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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/12 23:10:07
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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It isn't so much that one set is bad so the other must be good but that all of them were bad, but in different ways. I would definitely say Prometheus/Covenant were far more disappointing films. There weren't a lot of expectations for the AvP films (first was "eh, ok" and the second just awful) but the other two movies had massive amounts of talent/money behind them and came so close to being something great that screwing them up in such easily fixable ways was just a huge waste. Prometheus is such a beautifully shot film, with a good base idea, and well implemented fx but in the end it doesn't matter if you have a professional spelunker get lost in a mapped cave or a biologist playing around with unknown species like it is a Disney animal.
I didn't like Covenant that much when I saw it but, and I believe it was Manchu, pointed out it was essentially an old Mad Scientist film. People go to a deserted island and find a mad scientist doing some diabolical stuff. It does make a bit more sense in that context but still has to many issues of "person does pants on head dumb thing" and other bits that just torpedoed it. Looking at the original Alien and Aliens peoples actions made a lot more sense, even if they screwed up or it didn't work out.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/13 13:12:23
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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New Marvel Predator comic has a promising #1. I highly recommend checking it out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/10/16 07:38:31
Subject: Re:Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Mrs. GG and I finally got around to seeing this. Enjoyable. Not brilliant but not bad. Certainly better than most of the other Predator movies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 09:04:48
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Finally got to see it, and I think this is the best Predator film, even better than the Original.
It gave us a strong female lead, who didn't resort to being strong in a male way, but rather she used her wits and observation to her advantage. Very much in the same way Ripley stands out as a strong female character.
The film used people's knowledge of the previous films to do some truly brilliant misdirection. That was nice to see, the film wasn't treating the audience like idiots.
It has just the right amount of head nodds to the rest of the franchise, this is something modern sequels over do... and it is annoying as feck.
The lack of Bathos is also refreshing, that sadly seems to becoming an all too common occurrence in modern 'Geek' films.
The few minor points are the sausage fingers moment, which I think is to do with the lighting. The Predators face looked off, not quite right...but if we Humans have different faces, I can only imagine the Predators do to. So it can be rationalised.
Really hope this does well enough to be noticed. As it shows how to do a good film, and a good expansion of a franchise.
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The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 09:12:52
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Yeah. The rug pulls were solid misdirection, and not in a subverting expectations for the sake of looking cleverer than the audience way.
Seems the makers are keen to do more, and I myself am keen for them to do more!
Wikipedia, yes I know wrote: Prior to the film's release, Trachtenberg stated in June that there are discussions for additional installments to be developed after the release of Prey, saying their intent was to "do things that have not been done before" in the franchise.[63] In August, Bennett Taylor expressed interest in reprising his role as Raphael Adolini as "the pirate he is" in a potential prequel to Prey, serving as a loose adaptation of the 1996 comic book Predator: 1718 in which Adolini was introduced, reading it as research before shooting Prey, having aimed to "bring as much of [Raphael] into Prey that made sense".[64]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 09:36:16
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ireland
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Yeah. The rug pulls were solid misdirection, and not in a subverting expectations for the sake of looking cleverer than the audience way.
Seems the makers are keen to do more, and I myself am keen for them to do more!
Wikipedia, yes I know wrote: Prior to the film's release, Trachtenberg stated in June that there are discussions for additional installments to be developed after the release of Prey, saying their intent was to "do things that have not been done before" in the franchise.[63] In August, Bennett Taylor expressed interest in reprising his role as Raphael Adolini as "the pirate he is" in a potential prequel to Prey, serving as a loose adaptation of the 1996 comic book Predator: 1718 in which Adolini was introduced, reading it as research before shooting Prey, having aimed to "bring as much of [Raphael] into Prey that made sense".[64]
Would be well up for some more Predator films that have this level of skill. My big worry would ne how they may over do a good thing and we endup seeing the franchise end up eating itself again.
They need to extract what worked in this film, without just repeating it again and again. The concept of a Predator film is very bare bones: Predator shows up to hunt, Humans work out how to beat Predator, roll credits. What makes a good Predator film is how that is shown, and the world that is happens in. It sounds simple, but due to the bare bones nature it means it is a fine balance between getting it right, and getting it wrong.
Still, exciting times for an old (now I feel old) iconic 80's alien, that might be able to regain some credit... if only the Xenomorph could do the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 13:52:32
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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How do you do a prequel to Prey? This movie is already tagged as the Predators’ first hunt on Earth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 14:53:29
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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AduroT wrote:How do you do a prequel to Prey? This movie is already tagged as the Predators’ first hunt on Earth.
Space!
But also, I would just ignore that. There can be plenty of Preds hunting on earth throughout all time. Love to see a stone age or dino hunt predator.
feth... just image a dialog-less movie from the predators point of view hunting dinosaurs. fething just a hour and a half of trekking through the woods and killing big lizards.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 14:53:51
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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AduroT wrote:How do you do a prequel to Prey? This movie is already tagged as the Predators’ first hunt on Earth.
It can not be the Predators‘ first hunt on Earth if you consider previous canon such as in the Predator vs. Alien movies. Early Mesoamerica & South America I believe is referenced there if I remember correctly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 16:18:54
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ireland
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Lance845 wrote: AduroT wrote:How do you do a prequel to Prey? This movie is already tagged as the Predators’ first hunt on Earth.
Space!
But also, I would just ignore that. There can be plenty of Preds hunting on earth throughout all time. Love to see a stone age or dino hunt predator.
feth... just image a dialog-less movie from the predators point of view hunting dinosaurs. fething just a hour and a half of trekking through the woods and killing big lizards.
Yes, a thousand times Yes. That would be very entertaining... and I'm usually a fan of more dialogue less action in films.
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The objective of the game is to win. The point of the game is to have fun. The two should never be confused. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2029/05/27 04:16:34
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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stonehorse wrote: Lance845 wrote: AduroT wrote:How do you do a prequel to Prey? This movie is already tagged as the Predators’ first hunt on Earth.
Space!
But also, I would just ignore that. There can be plenty of Preds hunting on earth throughout all time. Love to see a stone age or dino hunt predator.
feth... just image a dialog-less movie from the predators point of view hunting dinosaurs. fething just a hour and a half of trekking through the woods and killing big lizards.
Yes, a thousand times Yes. That would be very entertaining... and I'm usually a fan of more dialogue less action in films.
Yes, I quite agree. Clever concept that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 17:33:59
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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One thing we as a movie audience don’t know is when a Predator would normally call a hunt ‘done’, as we’ve always seen them defeated and slain.
Yet, as we can see from Predator 2’s final scene? That’s not always the case, because trophy cabinets.
Imagine one where a Predator is tracking Slavers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 18:07:46
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:One thing we as a movie audience don’t know is when a Predator would normally call a hunt ‘done’, as we’ve always seen them defeated and slain.
Yet, as we can see from Predator 2’s final scene? That’s not always the case, because trophy cabinets.
Imagine one where a Predator is tracking Slavers?
Good call mate. Great premise that.
If you have not seen it, this is a fun fanfilm…
Predator: Dark Ages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRD8jAk274I
As is this untitled Pacific Theater WW2 Predator fanfilm… not as good mind you…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFbGV9UNSPw
And another WW2 Predator fanfilm, European Theater this time, I just stumbled across…. and this one is hokey, but considering we were talking about Predator plot premises….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqdsOwQxl_M
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 18:57:43
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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The dark ages fan film is actually quite good. I still remember it from years ago.
Would make a decent concept for a proper movie.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/11/24 22:30:18
Subject: Prey - a new Predator Movie. SPOILERS
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Marvel’s current Predator comic is pretty good so far. Set in the future in space. Predators take out a science expedition. Lone child survivor. Bit later she’s grown up and hunting them, looking for the one that killed her mother.
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