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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve got…erm….110 MkVI, maybe more. I don’t need 40 MkIII

Though they would also look cool with Heavy Bolters, which I also


DAMMIT STOP THAT! Dirty boy, in your bed, on your rug!

Good news, there's only 30 in the special box. There go all your defenses.

Or 2 boxes and 60=/= 40 so you are fine

chaos0xomega wrote:Yep, just saw confirmation it is limited. Oh boy. My wallet. This is going to be a week that hurts between the book, the box (ideally 3 of them >.> ), the commemorative Votann, the Dark Coil collection, and the Rogue Trader reprint.

Oh, I'm definitely getting the reprint. Now I need them to do an MTO of the Realm of Chaos books. Which I used to have back in the day, but foolishly sold off.

lord_blackfang wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kind of wish I hadn’t built my Volkite squad now, as I think MkIII is incredibly well suited to that weapon.

But, I do have 10 flamers, and the smaller Volkite on sprue.

Hmmm. Have I just talked myself into a box?

If you get two big boxen you'll have an extra special weapon kit

Assuming they don't all sell out in less than 5 minutes.

I'm guessing that we will see a second deredeo kit later with the lascannon and volkite arms, and either the boreal or the long awaited atomantic pavise option like the other dreadnoughts with their 2 weapon sprues

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve got…erm….110 MkVI, maybe more. I don’t need 40 MkIII

If its any consolation, I have like six boxes of the MK6 upgrade heads for white scars sitting at home, and 1 for word bearers. So now I need to buy at least 70 mk6 marines. And I just know there are going to be ever cooler Mk3 heads released from FW...

Speaking of FW, does anyone know what a thrme terminator axe from the Sons of Horus: Armoury of the Sons of Horus is supposed to go to? I assume its cataphractii, but I don't think the plastic kit ever had an armless hand

Has there been any mention (or hint) of plastic sabres or speeders?

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve got…erm….110 MkVI, maybe more. I don’t need 40 MkIII

If its any consolation, I have like six boxes of the MK6 upgrade heads for white scars sitting at home, and 1 for word bearers. So now I need to buy at least 70 mk6 marines. And I just know there are going to be ever cooler Mk3 heads released from FW...

Speaking of FW, does anyone know what a thrme terminator axe from the Sons of Horus: Armoury of the Sons of Horus is supposed to go to? I assume its cataphractii, but I don't think the plastic kit ever had an armless hand

The resin ones had a lot of armless hands, it might be there.

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve got…erm….110 MkVI, maybe more. I don’t need 40 MkIII

If its any consolation, I have like six boxes of the MK6 upgrade heads for white scars sitting at home, and 1 for word bearers. So now I need to buy at least 70 mk6 marines. And I just know there are going to be ever cooler Mk3 heads released from FW...

Speaking of FW, does anyone know what a thrme terminator axe from the Sons of Horus: Armoury of the Sons of Horus is supposed to go to? I assume its cataphractii, but I don't think the plastic kit ever had an armless hand

The resin Cataphractii weapon sets also have empty left arms for melee.

The resin ones had a lot of armless hands, it might be there.

Prices:
Battle group box £125/160€
Deredeo £50/65€
MkIII box £45/60€

Interesting that the MKIII are £5/5€ cheaper than the MKVI as the only difference I can think of would be if they don't include the chain bayonets (or only have a single accessory sprue which is unlikely)

We can see from the pictures there's a Vexilla for every 10 guys in both the squad and the battle group.

So Deredeo 65€ + 1 and1/2 Squads 90€ + 1/2 Special Weapons box 18€ + LR Proteus 70€ = 243€, bundle 160€, one third savings.

Basically the existing stuff (LR and gun sprue) is free with purchase of new releases. Would be nice if they made this a habit.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
We can see from the pictures there's a Vexilla for every 10 guys in both the squad and the battle group.

There are three vexillas in the Battlegroup shot but only one in the squad box, at least on the WarCom image. Which doesn't mean anything on its own as the MKVI image on the webstore also only shows one and they even say you can build two 10-model Tactical Squads in the WarCom article which wouldn't be possible without two sprues.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:

Basically the existing stuff (LR and gun sprue) is free with purchase of new releases. Would be nice if they made this a habit.

And they didn't even lock the new stuff to the box for a while. This is basically the best kind of release, everything is available separately but if you buy all of the new stuff right now you get other stuff for free.

I guess the fact that we have the price today also means that the boxed set is not a GW exclusive, which I was worried it might be?

Nope. Gonna be a good boy. Just a brace of Deredeo for me. In due course.

Still got Jetbikes and a second Leviathan to build.

Tavis75 wrote:
I guess the fact that we have the price today also means that the boxed set is not a GW exclusive, which I was worried it might be?

Apparently it is a limited time release though.

https://reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/s/5zaPXvwTul

GW exclusive = direct only/not available through retailers. Different from limited time release.

Ruinstorm Daemons Legacies are up!

Well. This looks pretty nice in the list building department... but on the table... an army where the base weapon has Brutal (2) looks incredibly impractical to resolve...

Was the Deamon army list more customizable in the first edition ? I never played them or against them but I have the feeling there were more options

The one army I look at and think 3d printer goes brrr is the only sensible answer

So…erm…what size are each of the Daemon types, do we reckon?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So…erm…what size are each of the Daemon types, do we reckon?

This is from the original (1st Ed) list:

Ruinstorm Daemon Lord - 130mm base

Ruinstorm Greater Daemon - 130mm

Ruinstorm Daemon Chosen - 32mm

Ruinstorm Daemon Brute - 50mm

Ruinstorm Lesser Daemons - 32mm

Ruinstorm Daemon Beasts - 40mm

Ruinstorm Daemon Swarms - 40mm

Ruinstorm Possessed - 32mm (Legionary), 25mm (Auxiliary)

Ruinstorm Daemon Cavalry - 70mm x 25mm oval bases

Ruinstorm Daemon Shrikes - 60mm

Ruinstorm Greater Daemon Beasts - 100mm

Ruinstorm Daemon Behemoth - 170mm x 105mm oval base

Officially?
Use GW models that would roughly align e.g Lessers being Bloodletters, Swarms being Nurglings, Cavalry being Seekers.

Unofficially?
Do what you want just take the mick.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Well. This looks pretty nice in the list building department... but on the table... an army where the base weapon has Brutal (2) looks incredibly impractical to resolve...

Well that's wrong, the base weapon is the daemonic armament which is only max of ap3 on a 6 to wound and no brutal

My mistake, they just all blurred together.

That makes lesser daemons pretty damn terrible.

The absence of proscribed base sizing for units which overwhelmingly have no official models is infuriating.

Agreed with the person who said that this is an army for 3d printer go brrr though. With only a literal handful of these units represented by official minis (which I think are mostly OOP?), and the general fluff that seems purpose written to dissuade you from running your 40k god-marked daemon minis, going crazy with 3rd party minis seems the only way to go.

The Sovereign Greatblade upgrade feels like a trap, and I'd be tempted by the ranged options (for the basic deamons) if they were free.

beast_gts wrote:
The Sovereign Greatblade upgrade feels like a trap, and I'd be tempted by the ranged options (for the basic deamons) if they were free.

Don't forget that Monstrous sub-typed units ignore Unwieldy.

 Rihgu wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
The Sovereign Greatblade upgrade feels like a trap, and I'd be tempted by the ranged options (for the basic deamons) if they were free.

Don't forget that Monstrous sub-typed units ignore Unwieldy.

A-Ha! Missed that, as it's under Unwieldy rather than Monstrous... (so why give it Unwieldy as it can only by a Monstrous?)

chaos0xomega wrote:
The absence of proscribed base sizing for units which overwhelmingly have no official models is infuriating.

Agreed with the person who said that this is an army for 3d printer go brrr though. With only a literal handful of these units represented by official minis (which I think are mostly OOP?), and the general fluff that seems purpose written to dissuade you from running your 40k god-marked daemon minis, going crazy with 3rd party minis seems the only way to go.

Aint nothing stopping you but yourself.

I'll be gladly using AOS & 40k Slaanesh stuff.

Especially as books have familiar descriptions.

If bl uses bloodletters etc why not players?