he feels a bit bland. His overall design is also somewhat lacking in 40k theming, where it not for the Aquila he wouldn't look at all out of place in WHFB/AOS. Even the old Solar Macharius miniature had a bit more to his armour than that does.

He's missing the over-the-top decoration that you'd expect of high ranking Imperial leaders, and the extra enhancements and unique elements that would make him feel like someone special.

At least my Stonewall Jackson model from the ol' 5E days will have some rules again... but man, that is one "meh" model.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
For the Lord Solar, he feels a bit bland. His overall design is also somewhat lacking in 40k theming, where it not for the Aquila he wouldn't look at all out of place in WHFB/AOS. Even the old Solar Macharius miniature had a bit more to his armour than that does.

He's missing the over-the-top decoration that you'd expect of high ranking Imperial leaders, and the extra enhancements and unique elements that would make him feel like someone special.

I feel like that is part of the point. He is wearing somewhat elaborate gear and rides a servo horse, but at the end of the day he isn't the leader of the cyborgs or genehanced star knights or religious fanatics in power armor. He's the leader of the squishy human faction who make do with blood, grit, and massive firepower, with the occasional need to get close and hit things with a sword.

The head looks really bad. The rest is, fine.

Wow, this "lord solar" is the most generic space fantasy general I've seen in a long time. I bet I can make a more convincing one with the old Empire general kit and some IG parts
It's a very uninspired release

Thanks, I hate it,

 godardc wrote:
Wow, this "lord solar" is the most generic space fantasy general I've seen in a long time. I bet I can make a more convincing one with the old Empire general kit and some IG parts
It's a very uninspired release

I honestly thought, when I saw the preview and didn't realize it was an Imperial Guard release, they were showing more previews of the Cities of Sigmar stuff.

It's a bit mediocre. It is not bad model per se, but looks like something GW would have made a decade or more ago. And the paintjob certainly isn't doing it any favours.

Yep, it's a dude on a horse alright. Lord Solar? I guess. I mean, he wears pajamas to battle and no one stops him, so he's got to be important.

And he's not Saber Rider. So yeah, dud.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
For the Lord Solar, he feels a bit bland. His overall design is also somewhat lacking in 40k theming, where it not for the Aquila he wouldn't look at all out of place in WHFB/AOS. Even the old Solar Macharius miniature had a bit more to his armour than that does.

He's missing the over-the-top decoration that you'd expect of high ranking Imperial leaders, and the extra enhancements and unique elements that would make him feel like someone special.

I feel like that is part of the point. He is wearing somewhat elaborate gear and rides a servo horse, but at the end of the day he isn't the leader of the cyborgs or genehanced star knights or religious fanatics in power armor. He's the leader of the squishy human faction who make do with blood, grit, and massive firepower, with the occasional need to get close and hit things with a sword.

I don't feel like that's a good reason really, he can be a fitting representation of the Imperial Guard and still have enough decoration to make him interesting at the same time. This guy is meant to be one of the most important figures, yet they've gone for something that looks no more special than a WHFB Empire General. He doesn't really have anything to make him seem unqiue, to me even something like the Necromunda House Grieg Kreig Meister and miniatures of Rogue Traders feels more special than he does.