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 Olthannon wrote:
I like the theme behind it more than I like the model itself. The gold gilded pristine lord general on his white charger while the dirty poor footsoldiers die in their thousands while he does not bat an eye? Yep that fits the bill.

The model itself though? Tricky. I don't mind it but I'm not particularly blown away by it.

Out of context I think not great. If this was shown at the head of a Praetorian army or a custom regiment, it would fit very well.

If it were me designing it, I would have added some servo skulls and cherubs that held his cloak in a noble flowing pose.

The best I can say is that the problems I have are easily fixable. And maybe that's the point. For me a guard kit should be easy to convert to something individual that I want in my army.

Yeah, some servo skulls would have helped the model a lot. It would make it look more like a 40k model.

Personal take is that between this and the return of Command Squads as just individual models? This was a wasted opportunity for Guard to get a "diorama" model.


This would have been far superior in both instances.

I get where they were going with the Lord Solar. I definitely, 100% think it would look far better with copper or silver instead of white ceramic coating on the metals.

I won't return the model if given it as a gift...but I won't be buying it myself. Not when I can get more interesting stuff.

 ScarletRose wrote:
It seems like they've moved away from the grouped models on a huge base centerpiece thing, but AM would have been perfect for a "command post" type model - officers around a table, radio man, servitors, maybe make it a dugout or trench with bunker entrances.

But hey fantasy cavalry dude is... something I guess.

Like this 6mm thing of beauty, but at 28mm scale.

It's really not terribly hard:

Oh man, that's a great conversion opportunity. Would be tricky getting the line of sight to match though, but it could be done.

The lord solar, very boring model. I don't like it.

That looks like a better 'drinking a nice cuppa' model than the ones you can make from WA's Bulldogs set.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Gert wrote:
You can't tell that the model with Imperial Aquilas, cybernetics, and is standing on a Reaver Titan head is from 40k?

Instant impression is it’s for AoS.

Take the Reaver head away, and it’s simply not obviously for 40K.

Paint scheme helps a lot in getting that impression, too.

Fair point. Also the shape of the barding.

It’s all just a too…clean for 40k?

 Gert wrote:

Why though. Is it because it's a horse? Or because it's painted gold?

The colour scheme is part of the issue, but also the pose and equipment. There is nothing that really outwardly speaks "40k". He's holding a sword, but rather than being a chainword it's a fairly generic looking blade. He has a gun, but it's not a prominent feature and is not a plasma pistol, bolt pistol or even laspistol. No cherubs, no Servo skulls, nothing of that nature. Yarrick had his huge power klaw and mechanical eye and was obviously a commissar. Macharius had his bolt pistol out. Creed was wearing Cadian uniform. This one just has his sword out and a mechanical horse with subtle modifications and that's it.

I mean the Skaven do weird stuff but no other faction does clockwork cyborgs or enhancements on biologicals.

The Empire also had mechanical clockwork horses. Much more augmented and obvious than the one here, actually. The Skaven weren't the only faction to deal in machinery.

He's the Lord Solar. What do you think the crest is meant to represent? He also has the laurels on the helm and has a gun and I'm not sure how they could have gone body horror when it has no natural legs, a robotic eye and tubes in its neck. It's got more enhancements than the Death Korps riders do. The only thing Macharius had that this model doesn't is thigh armour.

Lord Solar Macharius didn't have a sun crest, just a very prominent Laureal. Do you who know does have sun crests? Storm Casts. I didn't even notice the laurels on the helm because between the sun crest is much more dominant and a minor gold detail tends to blend in against a gold helmet.
Death Riders have gasmasks on their mounts. That is much more distinctive than a single tube in the neck and some joints and lends more to the body horror element. Body horror is more than just having some a few clean, unobtrusive augments. Body horror would be the horse clearly having the tubes and circuitry burrowing into it's flesh. Body horror is the horse having to wear a gasmask (especially one that's been surgically implanted) because the battlefields of the future are so hazardous and toxic that it needs such a modification to survive. That is 40k.

Yes, Leontus has a gun. It also looks like a flint lock, not something that the Imperials tend to use. You know, like a bolt pistol. Something Macharius was actively holding that you could clearly see.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Gert wrote:
You can't tell that the model with Imperial Aquilas, cybernetics, and is standing on a Reaver Titan head is from 40k?

Instant impression is it’s for AoS.

Take the Reaver head away, and it’s simply not obviously for 40K.

Paint scheme helps a lot in getting that impression, too.

Agreed, with the legs painted white you need to look closely to see that they're actually robotic. I've seen a few people say that they'd paint the legs in metallic colours instead and think that would make a big difference.

Also a more futuristic pistol wouldn't hurt.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Personal take is that between this and the return of Command Squads as just individual models? This was a wasted opportunity for Guard to get a "diorama" model.


This would have been far superior in both instances.

I get where they were going with the Lord Solar. I definitely, 100% think it would look far better with copper or silver instead of white ceramic coating on the metals.

I won't return the model if given it as a gift...but I won't be buying it myself. Not when I can get more interesting stuff.

Of all the armies to get a diorama model it should have been guard, yes.

Joining the chorus I'm not a fan. I could easily have imagined someone on horseback but I would have out them in a nice archaic uniform with way too many medals and the like. I was thinking something like an excessive Hussar uniform or something else that feels Napoleonic. And I would certainly have added some more visible cybernetics and servo skulls and the like. And, of course, a sort of fitting bodyguard. In terms of weapons, my preference would have been a baton to really accentuate that it's about command and not kicking ass.

Ideally through, something like a group diorama thing where you shave the over the tip general, a few flamboyant aides, and perhaps some Storm Trooper bodyguards or the like.

Just what I always wanted in my life. A mini of Arthur from Arthur and the Knights of Justice...

 Grimtuff wrote:
Just what I always wanted in my life. A mini of Arthur from Arthur and the Knights of Justice...

You're not even wrong

Seems you could make a much better one out of these guys.

Having built a bunch of them, lol no.


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 Dolnikan wrote:

Ideally through, something like a group diorama thing where you shave the over the tip general, a few flamboyant aides, and perhaps some Storm Trooper bodyguards or the like.

That's why I really like the art I had posted. There's a Commissar, an Inquisitorial representative, servitors linked to datanets, etc.

Throw in Ecclesiarchal, Navy, and Mechanicus representatives? It begins to showcase just what a Lord Solar might be involved in...and opens up some interesting possibilities for unique abilities.

If he’s the precursor to new kits that share his design aesthetic, he’s pretty cool.

As a solitary dude he’s dissapointing. If his base inserts into a bigger scenic base(like FW Primarchs or Gotrek of AoS) and it has him surrounded by command staff/retainers like Glutos and Katakros of AoS, he’d much improve.

Its a great model, i love it. mm but for fantasy or aos not for a general of the empirial gaurd.
it hasnt anny conection to the gaurd no regemint he would belong to, or has a history with. leader on a hors is a stupid idea would be prime target for the enemy

A new AoS Model, Lord Solar. No wait, its actually 40k.

Personally I love it, and am really enjoying all the negative Nancy vibes on here about it.

It just means all the more for me, give me them all.

 Albertorius wrote:
It's really not terribly hard:

I have that set - its awesome - vs a dull man on a dull horse without any real 40k elements.....sad really

Man, that's an olllllllld fashioned plastic sculpt. It looks like when they first started to translate some WFB Knights into plastic and didn't do a fantastic job all the time.

The horse is just so static - if the head was turning a bit more or something it would look more natural, and the bionics on the legs are not obvious enough so it just looks like the articulation joints on an action figure more than a cyborg horse. Leontus himself also feels pretty static, especially with his helm and collar making him feel like he has a fat neck. He's also looking... sort of twenty foot in the air somewhere? With a very passive disinterest. His torso and leg armour is so boring compared to the detail of the old Macharius model.

Yeah, very disappointing. At least the Rough Riders had good horses even if felt the riders were a little static.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Yes, Leontus has a gun. It also looks like a flint lock, not something that the Imperials tend to use. You know, like a bolt pistol. Something Macharius was actively holding that you could clearly see.

His choice of pistol is reasonable. His first name is Arrrr Cadian, which makes him 500% more likely to use a flintlock than a normal Cadian.

 nels1031 wrote:
If he’s the precursor to new kits that share his design aesthetic, he’s pretty cool.

As a solitary dude he’s dissapointing. If his base inserts into a bigger scenic base(like FW Primarchs or Gotrek of AoS) and it has him surrounded by command staff/retainers like Glutos and Katakros of AoS, he’d much improve.

Not unless they're all on horses too.

I think I'd like him better if he was this guy from the 2nd edition IG Codex.



Never got a model but had rules. Now there is a guy who looks like he could lead the Imperium from the back of a saddle.

The model we're seeing... Not so much.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Dude's dressed as an anachronistic warmaster of olde, and he's "no more special" than a WHFB empire general...while riding a mechanical horse.

Got it.

Well...Mechanical horse is hardly 40k thing seeing it's also been in fantasy battle

So yeah. FB calling their hero back.

Only the reaver head on base is off in fantasy battle/AOS. But it's sad day when BASE has to sell the story over the model...

Horsey also doesn’t stand well on the base.

First impression was also a Free Guild or Free Cities mounted character. I can see hints of the old Goodwin design in the model, but I am not overly impressed or blown away by it.

Codex cover art is also a bit of a miss, I get that they want to promote the new HQ model, but it doesn't capture the essence of the Imperial Guard.

 Gert wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I can only speak for myself, but apart from giving off huge Fantasy vibes (which you don't seem to agree with!), the model is so, so different from any other Guard model that I can think of, meaning that it stands out like a sore thumb.

Edit:, yes, I'm aware that Rough Riders exist!

Just saying "Fantasy Vibes" doesn't actually mean anything though. Is it because the model is mounted on a horse that happens to be painted gold?

I think "fantasy vibes" conveys my thoughts quite nicely, but okay.

It's the entire composition of the model. Sure, the gold/horse thing plays a large part, but it's not just that. The helmet is pure fantasy, as is the sword, the entire rider looks like he belongs in AOS, even his pistol looks archaic.

As has been said before by others the robotic horse is straight out of WFB too.

Just imagine how un-40k it would look If the model was based on grass instead of the 40k scenic base (yes, regardless of the aquila!)

As I mentioned before I think that a headswap and a more traditional Guard colour scheme would make a big difference to the model, and I defo agree that the odd Servo Skull placement would help. All of these things are easy mods if people choose to.

I get that you sometimes take the stance of argumentative defender, and to be honest sometimes that's exactly what this site needs more of, but in this case IMHO you are fighting an uphill battle.

 BrookM wrote:
Codex cover art is also a bit of a miss, I get that they want to promote the new HQ model, but it doesn't capture the essence of the Imperial Guard.

I like the cover art, but even if I didn't I'd be forgiving of it. It's for the limited edition codex in the launch box after all, and the only thing that makes these things limited edition is the cover. I think it's best to actually have distinctive artwork for the cover if you're going to make it a selling point.

I like special covers for my codex, but i think i will wait for the normal one this time.If you look at the cover i woudnt gues its for a 40k army.

Nice center piece statue straight out of Trafalgar's Square. The day I start an AoS army I'll give it a thought but for 40K it's a hard pass.

M.