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Ah yes forgot the Arquitors and Sabres too.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're really saving any new infantry for a second big box late in the year, with a tax of including a few of the by then "old" tanks if you want it sooner than 2024.

Another tank, Im shocked, shocked I tell you...


You guys know the quote. Neat model, laser destroyer is gonna be useful.


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Another tank, Im shocked, shocked I tell you...


You guys know the quote. Neat model, laser destroyer is gonna be useful.

One more Rhino chassis tank to go and FW can retire all those molds - the Damocles Command Rhino. I expect that getting rid of those resin molds is a priority when they’re so close to being done. The Deathstorm and Dreadclaw are both hybrid kits, as are the Storm Eagle/Fire Raptor. I’d expect those before the Arquitor and Sabre.

Erren wrote:
One more Rhino chassis tank to go and FW can retire all those molds - the Damocles Command Rhino. I expect that getting rid of those resin molds is a priority when they’re so close to being done. The Deathstorm and Dreadclaw are both hybrid kits, as are the Storm Eagle/Fire Raptor. I’d expect those before the Arquitor and Sabre.

The Storm Eagle is also a kit with a reputation for being really gakky to build because of warping etc., removing that would be extremely good.

Nice new tanks.

They can retire the Rhino hull molds yesterday, just throw the resin Damocles dish in with a plastic Rhino.

 Strg Alt wrote:
Nice new tanks.

You're welcome

I do prefer this Vindicator to the 40K one. Both are nice like, but the Heresy one just looks…meaner, less subtle.

a dual kit rhino variant, nice! Not my cuppa but if it was, I'd try kitbashing a Vindicator using this chassis and the 40K variant's cannon/dozer. The laser variant looks OK as it is.

Land Raider IIB going LCTB? hmm.. there was a rumour on B&CS about the 40K Land Raider going OOP.. what if GW is reintroducing a new, dual kit Land Raider/LR IIB kit? which can be used for 40K as well as 30K?

 tauist wrote:


Land Raider IIB going LCTB? hmm.. there was a rumour on B&CS about the 40K Land Raider going OOP.. what if GW is reintroducing a new, dual kit Land Raider/LR IIB kit? which can be used for 40K as well as 30K?

I had the same thought. I certainly see them combining LR variants into one box a la the Leman Russ, they might go ahead and stick in a IIB variant as well.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They can retire the Rhino hull molds yesterday, just throw the resin Damocles dish in with a plastic Rhino.

Even if the current Damocles specific top hatches don't fit the plastic version, it'd be fairly trivial for them to create a new one so they can replace it with a cheap conversion kit.

 zedmeister wrote:
Got three more Sicaran turrets and possibly the 3 Arquitor variants and then the Sabre. Deredeo is a definite I reckon. Aircraft will probably come a bit later I think

If I had to guess on an order..

Sicaran variants, then Deredeo, then things like the Arquitor and Sabre, since those are relatively new resin kits.

AND THEN plastic assault marines.

Hey, look, the Vindicator Laser Destroyer. Of all the tanks, that was the one I was hoping for.

Sweet.

Maybe some infantry next time, though?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe some infantry next time, though?

Hey now let's not get kuh-ray-zee

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hey, look, the Vindicator Laser Destroyer. Of all the tanks, that was the one I was hoping for.

Sweet.

Maybe some infantry next time, though?

Infantry?! Madness!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I do prefer this Vindicator to the 40K one. Both are nice like, but the Heresy one just looks…meaner, less subtle.

I agree. And I like all the tubing etc on the laser version, as if it's still a bit experimental and jerrybuilt. As I've said before, this (to me) is what WH40k should look like as well.

I'd be surprised to see the Land Raider IIB resurface.

Unlike most of you, I don't really 'get' the Sabre. It doesn't look like the kind of vehicle that the Heresy-era Marines would have bothered with. And in appearance it's too much like a mini-Land Raider (although it's an improvement on the original, which was an especially horrible Rhino conversion). I hope it's not high on the list of plastic vehicles. From a modelling perspective (apart from plastic assault infantry) I'd prefer to see a speeder in plastic.

drbored wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Got three more Sicaran turrets and possibly the 3 Arquitor variants and then the Sabre. Deredeo is a definite I reckon. Aircraft will probably come a bit later I think

If I had to guess on an order..

Sicaran variants, then Deredeo, then things like the Arquitor and Sabre, since those are relatively new resin kits.

AND THEN plastic assault marines.

Don't forget the Javelin.

Aye, Land Speeders and Javelins to complement the Sky hunters. Problem with those two is that their sprues can't be used in other vehicle variants, and we know how stingy HH2 has been with sprue counts..

Hm, coming from 40k, I always loved the vindicator. The absurdly huge canon up front and simple "no extras or sponsons" approach. But in 30k is just another tank, following the formula of lots of other stuff with the same role.
Still A really nice tank, just sad to see the siege shield didnt make it though.

I don't know why you'd even use a standard vindicator with how badly they mauled the rules. Whoever wrote this edition wanted no marines getting hit with ap2 or 3 templates unless its a damned superheavy.

 tauist wrote:
Aye, Land Speeders and Javelins to complement the Sky hunters. Problem with those two is that their sprues can't be used in other vehicle variants, and we know how stingy HH2 has been with sprue counts..

The Javelin can use the vehicle sponson sprue for some weapon options, and they could design the crew to be interchangeable between the Javelin and land speeder with a few tweaks. They are also smaller vehicles, so could possibly fit on a single tank sprue or a few dreadnought sprues

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Aye, Land Speeders and Javelins to complement the Sky hunters. Problem with those two is that their sprues can't be used in other vehicle variants, and we know how stingy HH2 has been with sprue counts..

The Javelin can use the vehicle sponson sprue for some weapon options, and they could design the crew to be interchangeable between the Javelin and land speeder with a few tweaks. They are also smaller vehicles, so could possibly fit on a single tank sprue or a few dreadnought sprues

Ah, indeed didn't realize the crew sprue could be interchangable. Good call

I don't think we'll ever see the flying couch speeder in plastic.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 tauist wrote:
Aye, Land Speeders and Javelins to complement the Sky hunters. Problem with those two is that their sprues can't be used in other vehicle variants, and we know how stingy HH2 has been with sprue counts..

The Javelin can use the vehicle sponson sprue for some weapon options, and they could design the crew to be interchangeable between the Javelin and land speeder with a few tweaks. They are also smaller vehicles, so could possibly fit on a single tank sprue or a few dreadnought sprues

Just checking the unit entry, and the Javelin can swap out its cyclone missile launcher for Lascannon or Volkite.

Currently, you can only get a model with cyclone or Lascannon. So if the Volkite option is new? Pretty good bet it is coming to plastic.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
I don't know why you'd even use a standard vindicator with how badly they mauled the rules. Whoever wrote this edition wanted no marines getting hit with ap2 or 3 templates unless its a damned superheavy.

The Vindicator does have an AP3 blast, with rending 6+. Plus, with Brutal 3, it's not *terrible* at killing 2+ save models as they have 3 chances to fail for each wound they've taken.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
I don't know why you'd even use a standard vindicator with how badly they mauled the rules. Whoever wrote this edition wanted no marines getting hit with ap2 or 3 templates unless its a damned superheavy.

Let's see...

Effective against multi wound power armour so that's vets, legion elites and gal vorbak. Cause 3 instant death wounds with no armour saves against castellax, vorax and myrmidons, 3 no save armour save wounds against domitars and arlatax...

They also cause 3 saves against terminators that if you fail one you're just flat out dead against. (Admittedly difficult against cataphractii unless you get a rend, in which case it's pretty much a confirmed kill)

Also although they won't one hit a vehicle, they will almost certainly cause a hull point , since they glance av13 on a 1, and get to roll 2d6 pick the highest

Yeah vindicators are great

Bobug wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
I don't know why you'd even use a standard vindicator with how badly they mauled the rules. Whoever wrote this edition wanted no marines getting hit with ap2 or 3 templates unless its a damned superheavy.

Let's see...

Effective against multi wound power armour so that's vets, legion elites and gal vorbak. Cause 3 instant death wounds with no armour saves against castellax, vorax and myrmidons, 3 no save armour save wounds against domitars and arlatax...

They also cause 3 saves against terminators that if you fail one you're just flat out dead against. (Admittedly difficult against cataphractii unless you get a rend, in which case it's pretty much a confirmed kill)

Also although they won't one hit a vehicle, they will almost certainly cause a hull point , since they glance av13 on a 1, and get to roll 2d6 pick the highest

Yeah vindicators are great

Vindicators are cheap, which is a factor one should not overlook.

They're also a bit tougher than a pred and are reinforced I believe. They've got it all going on

One Typhon Heavy Siege Tank or Three Vindicators – Who Would Win?

Dig the plastic Vindicator. But ok, time for some infantry now, gw. And maybe those Daemons of the Ruinstorm/Cults and Militia rules? Esoterist needs something to summon, doesn't he?