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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 09:29:58
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Huge Bone Giant
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Surprisingly the Praetors are £19. I mean, that’s still a lot for a character model, but if memory serves compares favourably with 40K?
Surprising indeed. It's less than the cheaper Marine character clampacks were before this year's price hike.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 11:39:40
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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The Heresy prices do tend to…I don’t wanna say impress as that’s not the right word. Perhaps surprise?
I mean GW being GW nobody could say they’re cheap. And value is of course so subjective when it comes to a hobby there’s no point arguing perceptions thereof.
But….perhaps reasonable is the word? Especially if we can get our toys at a discount.
I mean, a Legion Specific Chassis from FW is £42, £6 more than the plastic replete with One Of Each Weapon. And if my sums and assumptions are correct, I’ll be able to get them from Darksphere at 25% discount, which is £27.
As I said, still not cheap by anyone’s honest reckoning. But overall a pretty palatable price in GBP. Other territories will of course vary.
I’m not even terribly sure I’d be in the market for buying extra weapons, as given I’m buying multiple Contemptors, I’ll have a decent amount of weapons to magnetise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 11:46:20
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Barpharanges
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:The Heresy prices do tend to…I don’t wanna say impress as that’s not the right word. Perhaps surprise?
I mean GW being GW nobody could say they’re cheap. And value is of course so subjective when it comes to a hobby there’s no point arguing perceptions thereof.
But….perhaps reasonable is the word? Especially if we can get our toys at a discount.
I mean, a Legion Specific Chassis from FW is £42, £6 more than the plastic replete with One Of Each Weapon. And if my sums and assumptions are correct, I’ll be able to get them from Darksphere at 25% discount, which is £27.
As I said, still not cheap by anyone’s honest reckoning. But overall a pretty palatable price in GBP. Other territories will of course vary.
I’m not even terribly sure I’d be in the market for buying extra weapons, as given I’m buying multiple Contemptors, I’ll have a decent amount of weapons to magnetise.
I'd say they're reasonable compared to FW prices, that's certainly true. My biggest issue is a lot is direct only - Terminators, for example; I assume these will be direct only, like MKIIIs and MIVs.
IMO, the cost for stuff like Leviathans seems fine because I can't imagine buying multiple Leviathans.
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The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 11:48:13
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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blood reaper wrote:My biggest issue is a lot is direct only - Terminators, for example; I assume these will be direct only, like MKIIIs and MIVs.
They're on the distributor price list tneva82 posted, so they're not direct only. Looks like the dreadnought weapon arms are, which was expected.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 11:54:18
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Even without comparing to FW prices, which always skews tnings, the Contemptor for £27 is reasonable. That it’s a fraction of the resin equivalent is just icing to me
Here’s hoping we do get more and more in plastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 11:55:11
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:The Heresy prices do tend to…I don’t wanna say impress as that’s not the right word. Perhaps surprise?
I mean GW being GW nobody could say they’re cheap. And value is of course so subjective when it comes to a hobby there’s no point arguing perceptions thereof.
But….perhaps reasonable is the word? Especially if we can get our toys at a discount.
I mean, a Legion Specific Chassis from FW is £42, £6 more than the plastic replete with One Of Each Weapon. And if my sums and assumptions are correct, I’ll be able to get them from Darksphere at 25% discount, which is £27.
As I said, still not cheap by anyone’s honest reckoning. But overall a pretty palatable price in GBP. Other territories will of course vary.
I’m not even terribly sure I’d be in the market for buying extra weapons, as given I’m buying multiple Contemptors, I’ll have a decent amount of weapons to magnetise.
Things like the Deimos pattern Rhino are a good indicator of this too. It's only a £2 saving on the 40K rhino (pre-discount) but it's still a mildly pleasant surprise to see that something directly comparable manages to be a much newer kit yet also cheaper. Some of this is down to number of sprues of course; the Deimos has less but makes far more efficient use of the space.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 12:01:52
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Particularly as the Rhino is cheap in terms of points. Again if I go to Darksphere (other online discounters are available) that £28 drops to £21….which is….staggeringly cheap for a GW kit in the modern day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 12:06:33
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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No razorback option though. It's cheaper only if you build pure 30k. Reqular kit gives access to 30k&40k rhino and razorback
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 12:11:25
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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tneva82 wrote:No razorback option though. It's cheaper only if you build pure 30k. Reqular kit gives access to 30k& 40k rhino and razorback
That's fair, I hadn't noticed it was a dual kit. Pure 30K is definitely my point of reference here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 12:41:53
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Sob rhino is better comparison. Sob got short end of a stick with paying lot for cosmetic bling.
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 12:46:32
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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I think you are supposed to collect 3~4 more legions you don't already own.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 12:55:11
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Terrifying Doombull
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I think its just easier to get into the game.
Whether you replace models or buy more legions is your call.
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 13:22:14
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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It’s also made certain builds more financially viable.
Fury of the Ancients for instance. Without breaking out me books to do a quick points rundown, let’s say the backbone you always envisaged was 10 Contemptors. 1 for HQ, 9 as Troops in squadrons of 3.
Right now? Anywhere from £270 to £360 depending on where you buy.
Previously? £420 just for the chassis. And as they’re no longer on FW, I can’t give an exact price for the arms, but I think they were £16 each? So that’s another £320 on top.
Same with the Sicaran and Leviathan. Still not cheap, but considerably more affordable.
Yes we’re yet to see anything like a majority of Heresy units come out plastic and that sweeter price point, but it’s still pretty popular stuff we’re getting
I mean, if you’re proper mental, you can now get 10 Contemptors from Darksphere and two Fellblades from FW for the same rough price you’d previously spend on the 10 Contemptors.
No. Stop looking at me like that. I’m not doing it. I’m not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 13:58:09
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Raging Rat Ogre
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:It’s also made certain builds more financially viable.
Fury of the Ancients for instance. Without breaking out me books to do a quick points rundown, let’s say the backbone you always envisaged was 10 Contemptors. 1 for HQ, 9 as Troops in squadrons of 3.
Right now? Anywhere from £270 to £360 depending on where you buy.
Previously? £420 just for the chassis. And as they’re no longer on FW, I can’t give an exact price for the arms, but I think they were £16 each? So that’s another £320 on top.
Same with the Sicaran and Leviathan. Still not cheap, but considerably more affordable.
Yes we’re yet to see anything like a majority of Heresy units come out plastic and that sweeter price point, but it’s still pretty popular stuff we’re getting
I mean, if you’re proper mental, you can now get 10 Contemptors from Darksphere and two Fellblades from FW for the same rough price you’d previously spend on the 10 Contemptors.
No. Stop looking at me like that. I’m not doing it. I’m not.
Well, I do already have a Fellblade and 7 Contemptors (2x BoC, 2x EC, 3x AoD)...hmmm
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Urusei Yatsura, Cerebus the Aardvark, Machiavelli, Plato and Happy Days. So, how was your childhood?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 14:06:21
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 14:06:49
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Fury of the Ancients for instance. Without breaking out me books to do a quick points rundown, let’s say the backbone you always envisaged was 10 Contemptors. 1 for HQ, 9 as Troops in squadrons of 3.
Going OT for a sec - 7 is the magic number, as only the 2 Compulsory Troop slots get Line. There's nothing stopping you taking more, but you'll need to keep track of which ones have Line. I've been filling my list out with Castra Ferrum Dreadnoughts instead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 14:12:51
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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I like the unhelmeted World Eater head. He's so happy to be engaging in mass slaughter. Good for him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 14:15:32
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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What a quality whiplash from the Space Furries one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 14:19:45
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Dakka Veteran
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Those are fantastic, possibly the best ones yet and they're far from my favourite Legion aesthetically. Looks particularly good on the painted full model example with the red faceplate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 14:20:01
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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Indeed, lovely lovely helms.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 14:20:05
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I hope they start doing these reveals more frequently. its nice to not have to wait till Thursday.
Maybe they knew we need a SW-upgrade palate cleanser
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 14:22:51
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Ah cool. I've been waiting for these, as WE is my HH army:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 14:35:20
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Sarum pattern helmets...finally!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 14:45:30
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Are they different than the ones the SoH got? They look visually similar (maybe its just the random pieces of colored metal they had to the forehead
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 15:10:54
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Article says Model preview at Thor's Day...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 15:23:26
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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GaroRobe wrote:
Are they different than the ones the SoH got? They look visually similar (maybe its just the random pieces of colored metal they had to the forehead
The snout is different, and it's the snout that really defines Sarum pattern. Which looks a lot like a standard Mk 7 helmet, but with a flatter face.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 15:24:36
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Think they’re my favourite upgrades so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 16:29:38
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Looks pretty good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 16:55:51
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Love the laughing face. Definitely be getting one of those.
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Heresy World Eaters/Emperors Children
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/08/08 17:04:47
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Breaking up the grill for that snarling teeth look is such a simple, clever thing that I'm surprised we haven't seen it before.
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