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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/04 12:25:27
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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New Valrak rumour video:
New mystery army is Solar Auxilia as expected and it will come with a new boxset.
Rumoured contents are:
Infantry but no specification how many
Either a command squad or a command sentinel? Could be a dual build with the Aethon Sentinel from LI but normal command squad would make way more sense so probably that
Leman Russ variant so likely the SA design version
A heavy transport so probably the Dracosan?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/04 12:31:00
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Matrindur wrote:New Valrak rumour video:
New mystery army is Solar Auxilia as expected and it will come with a new boxset.
Rumoured contents are:
Infantry but no specification how many
Either a command squad or a command sentinel? but normal command squad would make way more sense so probably that
Leman Russ variant so likely the SA design version
A heavy transport so probably the Dracosan?
Command sentinel?
We already got the SA list, is GW expecting us to buy another book?
Dracosan would make sense because SA also got the malcador and it shares the chassis.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/04 12:32:11
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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A dual kit for an Aethon Heavy Sentinel or command sentinel would be cool. Always! (But it could be a PDF or a pamphlet in the box set)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/04 12:34:55
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Not Online!!! wrote: Matrindur wrote:New Valrak rumour video:
New mystery army is Solar Auxilia as expected and it will come with a new boxset.
Rumoured contents are:
Infantry but no specification how many
Either a command squad or a command sentinel? but normal command squad would make way more sense so probably that
Leman Russ variant so likely the SA design version
A heavy transport so probably the Dracosan?
Command sentinel?
We already got the SA list, is GW expecting us to buy another book?
Dracosan would make sense because SA also got the malcador and it shares the chassis.
We are at least going to get the new Aethon Sentinel for sure and that could be a dual kit with a command sentinel but it's likelier someone misunderstood and its just the normal command squad
But if its just a single new kit they will likely just out the rules up in a pdf instead of a new book. If we are getting more than one new kit or the rules for the existing stuff changed then a new book would be possible but I don't think that is likely
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/04 12:42:50
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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They can also update some rules as part of the next campaign book. If the Baneblade gets a SA plastic kit it needs a rules fix to make it viable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/04 12:52:55
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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SA anyways need a massive rework as it stands on the rulesfront. Unless they want everyone to play penal SA.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/04 13:00:37
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Matrindur wrote:New mystery army is Solar Auxilia as expected and it will come with a new boxset.
As in new army box, or a new complete core set w/rulebook and everything?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/04 13:07:06
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Matrindur wrote:New mystery army is Solar Auxilia as expected and it will come with a new boxset.
As in new army box, or a new complete core set w/rulebook and everything?
Very very likely just a normal boxset like the MKIII one
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 13:00:38
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 13:09:45
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Anyone spotted something significant as of yet? Just checked the malcador, if it got on the militia list the independant gunners rule that the normal SA malcador has. Nope..
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/12/05 13:12:12
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 13:21:39
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I’d hope they release the charonite ogryns early on. Hopefully they’re identical to the FW models, as they are some of the coolest models in the range
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 13:25:58
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Posts with Authority
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Ouch, my wallet is gon' suffer, those plastic SA tanks will look glorious next to my plastic DKoK
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 13:31:47
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Not Online!!! wrote:Anyone spotted something significant as of yet?
Just checked the malcador, if it got on the militia list the independant gunners rule that the normal SA malcador has. Nope..
Most significant ones I'm seeing are point drops on the Super heavies and aircraft, and all the legacies UM units got nuked from orbit in either points or rules. Suzerains untouched though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 14:28:04
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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ProfSrlojohn wrote:all the legacies UM units got nuked from orbit in either points or rules. Suzerains untouched though.
Nothing of value was lost. Fulmentarus needed a whack to the back of the knee with the nerf bat, and that's preciselywhat they got. They were a fething joke.
I look forward to hearing the one local WAAC Ultramarine player whinge incessantly about how hard done by he is now.
I'm a bit confused about something though. Under Farith Redloss' profile (Legacies pg45.) they've updated it to say the following.
*Selecting Farith Redloss satisfies the conditions of any Limitation of a Rite of War that requires a Detachment or Army to contain a model with the Legion Siege Breaker Legiones Consularis upgrade.
Now unless i've really misunderstood what they mean here, no current RoW has this specification. So I'm wondering if they've done a touch of future proofing with him for an upcoming campaign book or something.
Otherwise as far as the 1st are concerned, the Firewing Enigmatii dropped 50 pts which is nice, but beside this and Farith, no other changes. I'd have liked to see the Excindio drop some points or clarification on whether it can take two shooting weapons.
But on the other hand, Cenobium and Interemptors remain untouched, so can't complain too much.
Nice to see Nullifactors get the right Str bonus for their maces. Spatha attack bikes are half way usable now with the 2 W/A and a modest points drop. Also nice that Indom Termies got the benefits of PotL.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 15:15:45
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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"You can't put a bayonet on a shrapnel bolter" stood out to me as a random "no fun allowed" ruling.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 16:15:51
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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What a disappointing FAQ as a Knight player. I had hoped they'd at least make an effort to tweak them so they aren't so bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 17:24:18
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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lord_blackfang wrote:"You can't put a bayonet on a shrapnel bolter" stood out to me as a random "no fun allowed" ruling. I do you one better: Seeker with kraken boltguns: chainbajonet or bajonet allowed. Long live mass assault doctrine. AL: replaces kraken boltgun for style with banestrike boltgun on seekers. Bajonet not allowed. Can't even replace the better boltgun with a worse CQC boltgun and slap a bajonet on.... GW literally forces me to powergame Automatically Appended Next Post: em_en_oh_pee wrote:What a disappointing FAQ as a Knight player. I had hoped they'd at least make an effort to tweak them so they aren't so bad. that could be stated by SA and Militia aswell. We could've also finally got the 20-30 pts price increase on contemptors..,
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2023/12/05 17:25:33
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 17:57:45
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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Indomitus Terminators now only gain Line if they are taken as Compulsory in Pride of the Legion now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 17:58:55
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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VictorVonTzeentch wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
em_en_oh_pee wrote:What a disappointing FAQ as a Knight player. I had hoped they'd at least make an effort to tweak them so they aren't so bad.
that could be stated by SA and Militia aswell.
We could've also finally got the 20-30 pts price increase on contemptors..,
Oh... wow. Yeah, they sure didn't even address Contemptors did they? Wow.
We waited how long for a new FAQ/Errata? This is all we get. That does not bode well, especially seeing how invested they are in main 40k adjustments/balance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 19:34:02
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fresh-Faced New User
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VictorVonTzeentch wrote:Indomitus Terminators now only gain Line if they are taken as Compulsory in Pride of the Legion now.
That was true as of the previous errata from ages back was it not?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 19:37:57
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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Xirix wrote: VictorVonTzeentch wrote:Indomitus Terminators now only gain Line if they are taken as Compulsory in Pride of the Legion now.
That was true as of the previous errata from ages back was it not?
No, they all gained Line in the previous errata regardless of if they were the compulsory choices or not. If there wasn't a change this time around it would not be highlighted Magenta.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 21:46:07
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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LH:EC still terrible, but at least they fixed the most egregious rules interactions so the army functions now. Hopefully they'll make significant changes when they come around to reprinting this in the future...
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The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 22:56:01
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Not only that but the 2 character dreads got a 20pt decrease.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/05 23:02:32
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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cody.d. wrote:
Not only that but the 2 character dreads got a 20pt decrease.
welp.
Dreadnought suptype fears nothing it seems.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/06 05:28:46
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Not sure why the missiles of a praetor launcher are centerline but the fixed volcano cannon on the shadowsword is front.
I'm wondering if while we may get some of the SA tanks in plastic like the draconian and malcador, the full size SA baneblade in pictures may be a resin upgrade kit instead of a full plastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/06 08:36:08
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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MajorWesJanson wrote:Not sure why the missiles of a praetor launcher are centerline but the fixed volcano cannon on the shadowsword is front.
I'm wondering if while we may get some of the SA tanks in plastic like the draconian and malcador, the full size SA baneblade in pictures may be a resin upgrade kit instead of a full plastic.
Lotta things wrong with the shadowsword, like it can fire on the move, too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/06 09:24:36
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mr_Rose wrote: MajorWesJanson wrote:Not sure why the missiles of a praetor launcher are centerline but the fixed volcano cannon on the shadowsword is front.
I'm wondering if while we may get some of the SA tanks in plastic like the draconian and malcador, the full size SA baneblade in pictures may be a resin upgrade kit instead of a full plastic.
Lotta things wrong with the shadowsword, like it can fire on the move, too.
I assume that is just a change due to other patterns. Mars pattern had to unlink the drive to power the cannon, but another forgeworld had better capacitors that fit with the stc. Maybe Lucius, or Arkurian, which would explain why the latter version is so widespread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/07 13:01:06
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Alpha Legion Sabotadger
Gun is apparently an Astartes Shotgun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/07 13:06:38
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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He's cool.
Really enjoying these legion specific consuls. Can't wait for the DA Paladin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/07 13:11:43
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Would have been cool to see a Raven Guard one finally.
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