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Dude's dressed as an anachronistic warmaster of olde, and he's "no more special" than a WHFB empire general...while riding a mechanical horse.

Got it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Dude's dressed as an anachronistic warmaster of olde, and he's "no more special" than a WHFB empire general...while riding a mechanical horse.

Got it.

Mechanical horses were a thing in WHFB too.

Its a no from me. Worst concept GW have made in some time. Mediocre model in completely the wrong army.

I feel they where going for a old painting look you see of a lord on his horse with a sword.

But guy with sword is soo common that the horse has to carry a lot of the theme, and nether are that unique or special from other GW offerings.

 AtoMaki wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Dude's dressed as an anachronistic warmaster of olde, and he's "no more special" than a WHFB empire general...while riding a mechanical horse.

Got it.

Mechanical horses were a thing in WHFB too.

Yes, clockwork horses were a thing in WHFB.

His steed Konstantin* is decades old, now largely cybernetic and clad in gleaming armour.

Cybernetically preserved horses weren't a thing in WHFB though.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Dude's dressed as an anachronistic warmaster of olde, and he's "no more special" than a WHFB empire general...while riding a mechanical horse.

Got it.

In the context he's in of the 40k setting, where we've seen far more elaborate and unique designs, then yes not that interesting in comparison to what else we've seen. I wouldn't say he's meant to be "dressed as an anachronistic warmaster of olde" is something itself that stands out when looking like historical uniforms is just part of the Imperial Guard and the Imperiums theming overall, either.

Tyel wrote:
Its a no from me. Worst concept GW have made in some time. Mediocre model in completely the wrong army.

How is it the wrong army though? Genuinely curious.
The Guard is an amalgamation of modern and future technology with the ethos and tactics of Napoleonic-era armies.
This dude is like space Napoleon and the model clearly takes inspiration from this painting.

Apple fox wrote:
I feel they where going for a old painting look you see of a lord on his horse with a sword.

But guy with sword is soo common that the horse has to carry a lot of the theme, and nether are that unique or special from other GW offerings.

Apple Fox nails it in one. The horse has to carry a lot of the theme, and what's special about the horse(it being cybernetically preserved rather than just a mechanical horse) is a bit too subtle.


The augmetics are mostly a flawless white. There are a few oil streaks around bolts but that's it for the most part.

I'm more interested in the Codex cover.

Is that a Renegade Guardsman in the foreground and will those standard bearers get a release?

Completely baffled by the cover. Not a lasgun in sight!

 Tim the Biovore wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/31/lead-the-astra-militarum-from-the-front-with-the-legendary-lord-solar-leontus/

I honestly can't tell if he's meant to be from AoS or Warhammer 40k. That is not a good design.

You can't tell that the model with Imperial Aquilas, cybernetics, and is standing on a Reaver Titan head is from 40k?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 AtoMaki wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Dude's dressed as an anachronistic warmaster of olde, and he's "no more special" than a WHFB empire general...while riding a mechanical horse.

Got it.

Mechanical horses were a thing in WHFB too.

Yes, clockwork horses were a thing in WHFB.

His steed Konstantin* is decades old, now largely cybernetic and clad in gleaming armour.

Cybernetically preserved horses weren't a thing in WHFB though.

Just sayin' that a general on a mechanical horse (clockwork or cybernetically preserved) is well within WHF... I mean, AoS expectations. This Lord Solar wouldn't stick out from the Free Cities range at all, especially with that Sigmarite iconography.

 cerebaton wrote:
Completely baffled by the cover. Not a lasgun in sight!

March closer! I want to hit them with my flag.

Sure and by that logic nor would demigryph knights.

...yeah, I can see why GW would choose this guy instead of Yarrick for one of the IG codex special characters slots. It's clearly superior [/s]

 Gert wrote:
You can't tell that the model with Imperial Aquilas, cybernetics, and is standing on a Reaver Titan head is from 40k?

Not at first glance, no. If you can put him in an army from AoS he can probably blend in for a while.
Cybernetics isn't that much of a tell because they aren't that obvious and you can get some weird golem stuff in AoS as well, no?

The only big give away is the base, yes. But the model should be the focus of, well, the model, not the base.

The crest on his helmet is more similar to that sort of sun crest motif thing you see on AoS models. If they had given him a crest more like the one Lord Solar Macharius has and a gun, maybe lean more into the cybernetic body horror on the horse, I think it would look a lot better in a 40k army.

I don't really mind the gold armour that much because they're clearly trying to copy Lord Solar Macharius. The problem is though is that between the clean colour scheme, the lack of firearms (yes, he has a pistol but it's not obvious and it looks more like a flintlock than something the Imperium would issue. You know, like what you would find in WHFB/AoS), the sun crest (why not a laureal like Macharius or a lion crest? His name is Leontus. Lord Solar is a title, not a name. Macharius didn't have a sun crest, so it's not part of the uniform.) and the relative lack of augments on the horse in a setting known for body horror, he doesn't quite fit 40k as much as he should and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people thought he was a AoS model at first.

It just doesn't look like it belongs in a guard army.

A headswap and a different painjob would do wonders, but stylistically it still has no place in my own collection.

 Gert wrote:

Tyel wrote:
Its a no from me. Worst concept GW have made in some time. Mediocre model in completely the wrong army.

How is it the wrong army though? Genuinely curious.
The Guard is an amalgamation of modern and future technology with the ethos and tactics of Napoleonic-era armies.
This dude is like space Napoleon and the model clearly takes inspiration from this painting.

Spoiler:

I thought of exactly the same painting... would have been pretty cool

Edit: I mean: would have been cool, if the model have caught the flair of that painting better

I love yarrick and hope he comes back but the dude should be dead he’s like a million years old and shouldn’t be alive.

I am glad we got a commander on horse BUT I think I would have rather seen the lord solar for the imperium on a chariot type platform containing multiple advisors. It makes no sense but they could have leaned into the Roman emperor theme.

My 1st thought was "Damn, now I'll have to find a really good commission painter to match this to my AoS Cities army. :("
{the guy who painted my Dogs of War WFB army, nowdays used as CoS, is long gone & I've already failed at matching his work}

Love the model. Have no intention of using it for 40k though. I'll probably buy two - one to get painted to match my AoS Cities force, & the 2nd to serve for an RPG character

 Gert wrote:

Tyel wrote:
Its a no from me. Worst concept GW have made in some time. Mediocre model in completely the wrong army.

How is it the wrong army though? Genuinely curious.
The Guard is an amalgamation of modern and future technology with the ethos and tactics of Napoleonic-era armies.
This dude is like space Napoleon and the model clearly takes inspiration from this painting.

Spoiler:

I can only speak for myself, but apart from giving off huge Fantasy vibes (which you don't seem to agree with!), the model is so, so different from any other Guard model that I can think of, meaning that it stands out like a sore thumb.

Edit:, yes, I'm aware that Rough Riders exist!

Warhammer Fans: This new model sucks! It's got way too many bits and bobs on it! It looks like it's from Star Craft, wtf? Woah GW, this model needs to look more generic for my conversions!

Also Warhammer Fans: This new model sucks! It's way too generic! It doesn't even look like it belongs in 40K, there are no identifying bits and bobs on it! This model needs to look more like [faction]! WTF GW?!

God you people are exhausting.

It seems like they've moved away from the grouped models on a huge base centerpiece thing, but AM would have been perfect for a "command post" type model - officers around a table, radio man, servitors, maybe make it a dugout or trench with bunker entrances.

But hey fantasy cavalry dude is... something I guess.

 Gert wrote:
You can't tell that the model with Imperial Aquilas, cybernetics, and is standing on a Reaver Titan head is from 40k?

Instant impression is it’s for AoS.

Take the Reaver head away, and it’s simply not obviously for 40K.

I like the theme behind it more than I like the model itself. The gold gilded pristine lord general on his white charger while the dirty poor footsoldiers die in their thousands while he does not bat an eye? Yep that fits the bill.

The model itself though? Tricky. I don't mind it but I'm not particularly blown away by it.

Out of context I think not great. If this was shown at the head of a Praetorian army or a custom regiment, it would fit very well.

If it were me designing it, I would have added some servo skulls and cherubs that held his cloak in a noble flowing pose.

The best I can say is that the problems I have are easily fixable. And maybe that's the point. For me a guard kit should be easy to convert to something individual that I want in my army.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Gert wrote:
You can't tell that the model with Imperial Aquilas, cybernetics, and is standing on a Reaver Titan head is from 40k?

Instant impression is it’s for AoS.

Take the Reaver head away, and it’s simply not obviously for 40K.

Paint scheme helps a lot in getting that impression, too.

Needed a Picklehaube helmet, a row of medals and a baton rather than a sword, then with a grimdark paint job I could see it being a Baroque Imperial officer.

This doesn't quite work for me.

Gonna buck the trend and say I actually like it quite a lot. Not keen on the face, wish it had a full face mask but I reckon I could paint it up like that.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Not at first glance, no. If you can put him in an army from AoS he can probably blend in for a while.

Why though. Is it because it's a horse? Or because it's painted gold?

Cybernetics isn't that much of a tell because they aren't that obvious and you can get some weird golem stuff in AoS as well, no?

I mean the Skaven do weird stuff but no other faction does clockwork cyborgs or enhancements on biologicals.

The crest on his helmet is more similar to that sort of sun crest motif thing you see on AoS models. If they had given him a crest more like the one Solar Macharius has and a gun, maybe lean more into the cybernetic body horror on the horse, I think it would look a lot better in a 40k army.

He's the Lord Solar. What do you think the crest is meant to represent? He also has the laurels on the helm and has a gun and I'm not sure how they could have gone body horror when it has no natural legs, a robotic eye and tubes in its neck. It's got more enhancements than the Death Korps riders do. The only thing Macharius had that this model doesn't is thigh armour.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
I can only speak for myself, but apart from giving off huge Fantasy vibes (which you don't seem to agree with!), the model is so, so different from any other Guard model that I can think of, meaning that it stands out like a sore thumb.

Edit:, yes, I'm aware that Rough Riders exist!

Just saying "Fantasy Vibes" doesn't actually mean anything though. Is it because the model is mounted on a horse that happens to be painted gold?