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Awful model, totally off point with what it should be.

He should have attendants etc swarming all over him, feeding him data etc. Not faffing about on a bloody horse, where he would struggle to keep upto date with what is going on system wide (which is what a lord solar should be keeping an eye on).

Not to mention it looks like it is fresh out of age of sigmar. The bionics on the horse are so unremarkable and lacking grim dark that I missed them the first time.

And the face is so so so bad, looks like the helmet is apart of the head as opposed to being on it.

Hard pass.

 Togusa wrote:
Warhammer Fans: This new model sucks! It's got way too many bits and bobs on it! It looks like it's from Star Craft, wtf? Woah GW, this model needs to look more generic for my conversions!

Also Warhammer Fans: This new model sucks! It's way too generic! It doesn't even look like it belongs in 40K, there are no identifying bits and bobs on it! This model needs to look more like [faction]! WTF GW?!

God you people are exhausting.

You realize there's literally a middle ground for models to fit in between those two comments, yes?

Huh, this just seems like a weird miss. I don't collect guard, but this doesn't fit in with the line *at all*.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Awful model, totally off point with what it should be.

He should have attendants etc swarming all over him, feeding him data etc. Not faffing about on a bloody horse, where he would struggle to keep upto date with what is going on system wide (which is what a lord solar should be keeping an eye on).

Not to mention it looks like it is fresh out of age of sigmar. The bionics on the horse are so unremarkable and lacking grim dark that I missed them the first time.

And the face is so so so bad, looks like the helmet is apart of the head as opposed to being on it.

Hard pass.

If we still keep with the horsey, Ludwig Schwarzhelm is a far better looking proxy for this guy than the guy himself. It boggles my mind. Just swap out some weapons and remove the Sigmar bits and you have a much more 40k-looking Lord Solar.

What was the name of the clockwork horse guy? He'd fit even better.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
What was the name of the clockwork horse guy? He'd fit even better.

He was a generic engineer IIRC. The clockwork dobbin was an option for them in the 7th ed book.

EDIT- yup. https://miniset.net/sets/gw-99810202013

I like the butt forward aspect of his pistol. It makes the model more...cavalry.....if you get what I mean.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
What was the name of the clockwork horse guy? He'd fit even better.

He was a generic engineer IIRC. The clockwork dobbin was an option for them in the 7th ed book.

EDIT- yup. https://miniset.net/sets/gw-99810202013

Heck, I think Ive seen some Warmahordes figures that would look more at home in 40k than this.

I'm afraid I'm going to be of the "meh" faction as well. The execution is passable, but the the idea and design I find to not really work for me in the first place.

I do find it curious that the one faction that's almost always had mandatory command squads for their army-general level characters didn't get one of those "party bases" like they did for Katakros, Szarekh, and the late Saint Katherine.

They should have had him mounted a in a salamander command tank with big old vox and a bunch of staffers cramed in and then we would have a new character model that fits in the army theme, a salamander command tank and a salamander scout tank kit.

Quasistellar wrote:
Huh, this just seems like a weird miss. I don't collect guard, but this doesn't fit in with the line *at all*.

Yeah. There's some interesting callbacks to the Guard art from Rogue Trader (and early 2nd), particularly the breastplate, but... that aesthetic is completely gone from the modern range.

At this point he looks like he'd fit better in an AoS Sigmarite army or the barely previewed Dawnbringer Crusade (or whatever its called).

An Attilan special character would have fit better than this. But at this point I expect random grab-bag pieces (that have no context or relationship to the product lines) from 40k releases.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
What was the name of the clockwork horse guy? He'd fit even better.

SOLARR
SOLARR

In a distant time
And far away place
The planet Terra floats deep in space
Domain of Emperor´s sons
Seat of galactic power
The Ceramite rush brought traitors, mutants & witches during humanity´s darkest hour

SOLARR
SOLARR

Then one day, a Lord Commander appeared
With powers of hawk, wolf, puma and bugbear
Protector of peace, square-jawed man from afar
Champion of justice, Lord Commander Solarr!

Solarr
SOLARR!
Eyes of the hawk, ears of the wolf

Solarr
SOLARR!
Strength of the bugbear, speed of the puma

Solarr
SOLARR!

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Warhammer Fans: This new model sucks! It's got way too many bits and bobs on it! It looks like it's from Star Craft, wtf? Woah GW, this model needs to look more generic for my conversions!

Also Warhammer Fans: This new model sucks! It's way too generic! It doesn't even look like it belongs in 40K, there are no identifying bits and bobs on it! This model needs to look more like [faction]! WTF GW?!

God you people are exhausting.

You realize there's literally a middle ground for models to fit in between those two comments, yes?

You realize my point is that no one on this forum is every happy with a model and every time one gets shown off, it's treated by some segment of the forums as if someone shot their dog, where as others think it's mediocre, or a great model that they cannot wait to buy. Every. Time.

If this model had been surrounded by a retinue of jetpack horses carrying servitor advisors, cherubs and body guards and on a 100MM base, covered head-to-toe in Aquilas, Cadian iconography and skulls, some segment of this forum would have been up in arms about how it's too fixated to one regiment at the expense of all the others. They'd say the model was too busy and that [component] looks off, awful, etc. It happens every single time. This time, instead of them showing off another mess like Constantin Valdor's FW model, they showed something more streamlined, restrained and regiment agnostic...something that should be welcomed by all of the "hobby modelers on here" because it's rife for conversions and enhancements to make it fit into your army the way you would want. Seriously, some of the very people who often complain about models being too specific and too difficult to convert, are in this thread now complain that something like this is too easy to convert and not specific enough. It is complaining for the sake of complaining.

Do I want one? No, not really. I'd like to have IG, but I like tanks and artilliery and heavy weapon teams. So this model, along with the Rough Riders just isn't for me. And that's fine.

Yeah, pretty disappointed by how generic this is, especially since we finally have a Lord Solar model for the guard again and we ended up losing Yarrick for this. Somehow even the old sculpt for Macharius had a better design concept than this. I could easily see the command post style diorama base with all the data nexuses and advisors be there and if they want combat options, have a couple of souped up Ogryn Bodyguards in there for protection.

Meh. It looks like an AoS model and doesn't fit the rest of the army, but I wonder how much of that is the GW catalog paint job? Would it look better if it was done by a decent painter with a better grasp of the 40k style? We'll see in a few weeks I guess.

On the good side I'm sure various third-party alternatives will be along shortly to take the lore/rules concept and provide a more appropriate model.

Eh, easy pass on this.

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I'm afraid I'm going to be of the "meh" faction as well. The execution is passable, but the the idea and design I find to not really work for me in the first place.

I do find it curious that the one faction that's almost always had mandatory command squads for their army-general level characters didn't get one of those "party bases" like they did for Katakros, Szarekh, and the late Saint Katherine.

Thankfully, they didn't. Because those party models are fething atrocious and obnoxious to use in a WARGAME.

I'll take this guy [Assuming he was mandatory] any day over those other pieces.

Aecus Decimus wrote:
Meh. It looks like an AoS model and doesn't fit the rest of the army, but I wonder how much of that is the GW catalog paint job? Would it look better if it was done by a decent painter with a better grasp of the 40k style? We'll see in a few weeks I guess.

On the good side I'm sure various third-party alternatives will be along shortly to take the lore/rules concept and provide a more appropriate model.

The paintjob is definitely a big part, but even the basic design like the head just feels very...uninspiring. It certainly won't be worth the usual centerpiece character price tag that GW likes to slap on for faction leaders.

 Togusa wrote:
You realize my point is that no one on this forum is every happy with a model and every time one gets shown off, it's treated by some segment of the forums as if someone shot their dog, where as others think it's mediocre, or a great model that they cannot wait to buy. Every. Time.

Shocking, a diverse group of people has a diverse range of opinions from "it sucks I hate it" to "I love it and can't wait to buy it". Did you have a point here, beyond stating the obvious?

Aecus Decimus wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
You realize my point is that no one on this forum is every happy with a model and every time one gets shown off, it's treated by some segment of the forums as if someone shot their dog, where as others think it's mediocre, or a great model that they cannot wait to buy. Every. Time.

Shocking, a diverse group of people has a diverse range of opinions from "it sucks I hate it" to "I love it and can't wait to buy it". Did you have a point here, beyond stating the obvious?

Re-read my post, there was a small part of the first paragraph that got left out which I reentered. My point specifically is that the same group of people who constantly complain about model releases which are too difficult to convert, are now in this thread complaining essentially that this model is too generic and most likely too easy to convert. Like it or don't, that's up to the individual.

 Togusa wrote:
Re-read my post, there was a small part of the first paragraph that got left out which I reentered. My point specifically is that the same group of people who constantly complain about model releases which are too difficult to convert, are now in this thread complaining essentially that this model is too generic and most likely too easy to convert. Like it or don't, that's up to the individual.

Is it the same group of people? Or is it group A complaining about conversion difficulty, group B complaining about it being too generic, and you generalizing both groups into "this forum" and assuming that everyone here is one monolithic group where everyone must be committed to the opinions of everyone else?

 Togusa wrote:


You realize my point is that no one on this forum is every happy with a model and every time one gets shown off, it's treated by some segment of the forums as if someone shot their dog, where as others think it's mediocre, or a great model that they cannot wait to buy. Every. Time.

I mean, you listed people who are enthusiastic, those who hate it and the people in the middle. Do you just want total apathy or something?

I get what they were going for with this, but if there was ever a model that deserved the mini diorama treatment in vein of Katakros or Saint Katherine, it's a Lord Solar.

 Togusa wrote:

Re-read my post, there was a small part of the first paragraph that got left out which I reentered. My point specifically is that the same group of people who constantly complain about model releases which are too difficult to convert, are now in this thread complaining essentially that this model is too generic and most likely too easy to convert. Like it or don't, that's up to the individual.

I'm going to have to start seeing some evidence to back up those accusations. Either put up or shut up.

EDIT

Nevermind.

Enjoy your model. Or don't.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
I get what they were going for with this, but if there was ever a model that deserved the mini diorama treatment in vein of Katakros or Saint Katherine, it's a Lord Solar.

I'm thinking they might be trying to get rid of those going forward. Kind of a shame if so.

Bit of a disappointment and an easy pass from me.

Lord Horseyman ain't doin' nuthin' for me. There's nothing very "40k" about him.

Again I must point out that the Basilisk is still using the same sprues that it had when I was in high school, but we got new Sentinel and this Horse fella. Sure...

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
What was the name of the clockwork horse guy? He'd fit even better.

SOLARR
SOLARR

In a distant time
And far away place
The planet Terra floats deep in space
Domain of Emperor´s sons
Seat of galactic power
The Ceramite rush brought traitors, mutants & witches during humanity´s darkest hour

SOLARR
SOLARR

Then one day, a Lord Commander appeared
With powers of hawk, wolf, puma and bugbear
Protector of peace, square-jawed man from afar
Champion of justice, Lord Commander Solarr!

Solarr
SOLARR!
Eyes of the hawk, ears of the wolf

Solarr
SOLARR!
Strength of the bugbear, speed of the puma

Solarr
SOLARR!

Amazing!

Thanks for this made my night!

Also, if his horse did what Bravestars horse did then that is very 40k!

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Awful model, totally off point with what it should be.

He should have attendants etc swarming all over him, feeding him data etc.

Aw you're making me weep for what could have been.

Lord Solar at a command table, surrounded by mentats, officers, and some honor guard guys.

As long as he's stationary he gets strategy points and issues 4 orders and whatever.

Or you can pull them off the display base and now you have Lord Solar and a couple of badass dudes looking to kick ass (but lose the big picture benefits).

Ah well.

Next edition.