Horus Heresy / 30K N&R

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**Strg Alt**

angel of death 007 wrote:
I have been looking at starting Horus Heresy but I have a feeling it will follow the GW regular codex crap. I know right now they did those Liber Astartes and Liber Hereticus but that reminds me of when they came out with a new release of 40k and did those indexes which were only good for like a few months while they released codexes for each army.

Honestly the box set looks like a decent value or starting point but I am still kinda fearing GW will do the GW thing.

Anyone know if they will go the codex route with HH?

Those two main books are your army books. Do you really think each single legion will get a dedicated book? That would be 18 books! No one will support such crap in the community. It would be even worse than Bookromunda.
We will get in a couple of months Cults/Militia and Mechanicum. And that´s it. There will be no need to turn your gaming room into a library. This is the main advantage of 30K over 40K: Less factions which warrant more fun.

**Platuan4th**

Da Butcha wrote:

Oddly enough, however, the instructions on their resin models are completely non-existent. I thought FW assembly diagrams were bad until I got models that have none whatsoever and you have to look at their web site and see where they say two parts go together. It's like they took the huge expense of creating B&W assembly sheets and photocopying them and reinvested into high quality resin casting.

Pretty much true until recently. Picked up a couple of Interemptor sets and was shocked when I opened the box and there was an honest to god, actual instructions booklet with a detailed diagram for each model complete with part numbering.

**axotl**

Yeah I want to be clear - FW support aside from one individual is really good. It's the processes they use to do their casting that aren't great as others have mentioned. They just must not be able to at the scale GW is at. Or different teams have different quality levels. Like, Aeronautica stuff is all better quality than Titanicus stuff. The molds are less full of slips and dings and dents. Maybe just less traffic, not sure.

**lord_blackfang**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/07/heresy-thursday-make-your-emperors-children-even-more-perfect-with-new-upgrade-packs/

Lovely stuff for the self important pricks

**blood reaper**

First armour pack that looks good. God damn, those are great!

**JSG**

lord_blackfang wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/07/heresy-thursday-make-your-emperors-children-even-more-perfect-with-new-upgrade-packs/

Lovely stuff for the self important pricks

Very nice but should still be plastic.

**Voss**

Like the pads. Not a fan of the tiaras, though the 'gladiator' mask is quite nice.

**queen_annes_revenge**

No Lucius 😞

**zedmeister**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
No Lucius 😞

Lucius was shown a while back

Remember, these are previews of unseen models

**H.B.M.C.**

Those are very nice helmets/pads.

**Matrindur**

Nice that they actually showed a model with the new heads this time but sad since until today it alternated between new models and upgrade packs so I expected the Proteus today

**The Phazer**

Those are the first ones that seem to coherently fit with the Mark VI kit.

They're great.

**queen_annes_revenge**

Yeah I know he was shown. I'm eagerly awaiting an actual release. I was hoping he'd be released with the upgrades.

**zedmeister**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Yeah I know he was shown. I'm eagerly awaiting an actual release. I was hoping he'd be released with the upgrades.

Sundays are when we'll find out

**queen_annes_revenge**

Ugh. Why is their release system so complicated

**Sacredroach**

Looks like I'll need several of those packs...really great head options.

**Matrindur**

Seems like somebody made a mistake and uploaded the plastic Predator trailer

Spoiler:

Full trailer in Valraks video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRRxCTpeNGU

**beast_gts**

Matrindur wrote:
Seems like somebody made a mistake and uploaded the plastic Predator trailer

So no Infernus (melta/flamer) or Executioner (plasma/beamer) variants.

**lord_blackfang**

beast_gts wrote:
Matrindur wrote:
Seems like somebody made a mistake and uploaded the plastic Predator trailer
So no Infernus (melta/flamer) or Executioner (plasma/beamer) variants.

Guessing there's gonna be two different weapon sprues with two different boxes, like AT titans (or, for that matter, the two old metal/plastic Predators)

**beast_gts**

lord_blackfang wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
Matrindur wrote:
Seems like somebody made a mistake and uploaded the plastic Predator trailer
So no Infernus (melta/flamer) or Executioner (plasma/beamer) variants.

Guessing there's gonna be two different weapon sprues with two different boxes, like AT titans (or, for that matter, the two old metal/plastic Predators)

Yeah, like the Leviathan (did they actually officially announce that?)

**GaroRobe**

The Phazer wrote:
Those are the first ones that seem to coherently fit with the Mark VI kit.

They're great.

The iron warriors lack beaks, but they’re also intended to be MK 6. They have the lights on the helmet, for example. As for the rest…

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

beast_gts wrote:
Matrindur wrote:
Seems like somebody made a mistake and uploaded the plastic Predator trailer
So no Infernus (melta/flamer) or Executioner (plasma/beamer) variants.

Not that we’ve seen so far. But remember the Leviathan was shown off with limited weapons, so there may be a further Predator kit coming too.

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And hopefully we’ll get more infantry options soon too. Assault Squad at least would be nice. Love me some tanks and Dreads, but we still need a decent suite of infantry for game variety.

**Not Online!!!**

I absolutly think i will need 2-3. Depending of course on the pricetag.

**Gert**

Man the entitlement is real. Can't be happy with one vehicle kit containing half the turret options and all the sponson options, when before you had a choice of two per set on both counts.

I'm gonna need three with all of the choom cannons.

**Togusa**

Finally! Confirmation of the Pred. I'm such a vulkite slut! Those turrets look great.

**beast_gts**

Gert wrote:
Man the entitlement is real.

Oh yeah!

I'm trying to see if there's a pattern - the Contemptor will have all of it's options in the box (like the Kratos) while the Leviathan looks like it's split into a shooty kit and a puchy kit. Will we end up with three Predator kits, or are they going to combine the Infernus / Executioner? Will the Vindicator kit have both the Demolisher Cannon and Laser Destroyer? What about the Sicaran variants?

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And hopefully we’ll get more infantry options soon too. Assault Squad at least would be nice.

Breachers please!

**queen_annes_revenge**

Ah jeez so it's not even that those upgrades are available this weekend? It's just a reveal. I'm going to stop trying to follow releases. Just annoying.

**AllSeeingSkink**

Gert wrote:
Man the entitlement is real. Can't be happy with one vehicle kit containing half the turret options and all the sponson options, when before you had a choice of two per set on both counts.

I didn't hear people being unhappy, just discussing the possibility that it might be the situation.

As for me, it looks cool I guess, basically what I was expecting. I've always liked Predators since I started back in 2nd edition but never had the money to buy the metal turreted versions.

**beast_gts**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Ah jeez so it's not even that those upgrades are available this weekend? It's just a reveal. I'm going to stop trying to follow releases. Just annoying.

FWIW - My local GW manager thinks they're going to do a wave/bulk release every few months rather than dripping stuff out.

**lord_blackfang**

I've seen no complaints, only observations. I'm personally very fine with a tank box having only, like, 5 main turret options. Beats the 1 per box we had when I was a teen.