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 GaroRobe wrote:
Worst part of being a Word Bearer player is knowing that we'll probably be one of the last to get an upgrade set. Iron Hands and White Scars too, probably

Iirc ultramarines were the last to get a contemptor while thousand sons, blood angels, and custodes both got 2 different ones.

Dunno if it’s been flagged already, but U.K. Webstore has had a full Heresy pre-order restock.

At first i was disappointed in the Dark Angel helmets because they look a little too generic and very similar to the Imperial Fist helmets, but then I suppose that makes it easy to use both in the same army to differentiate between Terran veterans and Calibanite veterans.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Worst part of being a Word Bearer player is knowing that we'll probably be one of the last to get an upgrade set. Iron Hands and White Scars too, probably

Iirc ultramarines were the last to get a contemptor while thousand sons, blood angels, and custodes both got 2 different ones.

Fair. Though, the later a FW model is released, the better quality it is (usually). So that's a win for the UM

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Worst part of being a Word Bearer player is knowing that we'll probably be one of the last to get an upgrade set. Iron Hands and White Scars too, probably

*Empathises in Delaque*

Why'd ya have to bring that up....



My 18th is in a similar boat to my Delaque.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Dunno if it’s been flagged already, but U.K. Webstore has had a full Heresy pre-order restock.

US Webstore got at least a partial restock based on the email telling me the Kratos is back.

Racerguy180 wrote:

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Worst part of being a Word Bearer player is knowing that we'll probably be one of the last to get an upgrade set. Iron Hands and White Scars too, probably

*Empathises in Delaque*

Why'd ya have to bring that up....



My 18th is in a similar boat to my Delaque.

*giggles in Delaque mind games*

I do think that's a nice unhelmeted head from a sculpt perspective, I'm just not sure it fits as a Space Marine head, if that makes sense - where's the shouting face?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Dunno if it’s been flagged already, but U.K. Webstore has had a full Heresy pre-order restock.

US Webstore got at least a partial restock based on the email telling me the Kratos is back.

Just that and special weapons so far. Deimos Rhino and Mk3s and 4s are still out.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Worst part of being a Word Bearer player is knowing that we'll probably be one of the last to get an upgrade set. Iron Hands and White Scars too, probably

I gather you're assuming a "In Legion number release order" that works pretty well for the most part.

Group 1: Imp Fists and Sons of Horus
Group 2: Dark Angels & Emperor's Children
Group 3:Iron Warriors & White Scars
Group 4: Space Wolves & Night Lords
Group 5:Blood Angels & Iron Hands
Group 6: World Eaters & Ultramarines
Group 7: Deat h Guard & Thousand Sons
Group 8: Word Bearers and Salamanders
Group 9: Raven Guard and Alpha Legion.

Although if they wanna do a traitor/loyalist each time they'll have to tweek it around "grouping 5" or so

On the conversations of is Heresy going to be a success or not, I notice that the pre-order bonus tokens and cards are gone now.

From the T&C’s, they had 13,540 total available. Multiplied by £180 as a base and that’s a cool £2.4m GW are making from their web store alone. And that’s before you even consider any pre-orders from FLAGs, additional sales online since and any on the day sales in-store. Plus any additional sales of books, Marines & tanks.

This has certainly been a spectacular commercial success for GW at launch I would say, and I can’t see the momentum going in the short/mid term given the on-going support they’ve already announced.

BrianDavion wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Worst part of being a Word Bearer player is knowing that we'll probably be one of the last to get an upgrade set. Iron Hands and White Scars too, probably

I gather you're assuming a "In Legion number release order" that works pretty well for the most part.

Group 1: Imp Fists and Sons of Horus
Group 2: Dark Angels & Emperor's Children
Group 3:Iron Warriors & White Scars
Group 4: Space Wolves & Night Lords
Group 5:Blood Angels & Iron Hands
Group 6: World Eaters & Ultramarines
Group 7: Deat h Guard & Thousand Sons
Group 8: Word Bearers and Salamanders
Group 9: Raven Guard and Alpha Legion.

Although if they wanna do a traitor/loyalist each time they'll have to tweek it around "grouping 5" or so

I was going off popularity lol. For all we know, all the upgrade sets are ready. But they'll probably release/tease the most popular legions first. Didn't DA place number 1 on the Heresy poll? Plus given all their new FW goodies, they're probably very popular atm. Wouldn't be surprised to see Night Lords next week

I said it in the other thread but the legion upgrades should either just have been released together or should at least come in large chunks, but if not, legion order (ignoring the Fists and Sons) is the ‘best’ way really. At least then you have some idea of the wait.

Got my dispatch confirmation from Element, so looking good for Saturday.

I am excite!

 GaroRobe wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Worst part of being a Word Bearer player is knowing that we'll probably be one of the last to get an upgrade set. Iron Hands and White Scars too, probably

I gather you're assuming a "In Legion number release order" that works pretty well for the most part.

Group 1: Imp Fists and Sons of Horus
Group 2: Dark Angels & Emperor's Children
Group 3:Iron Warriors & White Scars
Group 4: Space Wolves & Night Lords
Group 5:Blood Angels & Iron Hands
Group 6: World Eaters & Ultramarines
Group 7: Deat h Guard & Thousand Sons
Group 8: Word Bearers and Salamanders
Group 9: Raven Guard and Alpha Legion.

Although if they wanna do a traitor/loyalist each time they'll have to tweek it around "grouping 5" or so

I was going off popularity lol. For all we know, all the upgrade sets are ready. But they'll probably release/tease the most popular legions first. Didn't DA place number 1 on the Heresy poll? Plus given all their new FW goodies, they're probably very popular atm. Wouldn't be surprised to see Night Lords next week

If it’s popularity going by the poll, Blood Angels are the next (Fists are already out) or Alpha Legion are the most popular Traitor if they wanted to alternate.

I saw a pop up in one of my HH discords purporting to show diagrams for plastic Leviathan upgrades for chapters.

 Togusa wrote:
I saw a pop up in one of my HH discords purporting to show diagrams for plastic Leviathan upgrades for chapters.

I can't speak for these guys, but I ordered from another company that I got a similar ad for, Tortuga, and the truescale Mk3 bodies are a delight.

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
I saw a pop up in one of my HH discords purporting to show diagrams for plastic Leviathan upgrades for chapters.

I can't speak for these guys, but I ordered from another company that I got a similar ad for, Tortuga, and the truescale Mk3 bodies are a delight.

So this isn't an official upgrade kit from GW then, this is third party stuff? The leaker on the discord was making it sound like this is an official product.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I said it in the other thread but the legion upgrades should either just have been released together or should at least come in large chunks, but if not, legion order (ignoring the Fists and Sons) is the ‘best’ way really. At least then you have some idea of the wait.

Few months at most going from current rate isn't it?

 Togusa wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
I saw a pop up in one of my HH discords purporting to show diagrams for plastic Leviathan upgrades for chapters.

I can't speak for these guys, but I ordered from another company that I got a similar ad for, Tortuga, and the truescale Mk3 bodies are a delight.

So this isn't an official upgrade kit from GW then, this is third party stuff? The leaker on the discord was making it sound like this is an official product.

Yup, Liber Daemonica are a 3rd party bits designer - a rather nice one, in fact, heavy on the gothic.

 arkhanist wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
I saw a pop up in one of my HH discords purporting to show diagrams for plastic Leviathan upgrades for chapters.

I can't speak for these guys, but I ordered from another company that I got a similar ad for, Tortuga, and the truescale Mk3 bodies are a delight.

So this isn't an official upgrade kit from GW then, this is third party stuff? The leaker on the discord was making it sound like this is an official product.

Yup, Liber Daemonica are a 3rd party bits designer - a rather nice one, in fact, heavy on the gothic.

When I get my tax return I plan to peruse those guys for some bitz. I need to order even more bodies from Tortuga though!

Removed - Rule #1

DA heads look good. Hopefully EC are up next

 Marshal Loss wrote:
DA heads look good. Hopefully EC are up next

I wonder what the ratio of EC beakie to non-beakie is gonna be?

Racerguy180 wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
DA heads look good. Hopefully EC are up next

I wonder what the ratio of EC beakie to non-beakie is gonna be?

Hopefully low. I like helmetless heads. Although that said I would like some EC specific helmets if I'm going to paint most of the new stuff up as EC.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Incredible how a regular 3rd party creator can advertise their wares in a perfectly normal manner and some imbecile* interprets it as an official GW kit.

*to be clear, I mean Togusa's source, not them

Yeah, I took this back to the discord and called it out and he's still insisting this isn't 3rd party.

 Togusa wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Incredible how a regular 3rd party creator can advertise their wares in a perfectly normal manner and some imbecile* interprets it as an official GW kit.

*to be clear, I mean Togusa's source, not them

Yeah, I took this back to the discord and called it out and he's still insisting this isn't 3rd party.

Sounds like someone's in denial that they could even possibly be that dumb...

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Worst part of being a Word Bearer player is knowing that we'll probably be one of the last to get an upgrade set. Iron Hands and White Scars too, probably

*Empathises in Delaque*

That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that. We are still waiting for new Delaque minis.

 Gert wrote:
And the SoH, EC, and NL MkIV kits all look like MkIV, same with the Fists MkIII, Ravens MkVI and WE MkII.
The majority of upgrade kits with a stated armour pattern look like that pattern. I'm not complaining that these don't look like MkVI, I just find it funny that they don't and yet are marketed as MkVI. Calling them (?) Legion upgrade kit would have made more sense and have the pads specifically labelled.

They're probably marketed as such because apparently the heads for the plastic MkVI are slightly smaller than previous ones.

Not even sure if people know yet...but as relatively new(returners) to 40k...is the HH game pretty similar rules or is it basically learning a new game?

Tempted due to the Rogue Trader look taking me back to 1987 when I first saw 40k on a table in GW Sheffield.